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pin_cushion

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Posted: 10-15-07 02:25am

Hi again,

If I may go off-topic for a minute, I understand that most of us are quite stressed out. So, if I may suggest, I think we should all stop,

take a deep breath,

and relax...
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Posted: 10-15-07 09:28am

doctor gave me paxil in small dose, maybe ill try SSRI's after all
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Posted: 10-15-07 16:09pm

POM82 wrote:
doctor gave me paxil in small dose, maybe ill try SSRI's after all


Are you going to test the other product you purchased first, before you begin on the Paxil?
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Posted: 10-15-07 20:23pm

yup definitly and I hope I get it by this friday cause I got a girl who is waiting for me to bang her , its gonna be a good weekend.
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inTango

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Posted: 10-16-07 14:41pm

healthySex, your logic makes sense and i appreciate that; but then again, along with natural cures they also utilized horses for transportation for 1000s of years, and that hardly makes riding a horse the best choice when you need to get somewhere fast.

i live in a brooklyn neighborhood where most people are severely overweight; now i've been to many gyms, both neighborhood sh*tholes and upscale manhattan health clubs and most people you see at the gym are pretty fit; i know it's tempting to think that they're fit because they workout, diet, whatever, but then how about the people who are just starting out? how come you never see those? the answer is: because most people who are really out of shape rarely manage to get their sh*t together and do something about it!

at this point in life i see myself as a severely obese person who needs something extreme, like liposuction or some crazy diet pill to even start thinking about getting in shape; and it's either that, or pretending i don't really have a problem and big is beautiful (talking metaphorically here, my body fat is 7%).

knowing that i can get it hard if i need to gives me breathing space and can be a life saver; then again, some people are far more inclined to use pills than others, and i'm definitely not chemical shy..
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Brad17

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Posted: 10-17-07 00:34am

HealthySex wrote:
Ok, I wanted to keep this separate because the above post was so long I'm sure many of you would have dazed out. You're looking for cures to PE. Well, I wish I had one. Maybe I do, but since I make do quite well I get complacement with trying cures or sticking to a regimen.

However, I have some things to mention.

Histamine. I've mentioned it before and I'll mention it again as many of you could try and see if it works for you. Histamine levels play a role in orgasm for both men and women. Low levels make it difficult to achieve orgasm, while high levels make it easy.

Firstly, it can be tested so you can go to the doctors and see if your levels are high. I don't think it would necessarily mean that that is your problem, but if it's high it could be a piece of the puzzle. Even if it isn't high, perhaps it could still help. To test you'd need to avoid certain foods for a few days or so, so don't book a doctors appointment and ask him to test then and there. Call and find out what you'd need to do to prepare for the test.

Now, what to do?

One trick I'd like to hear about if people tried is a HOT shower. You might have heard the hot shower remedy for rashes such as poison ivy. The itchiness is caused by histamine being released, so if you use up all of your histamine you can't itch. And hot showers cause your histamine to be released. So if you take a hot shower and release all of your histamine you won't have any to cause itchiness.

So if hot showers release your histamine and histamine causes orgasm and ejaculation, then perhaps a hot shower could release enough histamine to delay your ejaculation. Maybe, I don't know, like I said, I'm complacement sometime in testing things because I do well as it is. However, it'd be interesting to hear people talk about their experiences. And it will help them guage whether the next idea might work for them as well. Just because a hot shower doesn't work, won't necessarily mean the next trick won't work though. However, if the hot shower works then maybe you'd like to try the next trick because you won't have to plan ahead and take hot showers before sex.

Also, don't go burning yourself and be safe. Tell people not to flush the toilet or use the sink if you have really hot water. Take it hot to the point you can bear, but not scalding or causing you to pass out. You might want to cool off with cold water every few minutes too as hot water can increase your internal temperature and cause you too sweat. But if you go hot then cold then hot then cold you can use up your histamine without overheating.

Ok, the next trick is to block the creation of too much histamine. Histamine is created by the amino acid L-Histidine. Another amino acid L-Methionine will block the creation of it, in effect lowering your levels. You can buy L-Methionine in supplement form, be sure to get the L form which is natural. Here's a blurb I found about Histamine and PE.

"Dr. Pfeiffer noted that males who had excessive L-Histidine levels had the problem of premature ejaculation. He gave these men supplementation of 500 mg. of L-Methionine along with 500 mg. of magnesium and 50mg. of vitamin B6. This helped normalize the levels of Histidine, and alleviated the problem of premature ejaculation. Those taking L-Methionine should also take a B complex with folic acid to help prevent excessive homocysteine levels. (Take 2 Montiff B Complete daily - 1 in the morning and 1 in the evening to get sufficient folic acid and B 6.)."

So you should also take the magnesium and a multi-B-Complex vitamin.

How long before you see results? I don't know. But I would take it for at least a month, if not 3 before I decided to guage it's effectiveness or worthlessness. You could take more (at least up to 1000mg) but start slow.


Hey HealthySex your post about histmaine levels caught my attention and was wondering if you had tried lowering your histmine levels via L-Methionine or any other means? I tried doing some research on histmine levels and pe and couldnt really find much. Could you post the link to where you took that quote from? Hope to hear from you soon, thanks.
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HealthySex

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Posted: 10-18-07 14:32pm

Brad17 wrote:


Hey HealthySex your post about histmaine levels caught my attention and was wondering if you had tried lowering your histmine levels via L-Methionine or any other means? I tried doing some research on histmine levels and pe and couldnt really find much. Could you post the link to where you took that quote from? Hope to hear from you soon, thanks.


Sure, here's the link

(edited- you guys can pm the site to each other Smile)

However, that's not where I learned of the connection so there's more info out there. I saved that one because it gave a specific regimen.

I just recently began taking some L-Methionine so it'd be too early to tell as many supplements take time before they really take effect. I keep forgetting to take it too, but I'll keep you posted. I'm not taking the other supplements as I already have multi's that should keep me covered. Otherwise, I would take the magnesium a b-complex and a general multi for good measure.
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Posted: 10-18-07 16:37pm

Hey guys- just a quick note from your mod-

I think all the information sharing and advice going on here is WONDERFUL and I hope you keep up with it....

but could you please refrain from posting links to "buy it here" websites?? I'm not talking anyone in specific, but it's a common trend given the nature of these posts.

You can recommend medications that worked for you, that's just fine. But leave it to the other members to find it and buy it if they want to try it. You can always google things, right?

Strictly informational non advertising links are fine, though.

-Your friendly neighborhood moderator Smile
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HealthySex

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Posted: 10-18-07 16:45pm

That was an informational page for the most part. The product being sold on that page is the exact opposite of what anyone would want to buy for what I mentioned.

L-Histidine would do the opposite of what they want.
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robo98

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Posted: 10-20-07 08:48am

G'day guys

Just over one year ago me and my ex girlfriend had sex for the first time (first time for the both of us). I was extremely horny as I cared for her deeply, I was pounding the absolute crap out of her and could tell it hurt her very much. This happened so quickly but I only messed her for 1 minute or so due to my problem (and also the fact that I didn't have one clue as how long I should be lasting - I completely blocked out that factor). 2-3 months later I had sex with this random chick when her parents went away, I blew within two minutes. I was extremely embarrassed and now this is easily my number one issue in life (ejaculation/having sex). I cop alot of crap from my mates even though they are joking but it shreads me apart in side. I watched a porno a few nights ago and blew after 5 seconds or so. Im 90% sure this is a mental thing (with watching pornography) but still leaves me confused as I feel like I'm the only one out there that suffers this problem. This is a huge issue for me so any feedback on how to prevent this would be much appreciated. I also smoke and aren't fit if that has anything to do with it.

Thanks boys
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Posted: 10-21-07 20:05pm

two words: stud 100, check that out and buy some
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Posted: 10-21-07 21:29pm

HealthySex wrote:
That was an informational page for the most part. The product being sold on that page is the exact opposite of what anyone would want to buy for what I mentioned.

L-Histidine would do the opposite of what they want.



I know, I checked it out. But those are the rules Wink

I appreciate all your info though, don't stop!
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Seajai

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Posted: 10-22-07 16:56pm

POM82 wrote:
two words: stud 100, check that out and buy some


This is no joke... I have this stuff and it is amazing.

But I am purdy tired of PE and having to deal with it, I wanna bang the hell out of my girlfriend for longer than just two minutes. The Stud Spray does awesome and makes you last quite a bit longer, but if you are just having sex with random girls its hard to actually be able to put this stuff on and then stall for 10 minutes while you're waiting for it to absorb. I feel pretty stupid having to go put it on for my girlfriend then tell her she has to wait 10 minutes so this stuff can start working, even though I'm sure shes loving how much longer the sex is lasting.

But as of tomorrow I am getting on an anti depressant and hopefully getting rid of my PE. I have two friends who both got on Lexapro and both of them got complete control over there sex life and could control when they wanted to go.
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Posted: 10-23-07 07:41am

Seajai wrote:
POM82 wrote:
two words: stud 100, check that out and buy some


This is no joke... I have this stuff and it is amazing.

But I am purdy tired of PE and having to deal with it, I wanna bang the hell out of my girlfriend for longer than just two minutes. The Stud Spray does awesome and makes you last quite a bit longer, but if you are just having sex with random girls its hard to actually be able to put this stuff on and then stall for 10 minutes while you're waiting for it to absorb. I feel pretty stupid having to go put it on for my girlfriend then tell her she has to wait 10 minutes so this stuff can start working, even though I'm sure shes loving how much longer the sex is lasting.

But as of tomorrow I am getting on an anti depressant and hopefully getting rid of my PE. I have two friends who both got on Lexapro and both of them got complete control over there sex life and could control when they wanted to go.


thats the problem with the stud spray, the waiting, thats why im really anxious to try out this new prolasta stuff i ordered. it claims you can take it on demand (dont have to take it for a couple months to kick in) and it gives you a window of a couple hours so when you think youre gonna get lucky you take it and youre good to go. im supposed to get it in the mail any day now.
there will be a full report on this once I try it out.
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Posted: 10-23-07 14:39pm

During that 10 minutes you're waiting for it to work you can please her other ways. Even give an orgasm before you've even started.
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Posted: 10-23-07 15:14pm

Yep. In fact, you do that, and it won't even matter what the sex is like... (says the girl)
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Posted: 10-23-07 18:10pm

Thanks Georgia.
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Posted: 10-24-07 02:44am

Hi guys, first post as you can see. I have been lurking for a few months though.I have seen mentioned pc clenches with aguments for and against and just wanted to give some details that helped me. I have been able to get them to work but like any muscles need time to strengthen.

I first read about them in an old issue of men's health magazine about 10 years back and have used it since. Very simple program too. 100 quick clenches, followed by 5 sets of 10 sec holds every day. That was it. Once I built up the strength to hold back orgasm I just did and still do that routine every 3-4 days when I think about it. Takes like 5 minutes.

The trick to making it work during sex is getting as close to point of ejaculation as possible before stopping and clamping down. I have found for me, that if I stop too early I need to keep stopping every few minutes. This is obviously a pain for the woman, but if I get right on the edge to the point of no return then I can go another half hour easily without worrying about stopping. Have no idea why this is but it was an important note of the article. So basically, yes I still do have to stop after the first few minutes for about 10-20 secs but then I'm good to go for the next half hour or more. Just get creative during that first stop and use other methods. The other important point is try keep the pc relaxed the rest of the time during sex because squeezing it during does push you toward orgasm faster. If you strenghten it and use it at the right time it does work.
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Brad17

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Posted: 10-27-07 01:22am

Dazzling wrote:
Hi guys, first post as you can see. I have been lurking for a few months though.I have seen mentioned pc clenches with aguments for and against and just wanted to give some details that helped me. I have been able to get them to work but like any muscles need time to strengthen.

I first read about them in an old issue of men's health magazine about 10 years back and have used it since. Very simple program too. 100 quick clenches, followed by 5 sets of 10 sec holds every day. That was it. Once I built up the strength to hold back orgasm I just did and still do that routine every 3-4 days when I think about it. Takes like 5 minutes.

The trick to making it work during sex is getting as close to point of ejaculation as possible before stopping and clamping down. I have found for me, that if I stop too early I need to keep stopping every few minutes. This is obviously a pain for the woman, but if I get right on the edge to the point of no return then I can go another half hour easily without worrying about stopping. Have no idea why this is but it was an important note of the article. So basically, yes I still do have to stop after the first few minutes for about 10-20 secs but then I'm good to go for the next half hour or more. Just get creative during that first stop and use other methods. The other important point is try keep the pc relaxed the rest of the time during sex because squeezing it during does push you toward orgasm faster. If you strenghten it and use it at the right time it does work.


Hey Dazzling thanks for the input! I was wondering how long did you do the routines before you were able to hold back. Also, when you clench are you holding back orgasm completely or are you only holding back ejacualtion and having a sort of "mini" orgasm. I have been trying pc techniques for a little while now and when i try to clench at the last second usually i still have a smaller less intese orgasm and some ejaculation still comes slowly out.
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Posted: 10-29-07 17:57pm

pin_cushion wrote:
Hi again,

If I may go off-topic for a minute, I understand that most of us are quite stressed out. So, if I may suggest, I think we should all stop,

take a deep breath,

and relax...


Chikong Deep Breathing techniques are actually exceptionally powerful for healing the sex drive, believe it or not.

Try breathing from your abdomen all the way up to your chest and inflate your whole body.

Then breathe out. Do this slowly and repeat 5 times. Notice how much lighter you feel Smile


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