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Posted: 10-02-07 11:34am
POM82
wrote:
Birdie9
wrote:
POM82
wrote:
alright dudes!!
im onto something here and if anyone can
shed some light or relate then please
share you stories if u have any tips as
well
while choking the chicken the other night,
i decided for the first time in my life to
stay completley relaxed and stroke it till
i would feel the urge to ejaculate, whe i
was doing this i relaized that i could go
on for much longer if I didnt flex my pc
muscle at all. I read on this board
before some one saying something about the
pc muscle doing that but I didnt think
that was the case for me but it is.
Fastforward a bit, i start getting "good
feelings" but instead of flexing my pc
muscle and holding them I left it
completly relaxed and I could almost feel
that good feeling travel up my shaft and
out my spout, sensations increased after
this but I was still going at a medium
pace adjusting my stroking to how I felt
to make it last even longer, the came time
for the test, I stroked it till i felt i
was gonna ejaculate and right before I
felt it i squeezed my pc muscle hard a
couple of times until the urge passed and
then continued slowly and repeated the
whole process from square 1, i never had
better sensations in my life by not
squeezing my pc muscle when stroking only
when I couldnt take it anymore. This is
what I will do from now on and im
definilty gonna do this with sex also and
see the results.
cheers
This is what I tried for the past two days
so far and it seems to be working. The PC
muscle is the one kind of in your anus and
when you clench it to make your penis more
erect or am I wrong? But that's not the
point.
I did almost excately what you did with a
few things differently here and there. I
start off at a medium pace just to get it
hard and until I feel like ejaculating. I
was watching porn to help with the
stimulation. The first day when I was
about to ejuculate I completely stopped
stroking it and clenched my PC muscle (I
felt it was more effective if I use both
my leg and let it wrestle each other to
help clench) . After a few seconds I'd
continue stroking. I didn't want to stop
for long because in real sex stopping and
starting would be annoying for your GF.
When i resumed I didn't go medium pace I
went thrust really fast , the thrust
lasted for about 10-30 seconds and I felt
like ejaculating again. I clenched my PC
muscle for about 3 to 5 seconds and
resumed at the same pace.
That went on for about 3 to 4 minutes
until I ejaculated. I was very surprised
at how much longer I lasted. The total
time for that was around 7 minutes , 4 of
which was full thrust (very fast).
Tonight I tried the same method again went
off at a medium to fast pace this time and
I got close to ejaculating after 2-3
minutes. I wasn't really horny at that
time but it doesn't matter because even if
I wasn't horny the usually time I
ejaculate is around that time. Being horny
just makes it shorter!
When I was about to ejaculate I clenched
it and around 1-2 minutes I ejaculated.
But it wasnt a full ejaculation. Some
sperm leaked out which took the
sensitivity level down by a so much. It
was still hard as a rock, now I started to
thrust which lasted for a 5 minutes and
spermed leaked out again. I felt the
sensitivity level go down by a lot so I
thrusted faster (the way you do it when
you want to ejaculate). I didn't care
about lasting long anymore I was so
surprised at how hard I am still. I thrust
non stop and I just could not ejaculate
until finally I ejaculated again. That's 4
times now, it wasn't full ejaculation, its
the type where when your about to
ejaculate but you clench it so only a few
sperm leaks out. After the 4th one I lost
almost all sensitivity but still rock hard
now I just stroke it like I was before but
as fast as I can nonstop cause it was like
10 minutes of nonstop thrusting. I finally
ejacuted fully at the end which was a
small ejaculation cause all my sperm was
gone. It wasn't as satisfying to ejaculate
that late but hell 20 min of masterbating
and 15 minutes of full thrusting it was
insane.
This method you have to stop for about 3-5
seconds every 2 minutes about to clench
your PC muscle and keep your ejaculation
under control. I will play around some and
see how I can improve the feeling and
keeping the time.
After the 3rd ejaculation if I didn't keep
thrusting it and stop touching it I lose
erection and quick. So you need to keep
thrusting which became tiring after a good
10 minutes of doing it.
I also read tito99 post and tried that for
about one week. I just cannot stand the
feeling of stroking your penis slowly .
The feeling is just not the same and when
you finally ejaculate it's not even close
to satisfying. it felt like wow thank god
it's over, felt more like work then
pleasure.
The way I described and POM82 said worked
for me and it was very pleasurable. You
may lose a bit of pleasure (not as much as
slow strokes ) but you last a good 15 or
more minutes. I probably can last longer
but when you start lasting 15 minutes of
thrusting you feel like stopping.
Some more info I want to include about
this is I masterebated when I wasn't very
horny but like I said I've masterbated
when I'm not horny before I would have
never lasted 20 minutes ever! No lube used
(I've never used lube before) just porn
and my hand.
POM82 I have a question for you, you said
you were going to try this on your
girlfriend. Have you and if so how did it
go? I want to test it on a girl but I
dont' have enough confident to do that
yet.
Hope this helped some people, I will post
more if any of you have
questions
no i havent tried it cause me and my girl
split, you guessed it because of PE, not
because se said anything about it but
because I was so sure she was thinking
about how I cat last long that it drove me
crazy and I wasnyt able to be myself
around her, i was very insecure so she
left. now im relying on the stud spray
even though i dont like this method, im
gonna try the extended pleasure condoms
again with a penis ring too.
IM going to the doctors in one week to
tell him about it and to a urologist to
see what they say. If ssri's can help
then thats what ill do
im really fed up of this problem, its
ruining my life or my chance to have a
life. whatever gets rid of it i will
do
Pom - sorry to hear you lost your girl
over this. Hang in there!! I use the
stud spray and it really works, the only
downside being that you kinda need to know
your gonna have sex so you give it time to
dry and start working. 10-15 minutes in my
case. The only other draw back is the loss
of sensitivity so you need to experiment
with how much to spray on. Couple of times
I didnt use enough I it didn't help much,
the other night I used too much and
couldn't cum.
I think you should try this before going
to drugs (SSRs) that really aren't
intended for this problem.
Good luck!
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POM82
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Posted: 10-02-07 11:50am
thanks mike,
the more i read about ssri's and their
effects and withdrawals symptoms the more
i dont want to go that route even if it
makes me last 10 minutes
im gonna do more research
thats the problem with the stud spray, is
you gotta put it on in advance which is a
bummer but if it works then im all for it
ive already experimented with the stuff
and about 4-5 sprays did the trick for me,
i was completley numb, my only worry is
staying hard during sex when i dont feel
anything...
im gonna have to try it and see
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POM82
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Posted: 10-02-07 11:57am
nitro1
wrote:
hi there,
sort of relieved to see that i'm not the
only one out there with this problem.
interestingly i think that alot of it (as
mentioned by another poster) is habitual.
I started masturbating at 14 and always
did it quickly so i could please myself
faster. This effectively became
standardised in my response time to
ejaculation - so by the time i was having
sex with my then girlfriend several years
later I was simply coming quickly out of
force of habit.
i think equally though having a super
sensitive bellend also impacts on it. i
agree totally with another poster who
mentions that after cuming he gets a dont
touch me kind of sensitivity in his
penis.
lots of people mention different methods
to sort this out. I read with interest
about the tensing/relaxing thing.
I wonder has anyone heard of or tried the
'Tarutao' method? I bought the booklet a
few years ago but have never really tried
it out. I dont know if I wasted $40 but it
sounds fairly similar to the kegels
thing.
By the way - whilst not an ideal solution
i think that the trojan and durex
performas are a great fix. I find that i
can go for ages with the durex. but like
some of the others have said there is the
tendancy for your johnson to go to sleep.
the last time i used one i put in a good
performance (about an hour and a bit -
including changing positions etc) but i
found that sometimes when switching or
slowing down i'd have to give myself a
quick wank to get my pecker up to full
stiffness. Still - I'd rather that than
have my sex end about a minute in to it!
ciao.
try a penis ring with the extended
pleasure condoms, someone here said that
it helps keep you stiff
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POM82
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Re: Temp Solution to Pe Posted: 10-02-07 11:58am
PEMAN19
wrote:
THE STORY
ok heres my PE story, my first sexual
encounter was great. i lasted about 3 min
and thought it was my first time no
biggie. i was 20 yo. later that night we
decided to do it again and than my worst
fear happened. she was givin me head for
about 30 sec and i said STOP and than i
came all over. I WAS SO EMBARRASED SO
ASHAMED IT WAS REALLY TRAMATIC. she was
really really cool about it(you really
need a girl to be cool about it or itll
just make it worse) about half hour later
we tried again got the condom on put it
inside and 2 sec BOOM came again THATS IT
I NEVER WANTED TO HAVE SEX AGAIN! I WAS
HORRIFIED BECAME DEPRESSED FOR THE NEXT 3
DAYS DIDNT MASTURBATE OR EVEN GET AN
ERECTION I DIDNT WANT TO. I COULDNT IF I
TRIED BECAUSE IT WAS BOTHERING ME. i
talked to my girl who made me feel 100
times better told her i needed time to
repress that whole experience. after i got
over my depression i began to work(this
was sex something i wanted to do ALL MY
LIFE AND I SUCKED AT IT WELL MY BODY DID I
CANT CONTROL IT FOR whoops SAKE.) I DID
KEGAL, STOP START I AM NOW EVEN TO HAVE
MULTIPLE ORGASMS AND EVEN STOP IT FROM
CUMMIN OUT WEN I ejaculate BUT I STILL
HAVE PE!!!!!
THE
SOULTION
WE TRIED THE TROJAN EXTENDED PLEASURE.
THESE WERE good. i was able to last. it
just numb my gril so there was no point if
no one can feel anything, BUT GET THE
DESESITIZING CREME!! I REPEAT GET THE
DESESITIZING CREME!!GET THE DESESITIZING
CREME!!GET THE DESESITIZING CREME!! this
health question doing it works no
questions asked it works. i am not a doing
it spokesperson for this health question i
am a regular victim of PE put the gel ceme
health question on throw a condom on AND
LAST AS LONG AS YOU WANT, AFTER DOING ALL
THE GODDAMN EXCERISE YOU CAN ACTUALLY
CONTROLL IT WTHT HE CREME /GEL health
question.TRY IT AVOID ALL THE SHAME!! I
LIKE TO REFER TO IT AS TRAING WHEELS AND
EVENTUALLY I WILL BE ABLE TO RIDE THE BIKE
WITHOUT THE CREME. yes it does go numb but
i still feel pleasue it so great i love
that health question and feeling like a
pornstar as i f` ucc kk my girl all
night!!!
what is the desensitizing cream called??
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POM82
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Posted: 10-02-07 12:02pm
langdon
wrote:
the only thing thats worked
for me is some chinese thing called kwang
tze (china brush).
my PE is pretty bad. 5 to 10sec is all it
takes. for example, the first time my girl
went down on me, she sucked twice and i
came. other time, she's grabbed my member
for a handjob and 2/3 strokes is all it
took for me to come. mind you she's
stunning and i think that increases the
arousal. on the other hand if im
masturbating i can make it last 20sec.
even then, im sure we'll agree it's a
problem.
as i said, the only thing thats kept my
relationship going for a year now is kwang
tze. it's a liquid that you apply with
what looks like a cotton ear bud. dries
quickly. the most ive lasted with this is
a couple of hours and 30min of continuous
strokes. and ive only ejaculated after
that because ive wanted to i.e furious
strokes to force myself to ejaculate. as
far as my girlfriend is concerned, she's
happy. she doesn't even know i have PE.
the few times ive come early ive used an
excuse like "you're way too hot" and it's
worked. she's obviously fallen for it
because she's used to seeing me going for
20min+
few drawbacks to this.
1- label says you need to apply it at
least an hour before. i found that this
needs to be done 2hours before. meaning if
you come home and your partner wants
jiggy, you're back to the "you're too hot"
scenario. one winter evening, i picked her
up from work and she caught me by surprise
by undoing my pants and taking it in her
mouth. 5sec later i came. she looked
baffled. i said "you're way too hot, don't
do that"
2- it irritates my member the following
day. badly. so bad i find myself furiously
scratching my shaft all day long. <
this i think can be overcome by washing
your penis straight away with strong soap.
i dont shower until we're done for the
night which is like 40min after we've had
sex.
3- it's not good if you enjoy oral. for me
anyway. ive noticed that now when im
receiving oral, after 5min my penis goes
red and extra sensitive to her tongue. so
sensitive i have to push her away and get
her to finish me off with her hand. <
there has to be a reason for this. why am
i sensitive to her tongue but not her
hand? saliva gotta play a hand in this?
4- when you put it on, it stings like hell
for a good hour so. depending on how much
you use. hence why put it on hours before
rather than 15 min like some website
recommend
so, if you're just after some long lasting
pounding and have the opportunity to apply
this 2 hours before you get jiggy, go for
it.
if it's oral you're after, this might not
be the thing for you.
forgot to add, i bought mine off ebay
simply cos i didnt wana pay the full price
unless i knew it worked. but this is
available in many websites and your high
st chinese herbal place will definitly
stock it.
i tried this stuff before and I went limp
after about 3 minutes of thrusting
couple questions for you:
do you use a rubber with this stuff?
if not do you actually feel something on
your shaft while doing it or is it just
the thought of having sex touching a girl
keeping you horny?
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langdon
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Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 2 Location: ohio,
Posted: 10-02-07 15:19pm
POM82
wrote:
couple questions for you:
do you use a rubber with this stuff?
if not do you actually feel something on
your shaft while doing it or is it just
the thought of having sex touching a girl
keeping you
horny?
no rubber. yes i do feel something but i
suppose not as much as you'd feel without
the stuff. im fortunate to have someone
who really makes me horny and on top of
that she knows how to really turn me on
(moans, sexy wear, positions,etc).
i suppose this then comes down to your
love making and the difference between
having in/out sex and making love.
unfortunately without the stuff i cant
last more than a few seconds so i dont
really know what it feels like. all the
better for me, i dont know what im missing
out on. ignorance is bliss.
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POM82
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Posted: 10-02-07 15:23pm
whatever works!!
cant wait to find what works for me soon,
im really close
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inTango
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Posts: 38
Posted: 10-02-07 23:38pm
2 weeks on sertraline and my libido is
down to zero (or close, you get the
idea);oh, and my apettite is getting there
too;
anyway, for now i'm not too concerned with
PE, since watching porn is just like
watching the NBC news, only less
informative.
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quickdraw
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 15
Posted: 10-04-07 15:30pm
nitro1
wrote:
hi there,
sort of relieved to see that i'm not the
only one out there with this problem.
interestingly i think that alot of it (as
mentioned by another poster) is habitual.
I started masturbating at 14 and always
did it quickly so i could please myself
faster. This effectively became
standardised in my response time to
ejaculation - so by the time i was having
sex with my then girlfriend several years
later I was simply coming quickly out of
force of habit.
i think equally though having a super
sensitive bellend also impacts on it. i
agree totally with another poster who
mentions that after cuming he gets a dont
touch me kind of sensitivity in his
penis.
lots of people mention different methods
to sort this out. I read with interest
about the tensing/relaxing thing.
I wonder has anyone heard of or tried the
'Tarutao' method? I bought the booklet a
few years ago but have never really tried
it out. I dont know if I wasted $40 but it
sounds fairly similar to the kegels
thing.
By the way - whilst not an ideal solution
i think that the trojan and durex
performas are a great fix. I find that i
can go for ages with the durex. but like
some of the others have said there is the
tendancy for your johnson to go to sleep.
the last time i used one i put in a good
performance (about an hour and a bit -
including changing positions etc) but i
found that sometimes when switching or
slowing down i'd have to give myself a
quick wank to get my pecker up to full
stiffness. Still - I'd rather that than
have my sex end about a minute in to it!
I'd be interested to hear about anyone
whose heard of the Tarutao method or tried
it and with what results.
heres the link though (not a great deal of
info - but i think u can see what i'm
talking about)
I purchased this booklet about 3 years ago
and never read it! Ill read it over the
next few nights and ill let you
know.......
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POM82
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Posted: 10-05-07 12:10pm
has anybody ever tried the stud spray with
a condom??
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ThePeMat
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Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 2
Hi. Posted: 10-07-07 17:00pm
Hey everyone am new to the forum
obivously. Like all of you guys here am a
minute-man and I want to improve it to
hour-man.
Im in this new relationship (just started
two days ago.) and I don't want to back
down because I have this problem and when
a moment comes where we face the situation
I can only hope she will understanding and
not leave me.
Im 17 (going into 18 in two months) and
when I masterbate I probably last from
10-20 seconds but, earlier today I tried
doing the relaxation technique and was
able to last around 30 seconds which is a
big deal to me.
Im still a virgin but from past
experiences like a hand job I give in
easily and it's really embaressing. But I
think mentality plays a big part in it for
example, I remember receving* oral and it
took me quite a awhile to feel anything
until I wanted to ejacutlate and I just
blasted off in onlya few moments. I
remeber receiving comments that " Im too
fast even though ruff." But during those
moments I just wanted to ejaculate and do
it again ( with the second time being
longer and more sastisfying.
I used to chronic-masterbate but now am
trying to fight it. ( Does it weaken
you?)
When I masterbate I used to use only two
fingers because it would feel alot better
but nowadays when I wack off I try to use
my whole hand or I just rub around my head
alot. Does It matter the way you
masterbate? I remember when I was younger
my penis was 7 1/2 and now its around 5
something. I tend to be more easily
aroused then before and I feel horrible at
times because I can't control it
sometimes. I remember ejaculating while
making out with my ex but only for a short
while and It was very embaressing for me
and I was glad she didn't notice. I lose
control from hearing women moan, and It's
hard not being aroused even if its not a
sexual one.
I have wet dreams alot, is there a sign to
this? I think I may have weak bladder
since I tend to pee alot and can these
problems equal to having PE. I notice when
I make out with women sometimes that
alittle bit would come out like enough to
make my head sticky ( Is this big
problem?)
I remember hearing how eating certain
foods can help you with this problem (ex.
eating chocolate and bananas.)
Seeing as am a Christian there aren't many
options for me to take when I see some of
the answers some people gave. ( Taking
drugs and whatnot.)
Thank you for reading this and putting in
your answers and input.
Can anyone help?
If this relationship ever turns to be
serious I really want to satisfy both of
us and have a healthy sex
life.(Especially her.)
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soca
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 6 Location: canada
Posted: 10-07-07 18:19pm
pom, I've used the stud spray with a
condom and it works. you just got to find
out how many sprays is right for you and
then do yourself a favour and buy a rubber
penis ring. it'll keep you decently hard
just incase you spray too much.
I find that I have the best control when
my girl is on top. so switch to that
position when you feel like blowing.
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inTango
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Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Posts: 38
Posted: 10-08-07 00:05am
has any of you guys tried bremelanotide?
it hasn't been approved yet, but you can
find it online (don't know if it's the
real thing though, that's what i'm trying
to find out by posting here);
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HealthySex
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Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 414
Posted: 10-08-07 15:06pm
Hi everybody. Good to see the convo is
still going on in this thread.
inTango, I just googled Bremelanotide and
from the quick blurb I read its purpose is
to increase sexual arousal for men and
women. I didn't see any mention of effects
on PE, but rather it's for erectile
dysfunction or impotence.
POM (and everybody), sorry to hear about
your girlfriend. It sort of sounds like
you lost her not because of PE, but
because of your reaction to PE. As in, you
lost confidence, perhaps avoided sex,
didn't feel comfortable around her and
couldn't be happy and involved. Is that
correct, or along the right lines?
I know it's easier said than done, but you
have to stay together mentally and keep
your confidence and self-esteem. Does
tripping in front of people make someone
embarrassed? No, absolutely not. It's not
the tripping that embarrasses someone,
it's how they feel about tripping in front
of people, it's how they feel other people
perceive them, etc.
So how do you maintain self-esteem,
confidence and happiness? Well, it's a
tough question. Everyone is different and
only you can truly find those answers, but
there's many possibilities. One is to
actually look towards increasing your
self-esteem and confidence and happiness
as subjects completely separate from PE.
Books, self-help programs, therapists,
etc. Just because the book doesn't say,
"How to be confident when you have PE?"
doesn't mean it can't help. Because PE may
affect confidence, but it isn't the
essence of confidence. Being bad at
something does not automatically mean you
have to have low self-esteem, just like
being good at something doesn't
automatically mean confidence. Look at
women that are skinny, but won't stop
talking about how many more pounds they
want to lose. Is their weight their
problem? No, it's their perception. So if
you really have problems with confidence
and self-esteem, don't just look at it
from the PE standpoint.
Another thing you can do is talk to your
woman. I know you've done this and I'd
think it probably helped to some degree,
right? Did she reassure you? When she did,
did you actually take it to heart and
believe her? If you didn't accept her
acceptance, then there's really no reason
to ask for it in the first place. I know,
people aren't always honest. Sometimes we
say things to make people feel better.
However, that right there at least tells
you one thing. She wants you too feel
confident. She doesn't want you to feel
bad or embarrassed or shameful. And that
means something, and you should allow even
just that to relieve some of your
worries.
The other thing is to work with what
you've got. We here to give us more to
work with, but in the meantime work with
what you've got. At some point you can't
get more than you've already gotten, so
you have to make do. In order to get to
space we've got to overcome gravity. We
can't turn it off, so we have to work with
what we've got. No one said, "Hey, gravity
won't let us out, so I guess that's it."
Today we have planes, trains and
automobiles. If I want to go to Alaska, I
hop on a plane and several hours later I'm
there. I may not want to sit on a plane
that long, but I have to if I want to get
there, I worked with what we've got. 150
years ago if you wanted to get to the same
location you'd have to go by foot, horse
and wagon. It'd take months. They had to
break and set camp every day and night.
They'd have to fix broken wheels on the
way. Chop down trees for wood. Hunt for
food. Probably spent a lot of time
freezing or sweating. But they got there,
because they worked with what they had.
They didn't sit in New York and say, "I'm
waiting for the plane to be invented and
then I'm going to check out the west
coast."
So what do you have? You've got a lot. You
have a personality, you have a sense of
humor, you have love to give, you've got
compassion, you have ears to listen, you
have a body to hold and cuddle with, etc.
You're someone to love and spend time with
and do things with. You make watching
movies more enjoyable. You make going to
the Cider Mill more than just getting
apple cider. You make someone complete and
much more.
Notice I didn't talk about sex. Why?
Because that's only part of a
relationship. I don't want to assume what
happened in your relationship, but you did
mention you think she left because you
were insecure and couldn't be yourself
around her. Well, look above. Look at all
the things that you do besides sex, and
that's only a fraction of what you provide
in a relationship. So next time you're in
a relationship, work with what you've got.
Provide those things, make her happy, make
her love you with all the things that you
do, say, and provide. And when you do
that, what do you have to be insecure
about.
Sex is not just penises and vaginas
rubbing together until electrical and
chemical signals get sent and create great
physical pleasure. It's more than that,
and women to an even larger extent feel
that. It's about bonding, spending time
together, being close, sharing something
that you don't share with others,
respecting each other, trusting each
other, feeling comfortable with each
other, etc. etc. etc. So even in sex,
you're providing many other things that
make her feel good and make her want to be
with you. You're not just a penis attached
to an object that can thrust.
Start putting some positive thoughts in
your head. Think about the things that you
do provide and that you do and that you
can do. And stop thinking so much about
the negatives. This should help with
confidence and self-esteem.
Now on to the physical aspect of sex.
Remember these few things first. Many
woman do not orgasm at all. Many more
women do not orgasm from penetrative
intercourse. The average woman takes
longer to achieve orgasm than the average
male takes to achieve orgasm.
Whoa, whoa, whoa! The average woman takes
longer to achieve orgasm than the average
male takes? WHAT?!?!!? I guess we're all
screwed. Think of the small percentage of
couples who aren't screwed. The couples
where the woman CAN orgasm AND orgasm from
penetrative intercourse AND orgasm faster
than her man. I guess the rest of the
world is unhappy.
Or maybe not.
We come back to working with what you've
got. Not too mention reiterating that sex
is more than just physical sensation. So
what have you got? You've got hands with
fingers that can move, tickle or grasp
anyway you choose. You've got a mouth that
can speak, moan, kiss, suck, nibble, and
lick. You've got eyes that can display
feelings, seek, and gaze into other's
eyes. You've got a whole body that can
move and slide about. You've got money
that go out and buy some toys, videos,
books, contraptions, creams, gels, lotions
and potions and many other things that can
spice things up. And you've got a brain to
think about how you can use all of the
other stuff you've got, and listen to your
woman's ideas and responses to you, your
touch, and your ideas.
Now I think with all of that, you can give
your woman the physical sensations that
she wants. You can give her orgasms. You
can give her great, slow, long and maybe
even multiple orgasms.
Sooooooooooooooooooooo...it seems you're
capable of doing a lot with what you've
got. You can give her all the good stuff a
relationship gives. You can give her all
of the emotional aspects of sex. AND you
can give her the physical aspects of sex
too. What's missing?
Not much really. It's missing very little,
but your mind is telling you...YOU are
telling you that it's missing a lot. A
woman does not need to be pleased only by
a penis. If she still does, then there's
two things you can do. One, find a new
girl. Two, keep finding cures for PE.
If you're in a relationship, I'd
definitely recommend the book "Coping with
Premature Ejaculation." This is a great
book for couples because it's not just
about how to cure PE, it's how to cope
with it. It's not just for men, but women
as well.
So how are your cures going? Don't really
know, because you can't try them out
right? Well, hopefully some of the above
will give you enough reason to go out and
get a girl. I understand the confidence
issue, I understand the desire to cure it
before getting a girl, but you might not
always be able to do that. Work with what
you've got.
I read earlier you had some success with
something I've mentioned the whole time.
Relaxing those damn PC muscles, right? Way
easier said than done. Relaxing them
definitely increases the amount of time
you can go. The problem is at some point
the physical stimulation seems to kick and
create a reflex and contracts those
muscles without your input.
I guess that's where practice and
exercising them comes in. Practicing
masturbating by hand or rubber vaginas
without contracting those muscles will
probably give you some control. As the
sensations build, you have to concentrate
even more to relax them. Exercising them
is also supposed to allow you to control
them better. They get stronger, but you
should also be learning how to control
them, how to relax them. Learning to relax
separately is another key. Find a body
relaxing program that teaches you how to
relax. They're all over the internet as
they're used with anxiety and such. It's
basically just a series of steps to relax
the body and may include some deep
breathing exercises.
To start you can lie down without any
responsibilities or noises or distractions
to bother you. Just lie with your eyes
closed and relax. Take slow deep breaths
for a couple minutes and breath with your
stomach, not your chest. Your stomach will
move out largely, but don't strain
muscles, just breath deep from the
stomach. After that concentrate on each
muscle one at a time and work your way up,
starting with the toes. Think of your
toes, concentrate on your toe muscles and
tell them to relax. Keep doing that until
you think they're relaxed. Then your feet
as a whole, then calves, knees, thighs,
legs as a whole, pelvic area, stomach,
lower back, middle back, chest, upper
back, shoulders, arms, hands, fingers,
neck, jaw, face muscles, scalp muscles.
Just go through each one relaxing them and
let your body sink into your bed. And let
your whole body stay relaxed. Go through
them again and you might find you can
relax even further.
You could even concentrate on the pelvic
area some more since you're trying to
learn to relax the PC muscles. Go through
them each individually, buttocks, inner
thigh, outer thigh, anal muscles, perineum
area, testicles, penis. Even if you don't
have a muscle there you know how to
control, think about relaxing that area
and do it.
Another way is to go through that same
set, but tense each muscle first. Such as
tensing the toes for 3 seconds, then
relaxing, letting them relax. And work
your way through. Tensing, maybe even
shaking them out, then relaxing, relaxing,
relaxing.
You could probably find an audio program
on the internet to guide you through.
Perhaps a hypnosis relaxation tape or
something. Check download sites.
Then keep doing what you're doing.
Learning more. Trying condoms and
desensitizers if you want.
Also note, penetrative sex doesn't have to
be in and out thrusts really quickly. Men
tend to do that because it feels good to
us and builds us towards ejaculation.
Women may not always like it, or may not
like it until you've gone slow and built
them up. I often find that after long
periods of slow movements I get to a point
where I lose sensitivity, then I can
thrust away without ejaculation building
so quickly. Sometimes slow thrusting
builds me quickly too. Luckily most women
are clitorally inclined, so keeping your
pelvis close and doing practically no
thrusting at all is best. You do circles
or grind so that your padding rubs on her
clitoris. Inside, your penis is getting
minimal stimulation and essentially you're
lasting a long time. If you're penetrating
her for 10 minutes with some slow
movements and concentration on her clit,
but thrusting at the end makes you cum in
30 seconds, did you last 30 seconds or did
you last 10 minutes and 30 seconds?
It's working with what you've got and with
what she's got.
Give her pleasure in other ways first and
even after. How can a woman complain when
she's getting more orgasms than you are?
I have PE. Not as bad as many, and not as
bad as of late (because I use tricks like
minimal thrusting, slow thrusting,
concentrating on staying close on rubbing
her clit, taking it slow, and being
confident because I please her in other
ways).
So does my woman resent me? Does she go
without orgasms? Does she avoid sex or
ignore my advances? Does she get upset
when I cum?
No, it's quite the opposite. She calls me,
she initiates sex, she wakes me up for
sex, she makes plans for when we can meet
or stay the night. When I make noises that
indicates I'm feeling good and building
towards orgasm, does she slow down to make
it last longer? No, she speeds up and
continues what she was doing that put me
into that mode.
The point being that even with PE you can
please a woman. And with tricks, you can
last longer even if you haven't gotten rid
of PE.
I'd also like to note, I'm not in an
emotional relationship. We're not
boyfriend and girlfriend. We don't love
each other. We don't do romantic things.
We're just friends that spend time
together and have sex. So imagine what you
can do, how satisfied and happy your woman
could be if you gave her all those things
I mentioned earlier. All of those
emotional aspects of relationships and
sex.
So work on your confidence, work on your
relaxing, your PC's, your tricks and
desensitizers and whatever you want.
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HealthySex
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 414
Posted: 10-08-07 15:23pm
Ok, I wanted to keep this separate because
the above post was so long I'm sure many
of you would have dazed out. You're
looking for cures to PE. Well, I wish I
had one. Maybe I do, but since I make do
quite well I get complacement with trying
cures or sticking to a regimen.
However, I have some things to mention.
Histamine. I've mentioned it before and
I'll mention it again as many of you could
try and see if it works for you. Histamine
levels play a role in orgasm for both men
and women. Low levels make it difficult to
achieve orgasm, while high levels make it
easy.
Firstly, it can be tested so you can go to
the doctors and see if your levels are
high. I don't think it would necessarily
mean that that is your problem, but if
it's high it could be a piece of the
puzzle. Even if it isn't high, perhaps it
could still help. To test you'd need to
avoid certain foods for a few days or so,
so don't book a doctors appointment and
ask him to test then and there. Call and
find out what you'd need to do to prepare
for the test.
Now, what to do?
One trick I'd like to hear about if people
tried is a HOT shower. You might have
heard the hot shower remedy for rashes
such as poison ivy. The itchiness is
caused by histamine being released, so if
you use up all of your histamine you can't
itch. And hot showers cause your histamine
to be released. So if you take a hot
shower and release all of your histamine
you won't have any to cause itchiness.
So if hot showers release your histamine
and histamine causes orgasm and
ejaculation, then perhaps a hot shower
could release enough histamine to delay
your ejaculation. Maybe, I don't know,
like I said, I'm complacement sometime in
testing things because I do well as it is.
However, it'd be interesting to hear
people talk about their experiences. And
it will help them guage whether the next
idea might work for them as well. Just
because a hot shower doesn't work, won't
necessarily mean the next trick won't work
though. However, if the hot shower works
then maybe you'd like to try the next
trick because you won't have to plan ahead
and take hot showers before sex.
Also, don't go burning yourself and be
safe. Tell people not to flush the toilet
or use the sink if you have really hot
water. Take it hot to the point you can
bear, but not scalding or causing you to
pass out. You might want to cool off with
cold water every few minutes too as hot
water can increase your internal
temperature and cause you too sweat. But
if you go hot then cold then hot then cold
you can use up your histamine without
overheating.
Ok, the next trick is to block the
creation of too much histamine. Histamine
is created by the amino acid L-Histidine.
Another amino acid L-Methionine will block
the creation of it, in effect lowering
your levels. You can buy L-Methionine in
supplement form, be sure to get the L form
which is natural. Here's a blurb I found
about Histamine and PE.
"Dr. Pfeiffer noted that males who had
excessive L-Histidine levels had the
problem of premature ejaculation. He gave
these men supplementation of 500 mg. of
L-Methionine along with 500 mg. of
magnesium and 50mg. of vitamin B6. This
helped normalize the levels of Histidine,
and alleviated the problem of premature
ejaculation. Those taking L-Methionine
should also take a B complex with folic
acid to help prevent excessive
homocysteine levels. (Take 2 Montiff B
Complete daily - 1 in the morning and 1 in
the evening to get sufficient folic acid
and B 6.)."
So you should also take the magnesium and
a multi-B-Complex vitamin.
How long before you see results? I don't
know. But I would take it for at least a
month, if not 3 before I decided to guage
it's effectiveness or worthlessness. You
could take more (at least up to 1000mg)
but start slow.
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inTango
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Posts: 38
Posted: 10-08-07 20:55pm
HealthySex, the difference between
bremelanotide and the other millions of
sexual perfomance enhancers out there is
that this one actually works; the reason
why i mentioned it here is because you
can't really separate PE from ED: just
think about it -if you're done in 30
seconds and can't get it up again, that's
pretty much it for you and you have a good
chance to find a steady girlfriend when
you're in your 60s and don't give a shi*
about sex anymore; however, if you can get
it up again, and again, and again, you'll
eventually be able to get the job done
(plus, there's a good chance you'll last
more every time);
another thing i wanted to talk about is
how ssri kill your sex drive; so basically
you would last longer, if only you could
get it up; and something i've noticed is
that i can get it up using manual
controls, but the software is totally
dead; which means that as soon as you take
your hands off the controls, the disaster
is imminent, cause the autopilot isn't
working.
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POM82
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 137 Location: Canada
Thanks: 1
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Posted: 10-09-07 15:23pm
HealthySex
wrote:
POM (and everybody), sorry to hear about
your girlfriend. It sort of sounds like
you lost her not because of PE, but
because of your reaction to PE. As in, you
lost confidence, perhaps avoided sex,
didn't feel comfortable around her and
couldn't be happy and involved. Is that
correct, or along the right lines?
I know it's easier said than done, but you
have to stay together mentally and keep
your confidence and self-esteem. Does
tripping in front of people make someone
embarrassed? No, absolutely not. It's not
the tripping that embarrasses someone,
it's how they feel about tripping in front
of people, it's how they feel other people
perceive them, etc.
thats exaclty why it didnt work, because
of my insecurities cause of PE, I couldn
shake the feeling that I wasnt man enough
for her and in the end it was all in my
mind. Its difficult to swallow but life
aint fair.
on a diffrent subject, I came across this
site adavancedmedecine.com/pe that says
they have a 95% success rate to cure PE, I
called and they said that they only treat
US residents but I think somebody had done
some undercover work a while ago about
this place. They apparently use SSRI's in
lower doses with folow up visits...?? can
anybody confirm that it was this place.
Healthysex: thanks for the moral pick up,
I know relationships arent all about sex
and its encoraging that you say you do
well even with PE, but I feel like half a
man right now, so before I get back in the
sack with a girl, im gonna have a plan.
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HealthySex
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 414
Posted: 10-09-07 18:13pm
inTango
wrote:
HealthySex, the difference
between bremelanotide and the other
millions of sexual perfomance enhancers
out there is that this one actually works;
the reason why i mentioned it here is
because you can't really separate PE from
ED: just think about it -if you're done in
30 seconds and can't get it up again,
that's pretty much it for you and you have
a good chance to find a steady girlfriend
when you're in your 60s and don't give a
shi* about sex anymore; however, if you
can get it up again, and again, and again,
you'll eventually be able to get the job
done (plus, there's a good chance you'll
last more every time);
another thing i wanted to talk about is
how ssri kill your sex drive; so basically
you would last longer, if only you could
get it up; and something i've noticed is
that i can get it up using manual
controls, but the software is totally
dead; which means that as soon as you take
your hands off the controls, the disaster
is imminent, cause the autopilot isn't
working.
Ok, I see what you're saying. You realize
that the drug is not for PE, but your idea
is to maintain an erection so that PE
doesn't matter because you can keep going
anyway. I wouldn't know, because your
mentioning is the first I've heard of the
medication.
As for SSRI's killing sex drive...
1. You may have to give it more time. I
was on an SSRI (Effexor XR) for other
reasons and it made orgasm difficult to
achieve and lowered my libido at first.
However, after so many weeks I was fairly
back to normal and was able to have sex
without losing erection.
2. You may have to experiment with other
drugs. Different drugs affect people
differently. I was given Paxil at first
and that was too hellish to continue even
after a week. The same goes for side
effects, one drug may take away your
libido and another may leave it untouched.
You'd have to research, talk to your
doctor, and experiment.
3. Lastly, you can learn to put your
arousal more into your mind. It is
already, but when you realize it perhaps
you could control it better. Sure,
physical stimulation can get me erect, but
I get easier and fuller erections without
stimulation. Such as when hearing a woman
moan or from the anticipation of
stimulation. So perhaps try concentrating
on the things that turn you on, rather
than the stimulation. Her body, movements,
breath, moans, etc.
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HealthySex
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 414
Posted: 10-09-07 18:18pm
POM82
wrote:
thats exaclty why it didnt work, because
of my insecurities cause of PE, I couldn
shake the feeling that I wasnt man enough
for her and in the end it was all in my
mind. Its difficult to swallow but life
aint fair.
on a diffrent subject, I came across this
site adavancedmedecine.com/pe that says
they have a 95% success rate to cure PE, I
called and they said that they only treat
US residents but I think somebody had done
some undercover work a while ago about
this place. They apparently use SSRI's in
lower doses with folow up visits...?? can
anybody confirm that it was this place.
Healthysex: thanks for the moral pick up,
I know relationships arent all about sex
and its encoraging that you say you do
well even with PE, but I feel like half a
man right now, so before I get back in the
sack with a girl, im gonna have a
plan.
Yep, that's the site. I was the one that
did the undercover work. Clomipramine is
the drug that they are using. They're very
similar to Boston Medical Group, aside
from BMG has their own clinics. They also
treat ED and I believe they like to treat
the two together whether that's your
problem or not. Perhaps so they can make
more money, or perhaps because it relieves
anxiety, or perhaps because one can often
follow the other.
Ok POM, good luck and work hard, just
don't let life pass you by. Perhaps some
temporary fixes along with dedication
requiring methods will give you enough
confidence to get started.
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POM82
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 137 Location: Canada
Thanks: 1
Thanked:0
Another Pill to Try Posted: 10-10-07 07:32am
I searched for premature ejaculation on
youtube to see what id come up with and I
came across Dr Mchancellor interview. He
is a urologist that has develepoed a pil
for PE. Its called prolasta, I watched
the entire interview which is three parts
and he seemed pretty smart and sure of his
product. He could be just a goiod
salesman but I diont care, If I dont try
it ill never know and anyways it just cost
me 30 bucks for 4 pills. They have to be
taken 15-30 minutes before sex and it
gives you a window of 4 hours in which
they last. The site was nice also.
One more Pill to test
