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September 17th, 2010
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tthyjk wrote:
Update:

I have taken Tramadol about 10 times since I started it. It has worked every single time. I take 100mg and have sex 3-5 hours later. When I feel the slight buzz, I know its ready.

Sometimes it works great and sometimes a little. I ejaculate anywhere from 4-10 mins and once a little longer. If I felt like taking it easy and taking breaks, I could have lasted 30 mins+ on at least 3 occasions.

I will try 150mg soon just to see the effects. I have a feeling it will make me last 20 minutes+ which is something I really dont want, actually. Im THRILLED with 5-10 mins and more if I take it easy.

I used to last 30 seconds to 1 minute tops, no matter what I did. So for me, Tramadol is the cure.

I'll post back with the results of 150mg treatment.


Please do. I tried 150mg once and could not get an erection with any great ease at all.
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replied September 17th, 2010
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Targeted numbing using EMLA
A couple of days ago, mashedpotatoes stated,

"Many sufferers claim to have an oversensitive spot or area on their penis."

This got me thinking: I have always suspected the area where my frenulum meets my glans as an area which might be overly sensitive. I have tried Stud 100, China Brush and EMLA cream at different points in the past, with mixed results - one problem being it reduces pleasure and erection strength, leading to 'pushing' to maintain my erection, and thus yet more premature ejaculation (having said that, I have at times achieved a good delay with these methods). However, what about numbing selected areas of the penis only? Pleasure will still be stimulated on the bulk of the penis, but the 'problem area' will be numbed, possibly completely.

I tried this earlier tonight. It worked spectacularly well, but I must stress I'd had tramadol too, so it's a moot point how conclusive this is. Has anyone else tried this approach? I used EMLA cream. It allows one to target the application much more selectively than the Stud 100 spray, and also does not have that 'surgical' smell.

Anyway, sorry for yet another post from me! But . . . it's another thing to try. I am striving for perfection in this area.
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replied September 18th, 2010
Hi, I am a PE sufferer. Basically I can only last 1 minutes on top. PE is ruining my life. I can not stop thinking about this issue, and I felt alone and helpless for a long time. I felt home when I found this thread, and it is encouraging that so many guys works together trying to figure the solution out.

I tried several ways: Zoloft (only worked for few times at the beginning), reverse Kegel (just have been doing that for few weeks, and will keep doing), and Study 100 (also only worked for few times at the beinning, and it hurts her). Now I am very curious about Tramadol, and wanna give it a shot. But can anyone tell (or PM) me how can I buy the pills without a prescription? I do not wanna to see my doctor, and tell him/her that I wanna test it against PE.

I would be glad to report my progress if I can get the pills.
Thank you very much.
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replied September 19th, 2010
Every man is born with premature ejaculation, so having it is perfectly normal to start with. Controlling ejaculation is something you have to learn just as you had to learn to control your bladder as a child. We get taught to control our bladders but no one teaches us how to control ejaculation.

Do not waste time or money on sprays, vitamins, herbs, dietary supplements or drugs. This is a learning problem and these things will not help you learn to control ejaculation any more than they can help you to learn to speak another language.

There are a lot of high-priced programs advertised online but all you need is an inexpensive little book written by a doctor and sex therapist that has been used successfully for more than 32 years.

It is called "Lasting Longer: The Treatment Program for Premature Ejaculation" by Dr. Sy Silverberg M.D. For more information just google the authors name: Dr. Sy Silverberg M.D.
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replied September 19th, 2010
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I tried 100mg of tramadol the other day and it made me disorientated and walk like I'm drunk but it worked for the PE in a solo session a treat. in what was me thinking I was knocking the first one out I actually couldn't cum, and normally I last just seconds. Haven't tried it in sex yet.

so now I've found 2 options that seem to work for me. Control sex pills (to stay hard) and tramadol (for condom sex).

control pills being the healthy option that doesn't make me disorientated but I really need to find a way to make it from the ingredients myself just incase they go bust one day.

I've discovered these tools after trying MANY things with little success.

with the tramadol its bearing in mind I am already on 3 medications already before it
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replied September 19th, 2010
Modern Lover,
I am only just beginning to skim the surface in terms of researching information on this disorder. I plan to collect data on personal opinions posted on forums such as these before attempting to submit a proposal to conduct controlled research.
Tramadol actually seems like it may be very effective in treating PE. It is an interesting drug because in addition to having mild pain-killing effects similar to those of other opioid agonists, it also affects levels of serotonin in the brain like SSRIs that have been prescribed off-label to treat PE.
The big setback seems to be the fact that the drug must be taken several hours before intercourse. Ideally, a drug that is effective and has few side effects will be developed that can work instantly.
Trying almost every variation of treatment (be it legal or illegal) available over the years, I have found that about 7.5 mg of hydrocodone ingested only several minutes prior to intercourse, is ideal. As someone who experienced problems lasting longer then 2 minutes, with the help a small dosage of this I can now delay my ejaculation as long as i please. The problem with this particular drug is that it is considered a narcotic with potential for abuse.
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replied September 20th, 2010
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mashedpotatoes wrote:
Modern Lover,
I am only just beginning to skim the surface in terms of researching information on this disorder. I plan to collect data on personal opinions posted on forums such as these before attempting to submit a proposal to conduct controlled research.
Tramadol actually seems like it may be very effective in treating PE. It is an interesting drug because in addition to having mild pain-killing effects similar to those of other opioid agonists, it also affects levels of serotonin in the brain like SSRIs that have been prescribed off-label to treat PE.
The big setback seems to be the fact that the drug must be taken several hours before intercourse. Ideally, a drug that is effective and has few side effects will be developed that can work instantly.
Trying almost every variation of treatment (be it legal or illegal) available over the years, I have found that about 7.5 mg of hydrocodone ingested only several minutes prior to intercourse, is ideal. As someone who experienced problems lasting longer then 2 minutes, with the help a small dosage of this I can now delay my ejaculation as long as i please. The problem with this particular drug is that it is considered a narcotic with potential for abuse.


Yes, that's one very difficult drug to get hold of. So hard that I don't consider it an option for me. Regarding tramadol's time-delay: I suppose it depends on one's circumstances. I am married and know when I'm likely to be having sex. A quicker-acting alternative would be preferable of course, all the same.
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replied September 20th, 2010
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okay guys, I know I tried to this last year regarding an actual PE forum, but who would be seriously be interested in helping me create a forum where we can organize all this great information in this thread? This thread is probably the best PE thread in all of the web. But I don't think new visitors would want to sip through 132 pages (even though it's worth it). Anyone with any knowledge of running a forum or the like? I would really love to create a forum to organize this great information here. Thanks!
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replied September 21st, 2010
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L-man

I was willing to help last year and I still am. Even a better organized version of this board would be more helpful to PE sufferers and an entire forum without limitations from ehealth is a great idea.

I don't have any forum running experience but have played around with creating one using the free site forumotion.
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replied September 21st, 2010
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nonut4pe, great maybe we can exchange emails and see how to get this done. I'll be honest, I really don't read all the posts on here as some of it really goes over my head. But I do know there are basically 2 categories when it comes curing PE:

1) Relaxation Methods
2) Medication/pills

We probably need people who are well in tuned with these subjects to talk in depth. I'd like to really make a real forum with a real URL where people can google search it and find it. Let's do this people!
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replied September 22nd, 2010
lotus_man & nonut4pe:
I'm willing to help out in any way that i can.


As an update from me; I just got back from my doctor. He prescribed me Zoloft.
I told him about Tramadol, but he wants me to try Zoloft first. So I'm giving Zoloft a chance for the next 28 days, and if they don't work, I'm pretty sure I'm getting a prescription for Tramadol 50mg.
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replied September 23rd, 2010
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Wow, helpful post Bro. Thanks for popping in.

Scary looking http link too, anybody brave enough to click that one it looks like all your problems will be solved.
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replied September 23rd, 2010
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everyone, nonut4pe and I are thinking of starting a forum, people with interest please pm us and you can contribute!
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replied September 23rd, 2010
I am on Cymbalta antidepressant and I have the exact opposite problem. Maybe you should ask your doctor for a smaller dose, I am on 60 mg/day. It may take a month or more to work. If it doesn't maybe you will feel better about your situation. Good Luck
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replied September 23rd, 2010
Hey Lotus,

If you guys decide not to start the forum, I would be willing to start one. I do online stuff for a living, so it shouldn't be too hard to set it up!
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replied September 23rd, 2010
I think this is an great idea. This subject does not get enough attention!
Pharmaceutical companies are making billions off of erectile dysfunction pills like viagra but research is extremely limited and cures are nonexistent when it comes to P.E.

There are 5,400,000 results for erectile dysfunction in Google
There are almost half as much (2,500,000) for P.E.

There are about 7,000,000 results in yahoo for P.E.!
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replied September 24th, 2010
mashedpotatoes wrote:
I think this is an great idea. This subject does not get enough attention!
Pharmaceutical companies are making billions off of erectile dysfunction pills like viagra but research is extremely limited and cures are nonexistent when it comes to P.E.

There are 5,400,000 results for erectile dysfunction in Google
There are almost half as much (2,500,000) for P.E.

There are about 7,000,000 results in yahoo for P.E.!


Tramadol is VERY close to the cure. Like I have been reporting, I've been taking 100mg of it 3-5 hours before sex and it has tripled to quadrupled ejaculation time. I experimented with 150mg the other day and it was even better! 20 minutes + to ejaculate.

Researchers need to take Tramadol and tweak it to be faster instead of 3-5 hours later.

No doubt about it, Tramadol almost cures PE. I have tried every single thing, including SSRI'S, Viagra, natural crap, numbing creams, numbing sprays, etc. and nothing worked at all for me.

100mg-150mg of Tramadol works incredibly.
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replied September 26th, 2010
Re: Targeted numbing using EMLA
ModernLover wrote:
A couple of days ago, mashedpotatoes stated,

"Many sufferers claim to have an oversensitive spot or area on their penis."

This got me thinking: I have always suspected the area where my frenulum meets my glans as an area which might be overly sensitive. I have tried Stud 100, China Brush and EMLA cream at different points in the past, with mixed results - one problem being it reduces pleasure and erection strength, leading to 'pushing' to maintain my erection, and thus yet more premature ejaculation (having said that, I have at times achieved a good delay with these methods). However, what about numbing selected areas of the penis only? Pleasure will still be stimulated on the bulk of the penis, but the 'problem area' will be numbed, possibly completely.

I tried this earlier tonight. It worked spectacularly well, but I must stress I'd had tramadol too, so it's a moot point how conclusive this is. Has anyone else tried this approach? I used EMLA cream. It allows one to target the application much more selectively than the Stud 100 spray, and also does not have that 'surgical' smell.

Anyway, sorry for yet another post from me! But . . . it's another thing to try. I am striving for perfection in this area.


I have never tried the Emla cream but I do use Stud100 and/or lidocaine spray I purchased from an online pharmacy - much better to carry in your luggage when going abroad than a Stud 100 !!
I use 4-5 sprays just on the head (and particularly underneath), leave for around 5 minutes and then wash off. I find this gets rid of any surface coating but it still does it's job. I have only ever used sprays because I am subject to random drugs tests at work and would be worried that Tram or something similar would get picked up and I would end up losing my job.

Brad
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replied September 26th, 2010
tthyjk - I like your post about Tramadol and having read the information on this thread and on the Yahoo forum its seems like you may be right; Tramadol is almost the cure for a large number of people in the 30sec-1 minute bracket.

For people like me, Im not sure though - I am still in the process of trying to get ahold of Tramadol but my PE is much more severe, usually on entry or within 10 seconds.

I was wondering if there was any one on the forum who has taken tramadol for this level of PE and met with success. Being totally honest even lasting 1 minute would be a massive encouragement for me and my ailing gf. Thanks in advance, and I agree with the forum idea and would be happy to help in whatever way is helpful - pm me!
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replied September 26th, 2010
I've been working on a forum with my company for the last 6 months. It will be released soon.
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