Good questions, I know I have quick
reflexes and I have Pe, but I still think
there is a way to learn to control it, the
more I practice the start-stop technique
even just by myself, the more I beleive
the mind can control it. But numbing
creams IMO are crap , they take away the
pleasure but I f can use them and still
enjoy sex, go for it.
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johnmarcus66
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Posted: 03-20-07 20:49pm
i bumped on a site where it briefly
describe 7 different treatments available
for premature ejaculation, from exercises
to hypnosis, i found it interesting.
the website is http://www.treatprematu
reejaculation.net
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NYC216
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I'm liking the new site. Has anyone tried
climinax before? I'm tempted to try it. I
just don't want to waste my money again on
something that doesn't work. Also i think
the stop and start technique would take
effect to premature ejaculation and your
brain will get use to lasting longer. Has
anyone been cured through that technique?
I tried it , but it doesn't seem to work,
i guess i gotta keep trying. My PE is so
bad that if someone had a gun to my head
and said " medical question this girl for
more than a minute you live and if not you
die" I'll think i'll die. Any new advice
guys?...thanks
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HealthySex
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Posted: 03-21-07 13:12pm
There's no harm in trying it NYC. The
ingredients are meant to increase your
serotonin, calm you down, or help the
other ingredients work. It's always
possible it might work for you.
However, I think the site is nothing more
than an advertisement for Climinax. They
have a paragraph for each treatment and
nothing more. The only treatment they go
into any detail about is Climinax. But
just because they're good marketers
doesn't mean they're product won't work
for you.
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MikeH90
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Hello All Posted: 03-21-07 15:06pm
Man it is nice (well not really since we
have this condition) to see that I am not
alone with my problem.
I have suffered from PE since I can
remember. I think it comes from
masturbating quickly as a young teenage
and finishing before getting caught. Well,
thats my theory anyway.
I have only been with a few women in my
lifetime and I think PE was the main
reason for this. It is very humiliating
and embarssing!
My first marriage ended and bad sex was
one of the causes. To her it was my
problem and I had to fix it.
I am now married again and when we first
met I was very nervous as to what would
happen when we started getting sexually
active. At first I was lasting much longer
than in all my previous relationships but
lately it has been getting worse. When I
masturbate I can last for quite awhile but
with my wife it is maybe 1 to 2 minutes if
she uses her hand and when we have
intercourse I continually have to pull out
after 3 or 4 thrusts. Forget oral, I cum
as soon as her mouth touches me.
I have been researching the internet more
and more and the only thing that I have
concluded is that there is no cure. I
bought Alan Ritz book and I am returning
it. what a joke.
Now I am reading that the PC and kegel
exercises are either supposed to help or
not, clenching vs relaxation. I have found
that clenching (like stopping urine flow)
brings me to climax sooner. The same goes
for the squeeze technique. I've tried to
pinch every area that has been supposed to
help. It just makes it happen sooner.
The only thing I have tried that has
worked was condoms that are designed for
PE, a desensitising lubricate of some
sort. It worked like a charm, almost to
good. We screwed for 10 minutes and she
was exhausted and sore and I was still not
able to cum. We ended up taking off the
condom and she used her hand, I barely
felt it, she then went to oral and I
finally I was able to finish.
You'd think this was a good thing,
however, she does not like the feel of the
condom, she likes it natural. I am being
to think maybe I should try wearing the
condom, getting desensitized and then take
it off and then start our sex session. I'd
have to play around with how long to wear
it so I wasn't totally desensitized like
before. But let me tell you I was in
heaven and felt like a stud that I lasted
that long.
I'll report back in a couple of days.
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POM82
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Posted: 03-21-07 15:12pm
Careful if u take the condom off cause you
might desensitize her also.
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MandM
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Posted: 03-21-07 18:03pm
MikeH90
I agree with POM about that
performax condom. That stuff inside them
is very gelly/lotiony, and I don't think
that all of it absorbs into the skin. So
it would probably rub off on her and
desensitize her.
I find it sort of different that at
first with your second wife, you were
lasting longer and then it got worse. I
wonder if there is a little bit of
Pyschological PE in your case. I think you
may benefit from the book "Coping with
Premature Ejaculation" You could look on
Overstock.com or Amazon, they have it for
like $10. It may help you target your own
personal situation and give you a push in
the right direction.
If you find that you are liking
desensiters, you may want to try a spray
or something else that absorbs quickly
into the skin. Sometimes my situation is
wierd. Sometimes the desensiters do not
work good enough, and I burst early, and
then sometimes they work too good and like
you side you tire your partner out and you
need hand or oral stimulation. I also
think it has to do with how long you've
gone between having sex. I get much more
excited if I haven't had intercourse in
awhile; masterbation doesn't seem to
affect excidiness for sex.
Has anyone ever heard of non-biased
opinions of Climax? If it really worked so
well, wouldn't that stuff be all over the
place? I am a very skeptical person. I
wonder how well it would work minus the
placebo effect. It just seems to me if
there was something that worked very well,
it would be plastered all over the place
with real unbiased opinions. Same as pills
that promise to expand your penis. If
there was a real pill that really gave you
an extra couple of inches, wouldnt that
stuff be in the water supply by now?
I've seen a few interesting things in
Maxim magazine. I can't remember the names
off the top of my head, but they all claim
to increase stamina, performance, etc.
Risk free, free 90-day supply. It all just
seems too good to be true. I'm just a
really hard person to sell. We should all
just bite the bullet and try a different
one each and report the results.
Glad to see the discussion has kept going.
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MikeH90
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Guys Posted: 03-22-07 07:26am
Thanks for the incite regarding
desensitizing her. Never thought of that.
I have one condom left and think I may
still try it and see if it works for me
and then if it is successful look into the
sprays (if it effects her as well).
I totally agree with you on being
skepical, I don't know how many times I've
gotten to the 'submit' button to purchase
one of these miracle pills and then hit
cancelled. I think that having an
unbasised forum like this really helps. Do
these company's really think that we're
buying into their websites with all their
success stories? I try to find the
ingredients to their products and see
exactly what they are putting into it.
From what I've been able to surmise is
that serotonin (spelling?) is one of the
keys here. Most articles and such always
mention that you need a lot of this in
your system to reduce the adreneline
(again spelling?). However, I haven't
been able to find any type of supplement
or herbal remedy that can actually prove
it can raise the level. I'm sure that
there are some foods that help raise it
but again, haven't found anything
specific. Any thoughts on the whole
Serotonin theory?
I did an experiment on the way to work
this morning. Now don't freak out on me
guys, I'm getting desperate here...
My commute is just over 1 hour long and
all on the expressway. I leave at 5 am and
the roads are virtually empty and its dark
- so I began rubbing myself through my
pants and got it nice and hard. I
continued to just massage myself and keep
it hard, not really getting to excited or
coming close to ejaculation. I focused on
what it felt like when I clenched my PC
muscles and when I relaxed them and found
it interesting that when I clenched them
my dick got harder and more sensitive as
opposed to when I relaxed them. Now I know
this was just a very quick and unformal
experiment but I am beginning to think
that maybe the whole kegel excersizes are
not fully explained, maybe we do need to
focus on the relaxation part too. It was
more difficult to keep them relaxed then
clenched and maybe by doing more kegels to
strengthen the muscles it will aid in
keeping them relaxed.
I tried to focus on tightening my abs with
almost a pushing down effort. Kinda of
like trying to take a crap. I was only
able to hold that for a few seconds
because it was almost impossible to
breathe and I found myself holding my
breath while keeping them relaxed.
Now I think I will this experiment again
each morning on the way to work. On the
way home I will start doing the kegel
exercises.
Has anyone had any success using
desensitizing sprays? which ones work?
I think between sprays and relaxation
techniques I may be able to get better.
I'll keep ya all posted.
I'd like to hear what everyone else is
doing, any one else experimenting with
stuff, kinda of like what helps and what
doesnt?
m
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Additional Thought Posted: 03-22-07 07:50am
forgot to mention this...
Mandm you said " find it sort of different
that at first with your second wife, you
were lasting longer and then it got worse.
I wonder if there is a little bit of
pyschological pe in your case."
I am starting to think that this may be my
case. I am very healthy with no medical
conditions. It is strange though that it
just seems so easy, your dick is to
sensitive to touch, make a pill and fix
it. It can't be that hard can it? We can
send men to the moon for petes sake.
I have pretty much suffered with this
since I can remember. 12 or 13 years old,
experimenting with the neighborhood boys I
was always the first to finish. Highschool
was the same, although I was only with a
couple of girls.
I was very surprised that with my second
wife it wasn't as bad as it normally was.
I also think that how often you have sex
plays a role. I can usually last a lot
longer if we go 3 or 4 nights in a row.
Lately its been maybe once a week.
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quickie
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Re: Who Has Sever Pe? I Know I Do. Posted: 03-22-07 07:57am
NYC216, I've been there. I'm just like you
when I'm 22. Now I'm 31, and things get
better over the years. I've tried all
kinds of things: stop and start technique,
wearing two condoms, antidepressant. They
all worked to some extend, but still, from
time to time, I will perform real bad in
sex, like cuming in less than a minute,
especially if I haven't had it for a
while. This really angers off my woman,
and over the years bad feelings builds up
and it's hurting our relationship. I'm
going to try to get some help from a
urologist again. My advice to you is: try
to fix the problem as early in your life
as possible.
NYC216
wrote:
It's so severe that i can't
even get it in without cuming. Meaning
everytime i'm with a girl and it's about
to go down I end up cuming in my pants 90%
of the time. It's so embaressing. And when
i masturbate on my own I cum less than
2min. It's been like this since i been
sexually active. I am 22yr old now.
I have no problem getting women or
laid. But I have been celibate for awhile
do to my problems cause it's so
embaressing and i get so depressed. I miss
having a girl so much. PE is so depressing
and i want it to end so i can be able to
satisfy women and enjoy sex. I have tried
kegals and techniques , but nothing seems
to work. My next step is aiming towards
some kind of SSRI's cause i heard they
work. If there is anyone out there that
can help me or have some kind of technique
to follow that will work i would really
appreaciate it...thanks
P.S. Is anyone as bad as
me?
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POM82
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Posted: 03-22-07 07:59am
MandM, thats a good idea about each trying
one, I have tried a couple over the years,
one called detainX- supposed to raise
serotonin levels, it must be taken for a
couple months before it works. I was
taking it daily but I didnt have a
girlfirend back then so I couldnt test it.
Cant say if it works or not
Once tried a desensitizer called chinese
brush, found in most sex shops. I must
have applied way too much because I went
limp during sex cause I couldnt feel
anything. that sucked
Tried MSPF (Male sexual performance
formula) this didnt work either, their
claim was if you took about 5 of them 30
minutes before sex you could ladt 20
minutes, yeah right didnt help
xoxdvd.com the little blue herbal pill-
This is the only thing that ever worked
for me, its not a PE pill but when I tried
this I went on for about 10 minutes and
had to take off the condom to finish off.
Sexshop ran out of them and they never got
more.
Right now im trying Last longer 3, this is
a serotonin booster and ive been taking it
for a week and im testing it out tonight,
im very optimistic about this one because
I could feel it effect me.
Also have Stud100 desensitizer but never
used it because im afraid to go limp like
with the first one.
So ive bought alot stuff as you can see,
ill let you guys know if last longer
works.
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MikeH90
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Posted: 03-22-07 08:10am
are most of you guys in here single?
married? steady GF?
I'm asking because for those of us who
have a wife or a steady partner how
involved are they in helping you deal with
this?
My first wife thought it was my problem
and I needed to deal with it on my own.
She had no interest in helping and
basically said I sucked in bed.
My second wife and I haven't really
discussed it formally. Its more like me
taking her hand off me and pulling it up
to my chest saying "I don't want to cum
yet" or pulling out of her after 3 or 4
thrusts. This by the way, the stop start
technique, is BS, it is so disruptive.
When I do cum I usually muttered a sorry
in her ear. She always says its ok but I
can't help but feel that eventually she
start feeling like the 1st wife and get
fed up with it.
It such an embarrassing subject though, I
really am uncomfortable talking about it
with anyone in person. Its very easy to
sit here and type this out to strangers.
Lately she hasn't been in the mood for
sex, we used to have it 3 or 4 times a
week, now its down to maybe once a week.
She says its because she's tired and feels
fat (she has put on a few pounds) but I
wonder if the PE isn't also factoring into
it too.
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quickie
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Re: Hello All Posted: 03-22-07 08:10am
Hey Mike, can you give us some more
details about the condom designed for PE.
What is the brand and where do you get it.
I want to give it try.
Although my woman likes it natural as
well, it's still better than cuming in
less than 1-2 minutes.
MikeH90
wrote:
The only thing I have tried that has
worked was condoms that are designed for
PE, a desensitising lubricate of some
sort. It worked like a charm, almost to
good. We screwed for 10 minutes and she
was exhausted and sore and I was still not
able to cum. We ended up taking off the
condom and she used her hand, I barely
felt it, she then went to oral and I
finally I was able to finish.
You'd think this was a good thing,
however, she does not like the feel of the
condom, she likes it natural. I am being
to think maybe I should try wearing the
condom, getting desensitized and then take
it off and then start our sex session. I'd
have to play around with how long to wear
it so I wasn't totally desensitized like
before. But let me tell you I was in
heaven and felt like a stud that I lasted
that long.
I'll report back in a couple of
days.
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MikeH90
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Posted: 03-22-07 08:19am
"Hey mike, can you give us some more
details about the condom designed for pe.
What is the brand and where do you get it.
I want to give it try. "
Well I looked at it last night and of
course I forgot the name. It is
definitely a Trogan though. Climax control
was in the name I believe. I am going to
their website in a couple of
minutes....I'll report back.
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quickie
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Posted: 03-22-07 08:24am
I have a wife for 6 years now. She really
supported me a lot in the past, like
constantly encourages me and goes to a
urologist with me. I was doing a lot
better over the years, but if we don't do
it for a while, say a week, then I will
cum in less than a minute. It really sucks
and I can feel er disappointment.
Another problem is: foreplay is very
important for women, but I can last longer
if I do less foreplay. Also, I last longer
if my wife just lay there and let me do
all the moves. If she moves, I can cum
right away. So I can see over the years
she's getting less and less interested in
sex, and I started to think it's unfair
for her to stuck with me for life.
I know my problem is both physical and
mental. I decided to visit a urologist
again, and try to fix this problem, and
save my marriage.
MikeH90
wrote:
are most of you guys in here
single? married? steady GF?
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MikeH90
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Posted: 03-22-07 08:29am
I use foreplay to get her going so by the
time I penetrate she is very cloes to
climaxing, that way we still cum together.
But usually our foreplay is me getting
her ready and I have to pull her hand away
so I don't cum while she plays with it.
She has amazing technique and it drives me
crazy that I can't lay there and enjoy a
good 5 minute hand job.
quickie
wrote:
I have a wife for 6 years
now. She really supported me a lot in the
past, like constantly encourages me and
goes to a urologist with me. I was doing a
lot better over the years, but if we don't
do it for a while, say a week, then I will
cum in less than a minute. It really sucks
and I can feel er disappointment.
Another problem is: foreplay is very
important for women, but I can last longer
if I do less foreplay. Also, I last longer
if my wife just lay there and let me do
all the moves. If she moves, I can cum
right away. So I can see over the years
she's getting less and less interested in
sex, and I started to think it's unfair
for her to stuck with me for life.
I know my problem is both physical and
mental. I decided to visit a urologist
again, and try to fix this problem, and
save my marriage.
MikeH90
wrote:
are most of you guys in here
single? married? steady GF?
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Trogan Condoms That Help Posted: 03-22-07 08:46am
MikeH90
wrote:
"Hey mike, can you give us
some more details about the condom
designed for pe. What is the brand and
where do you get it. I want to give it
try. "
Well I looked at it last night and of
course I forgot the name. It is
definitely a Trogan though. Climax control
was in the name I believe. I am going to
their website in a couple of
minutes....I'll report
back.
from the Trogan website:
TROJAN® Extended Pleasure™ have a
special lubricant that helps to control
climax and prolong lasting lovemaking.
Climax Control Lubricant-Clear odorless
lubricant with special additive to help
prevent premature ejaculation and help
provide greater staying power
Made from Premium Quality Latex To help
reduce the risk
Special Reservoir End-For extra safety
Each condom is electronically Tested-To
help ensure reliability
YOU CAN ORDER A FREE SAMPLE TOO!!
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Re: Trogan Condoms That Help Posted: 03-22-07 08:55am
Each condom is electronically Tested-To
help ensure reliability
HAHA LOL, what a bunch of BS. I used
these and they only made things worse, it
was like having sex with a 60 year old
hooker whos been used and abused all her
life, I couldnt feel caca and lost the
feeling.
But youve got nothing to lose by trying
them. Doesnt mean that they wont work for
you. Maybe you have a greater resistance
to the lube.
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MikeH90
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I noticed there is a post and 75 people
have reviewed it but nobody replied to the
posting. Just curious if anyone bought and
downloaded the book?
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MandM
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Posted: 03-22-07 18:28pm
So if PE was a result of a serotonin
problem, wouldn't we all be very
depressed? Are all of you seriously
depressed, in general? I've dealt with a
good amount of depression during my life,
but honestly, the last couple of years
have been very good. I was always on the
impression that if your serotonin levels
were low, then you'd be very depressed.
This makes me think that inhibitied
ejaculation is just a side effect of
SSRIs, rather then low serotonin levels
being the cause of PE.
When you clentch your muscle, your penis
firms up and gives a big salute. I think
clenching your penis forces more blood
into it, which is why it firms up. This is
another problem, relaxing is supposed to
help, but your penis doesn't seem to be as
firm.
Mike H; I've been using desensitizers for
a while. I've been using Stud spray. A
couple of sprays will numb you and soak
into your skin. This is good because it
won't rub off on your partner.
I think frequency of sex definately plays
a role in lasting. I am engaged, but we
are not living together until we get
married. We both still live at home, so
sometimes we can go a couple of weeks w/o
sex. I know that the party ends much
sooner, and I am much more excited if we
haven't done it in awhile.
The desensitzer thing is an art. Like you
said, if you put too much on, then you go
lymp, not enough and it doesn't work. When
we used to have sex more frequently, I
used to have her jerk me off first(I would
hold her hand while she did this so I
could control the pace). And then I would
pleasure her, and then it would lead to
sex. This way, I had a much longer staying
power the second time and she was
extremely excited by the time penetration
came around. This was working great when
we had the time for it. I know I can get
erect pretty quickly after coming. Have
you guys tried this method. Maybe letting
your partner give you a hand, then
pleasure her for a little while, and then
be ready for round two and much longer
staying power.
POM- I see you've tried a lot. I've been
hesitate to start with any more herbal
products. I started taking Bloood pressure
medication and have been worried that it
would cause an interaction. Did any of the
ones you've taken claim a full refund
guarentee? I know the ones in Maximum
magazine have been claiming this. Maybe I
should bite the bullet on one of them and
try it. Take one for the team. I wish I
could come across something that worked. I
would tell everyone, but once again, if
there was something that worked, wouldn't
it have been all over the place?
My fiance has been very very supportive.
She is a great girl. But she always walks
away pleased. I don't let the first
let-down end the party. I keep it going,
and most of the time she has her
orgasim(s). I love watching a girl cum,
that's always my goal, not myself, but I
always do anyway.
Durex has a condom called Performax,
that's the one I have used before.
I also agree about the foreplay thing. The
longer the foreplay, the less I last. I
start rubbing myself against her and she
starts grabbing. I always have to push her
hand away from my penis. She want's to
grab and rub me, but sensitivity doesn't
allow me. I would cum in my pants if I let
her grab and rub. That's very frustrating.
But I think that if there was very little
foreplay, I would last a bit longer, but
then she wouldn't be ready. Even if she
wants to give me a quicky handjob or
something. I get very uneasy and can't
relax because I get the feeling that I'm
going to cum right away. Is it a viscous
cycle?
Is there anyone here who previously didn't
have any form of PE and acquired it at a
later time? I was pondering if someone
could describe how sensations felt before
the PE set in. I am so intrigued with the
sensation part of PE. When the sensitive
area at the tip, below the head is
caressed it creates an urge to cum. When
this area is dulled, then the urge to cum
is delayed. But to counteract this, if you
go to round 2, the urge to cum is delayed,
but the sensitive area does not feel
sensitive anymore (even though you didn't
manually dull this area). This has me
baffled.
