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Posted: 04-12-07 14:28pm

could it be because I put it on when I was hard?
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Posted: 04-12-07 14:33pm

POM82 wrote:
could it be because I put it on when I was hard?


the time before last night i used 2 squirts and was semi hard and maintained my erection. I don't think being hard or flaccid would have an impact on it. Maybe try 1 short squirt and wipe it off a bit. You'll have to experiment with it I guess. that would be a pain too like you said, not spontaneous enough if you had to keep experimenting with what worked best. All I know is that it was within a couple of minutes that I could tell I was numb so it works fairly quickly once applied. So even if the wife surprised me and wanted it right then, I would just squirt and then get into the foreplay and let it take its course.
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Posted: 04-12-07 16:13pm

Stud spray is not the only one out there. There are also creams. Some use Benzocaine and others use Lidocaine. So POM if you really want to give the numbing agents a try, experiment a little. It could be that one chemical works better for you. It could be that a cream would be better, because you could be more specific about the places you put it.

Also, there's the option of using something to improve your erections as well. Herbal viagra type stuff or creams to get hard. Wouldn't know if any work though.

Most likely you just rely too much on the sensation to create the erection. Makes sense right, we all do to some extent. But really, the brain is probably the best at creating erections. Ever have a day where you wanted to masturbate so you started to stimulate your penis, but it just wasn't coming up? Ever have a woman constantly stimulate your penis, but your penis was just not interested in getting erect? I have, and it wasn't because my penis was numb. I told the girl to stop touching my penis and to run her fingers around the area, with no direct penile contact. Why? Because the stimulation wasn't creating the erection, the thought of stimulation was. Her hand being so close, but not touching got me hard.

Similar thing when getting a handjob, blowjob or sex and I'm hard, but not that 100% rock hard that I am when I'm really horny. Then I'll look in her eye, or she'll breathe in my ear, give a little moan, or say something sexy and then voila, I get rock hard. So even though I was being stimulated and it felt good, my mind wasn't being stimulated.

Try now to get an erection without touch. You don't think about getting hard. You don't think about sending blood into your penis. You think about things that turn you on. So perhaps, while you're having sex you need to pay attention to those things that turn you on. Watch her face enjoy it, listen to her breathing, or watch her breasts, feel her ass, whatever gets you going. And if you have to add something like dirty or sexy talk, that's fine too.

MikeH, why do you think it is that you're able to maintain erections with the Stud spray? Is it because you can still feel it enough, or because you're horny, or what?
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Posted: 04-12-07 20:17pm

hey mike,

i just recieved my spray and it seem to work. It was a pain in the ass to get it open at first, but i got it. I'm just a little confuse cause the glan is sensitive all around and i had to spray like 4 times to get all around the glans cause if you just do one area then the other will be sensitive, but if u numb all i think it's better right? its a small bottle and 4 sprays every time i use it seems alot and will probley run out quick. I wish it came in a cream instead. it will be easier to put all around. I don't think it's nessecery to put on the shaft cause the shaft has nothing to do with sensitivity. It's all in the glans. What do u think?
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Posted: 04-13-07 06:43am

HealthySex wrote:


MikeH, why do you think it is that you're able to maintain erections with the Stud spray? Is it because you can still feel it enough, or because you're horny, or what?


not sure, I guess because I can still feel it enough. I just spray directly on my two most sensitive areas not my whole penis.
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Posted: 04-13-07 06:51am

NYC216 wrote:
hey mike,

i just recieved my spray and it seem to work. It was a pain in the ass to get it open at first, but i got it. I'm just a little confuse cause the glan is sensitive all around and i had to spray like 4 times to get all around the glans cause if you just do one area then the other will be sensitive, but if u numb all i think it's better right? its a small bottle and 4 sprays every time i use it seems alot and will probley run out quick. I wish it came in a cream instead. it will be easier to put all around. I don't think it's nessecery to put on the shaft cause the shaft has nothing to do with sensitivity. It's all in the glans. What do u think?


LOL - I had a hard time opening it as well. I just leave the lid open now so I can quickly spray and get down to business.

I think sensitivity is different for all guys, not only the location but the degree. Thats why some things work for some guys and not others. My head is not sensitive all the way around like yours, one spot (the underside or the side pointing away from me) is more sensitive then the rest. My most sensitive spot however, is on my shaft, the underside right below where the head meets. So I just do a short quick spray right on that area which also gets some on the area on the head where it needs it.

I have never looked into creams, this spray was the first thing I tried and it seems to work. Maybe you could do some research on the creams and try one and let us all know.
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Posted: 04-13-07 10:41am

Thanks mike....also should I wait a few moments to get into action once i spray or does it work immediatley and i can get into action right away...what do u recommend? i can't really tell.
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Posted: 04-13-07 10:54am

NYC216 wrote:
Thanks mike....also should I wait a few moments to get into action once i spray or does it work immediatley and i can get into action right away...what do u recommend? i can't really tell.


well like I posted earlier, I have sprayed it on when I was erect and another time when I was flaccid and was able to maintain my erection throughout the whole time.

When I did it in the flaccid state I was in the bathroom. I sprayed it on, threw some tissue in the trash, turned off the light and got into bed. We talked for about 1 minute before we turned off the lights and got busy. It was already numb and semi hard (anticipation of what was to come) when she started rubbing me there and I then got a full erection. It works (for me) pretty fast, within a couple of minutes after I spray it on.
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Posted: 04-13-07 12:29pm

well like I said in previous posts a while back, the XOX pills that worked for me a while ago were not availabale anymore but I finally got a hold of the company by email and she told me to contact their canadian distibutor which is right here in my city:) pretty good for friday the 13th.

So I went to buy some and gonna try it out soon, hope itll have the same effects as the other time. if it does their is some ingredient in here that does the trick for me. update again when i have more news from the front
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Re: Update On My Situation
Posted: 04-13-07 12:56pm

POM82 wrote:
well like I said in previous posts a while back, the XOX pills that worked for me a while ago were not availabale anymore but I finally got a hold of the company by email and she told me to contact their canadian distibutor which is right here in my city:) pretty good for friday the 13th.

So I went to buy some and gonna try it out soon, hope itll have the same effects as the other time. if it does their is some ingredient in here that does the trick for me. update again when i have more news from the front


thanks for the update! Good luck!!!
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Posted: 04-13-07 14:04pm

MikeH90 wrote:

DO NOT buy that stupid book - Guaranteed multiple... waste of time and a very hard read, the author needs to take english classes. I agree with HealthSex, a couple of pages dedicated to what the book claims to do and it does not help PE issues. Go with the other recommended book.


Thanks mate Smile

I have ordered the original recommendation (Coping with.....) hopefully it will give me some good ideas.

I will let you know how it all goes.

The Stud spray sounds very good and I am glad it is working for alot of people here. I may even buy some myself soon but I would love to find the ultimate cure so I don't have to plan in advance (don't we all!)
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Posted: 04-13-07 14:17pm

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MikeH90 wrote:



The Stud spray sounds very good and I am glad it is working for alot of people here. I may even buy some myself soon but I would love to find the ultimate cure so I don't have to plan in advance (don't we all!)


Well for me it works within a minute or so of spraying so there really isn't any planning in advance to do. Just spray and hop into bed and start with the foreplay.
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Posted: 04-16-07 10:14am

well , the xox didnt work on saturday, took it 1 hour before and i didnt last longer than usual, but im gonna keep trying.

It was really dissapointing but she came so at least she was satisfied, gonna keep at it.
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Posted: 04-16-07 10:19am

POM82 wrote:
well , the xox didnt work on saturday, took it 1 hour before and i didnt last longer than usual, but im gonna keep trying.

It was really dissapointing but she came so at least she was satisfied, gonna keep at it.


bummer!

We had a full house of kids so no sex this weekend, plus she caught a cold so doubt we'll be getting some tonight either. Sad
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Posted: 04-19-07 11:01am

NYC216 wrote:
hey mike,

i just recieved my spray and it seem to work. It was a pain in the ass to get it open at first, but i got it. I'm just a little confuse cause the glan is sensitive all around and i had to spray like 4 times to get all around the glans cause if you just do one area then the other will be sensitive, but if u numb all i think it's better right? its a small bottle and 4 sprays every time i use it seems alot and will probley run out quick. I wish it came in a cream instead. it will be easier to put all around. I don't think it's nessecery to put on the shaft cause the shaft has nothing to do with sensitivity. It's all in the glans. What do u think?


There are other brands that do come in cream form. I'm not sure which chemical Stud uses, but they're usually Benzocaine or Lidocaine. One might work better for you, I don't really know. Eitherway, if you think Stud works well for you, you could try to find another brand in cream form that has the same chemical and same strength.
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Posted: 04-23-07 10:23am

just a comment about the stop start method. i had tried using this method to make myself last longer, but my girlfriend doesnt like it. she claims it causes her to lose feeling and she prefers me to just keep on going even if im gonna cum quickly from it. she'd rather the continued sensation rather than the stop start.

anyhow, im not sure i have a severe pe problem but id definitely like to last longer.i can usually last between 3 and 10 minutes unless its been a while since I have last ejaculated, then its a lot faster. however, i often have the ability to retain the erection, put on a new condom and keep going for a second round, which lasts longer. the more sex i have the longer it lasts. for example last week i had sex several times in a few hours and i was lasting as long as i wanted and i had to work really hard the last time to be able to ejaculate.
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sexyjacksonite

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Posted: 04-26-07 23:00pm

Hey buddy,
im facig the same problem. I havent had sex till now but in an intimately close ecounter with my gal, we dint have sex, but i came in my pants. Itwas very bad. Though, i have discovered that i can stay erect even after ejaculation. At least this was the case 3 months back. I dont think abt this much bcos PE sucks. At ths time, try penis rings. That wont help cure PE but it mite help maintaining an erection so u can satuisfy her even if u come. Im as desperate as u r. Though i dont blv in this climinax stuff as i ordered one stayerect band. MotherF******* sell that rubber band for $19 and its not even worth 19 cents. But have you heard about this site http://www .yogapranayama.com/swamiramdevmedicines.ht m
This is actually an Indian saint. His exercises have helped many tremendously in Inidia incuding my family members. I had caled them and they suggested that i try ther meds which are herbal and yogas. Its expensive though $225 for meds worth 3 months and regular yoga. I will get the yoga DVD in a week but will try meds after i get married cos they are so costly. i donno if they will work or not, i may just go for it cos in India these meds are proven. If this doesnt work the last thing wud be SSRi antidepressents. But i wud avoid starting with thse cos they may have serious side effects. Hey buddy do email me at sex yjacksonite@yahoo.com. Ill sart those exercises in like 2 weeks. If i beneft ill let u know. Plz let me know if you try something different
One last thing. people caca abt this being a psycological issue, its not cos u dont even get time to think. Its an issue with ur hormones and ssri does make sense. Be careful with kegel exercises cos some experts say that its meant for women and the problem may worsen for men if they practice it.
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Posted: 04-26-07 23:13pm

NYC216 wrote:
Hey Mike,

I just bought a bottle of that stud 100. We'll see how it goes. Im goi g to use that and use viagra. So once i cum, i'm laready good to go for the next round. I don't want to cum and not get hard again due to the numbing...that would suck. Can't wait to get mine. I bought from www.stud100.com it's actually cheaper than the site u gave me. thanks for the recommending it.


Hows that working for you. Just let me know. Im starting running in different directions. Ill let u know if i find something good for permanent solution
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Posted: 04-27-07 21:48pm

Depression is a major problem and therefore the side effects are viewed to be acceptable. However, pe is not really a "major" problem. Sure, we know that it can ruin confidence, sex lives, etc. But otherwise not a major health problem. Therefore, the fda doesn't seem to consider the side effects vs. The problem it is treating acceptable. If it had the same side effects, but treated cancer i'm sure it would be approved. Risk vs. Benefits.

Thank you for your comments. I believe you are writing this in terms of the FDA?? I would venture to say that PE can cause severely deep levels of depression. In every way just as serious of an issue.

Newer studies are proving SSRI's are in fact safer than once thought. At this point, people pop Prozac when they get a headache so with the mild side effects reported from Dopexatine studies I'm feeling like there is something else going on.

I'm interested to know if anyone else has had real success with an SSRI? And if so, which?
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HealthySex

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Posted: 04-28-07 09:06am

I agree that PE is a problem and could indeed cause depression, in which case I'd guess you might be prescribed an SSRI for that. Yes, I was writing it in terms of the FDA as it is sort of the gist of what I had read about a PE drug early on in my research. It commented on the Risks Vs. Benefits not being suitable.

I've never read anything about the believed safety of SSRI's increasing, but if it's true, that's great. I'd still be weary as they may have long term risks, AND the whole system is rather messed up. The FDA is meant to protect us, the doctors are meant to help us, and the drug companies are meant to cure us. Yet, the drug companies are out to make money (nothing wrong with that), they treat symptoms as opposed to offering cures. The FDA is practically ran by the pharmaceutical companies, talk about a conflict of interest. And the doctors are taught by the pharmaceutical companies in that studies which teach doctors are conducted by pharmaceutical companies, medical schools are funded by them, doctors are paid to prescribe their drugs, and drug companies go around showing doctors how to "treat" the diseases their drugs affect.

If you want to try an SSRI, talk to your doctor about as he's probably prescribed them before for PE. Maybe a sex therapist may know which ones work the best. You could also google which ones are traditionally used. There are companies that do nothing but treat PE and ED, such as Boston Medical Group and another mentioned on this site before which was nearly identical to BMG, except that it didn't have it's own clinics to attend. When someone brought it up, I called the company and asked questions to find what they prescribed. Their site says it's a drug for PE, yet there is no drug for PE. However, when I called I found it was nothing more than Clomipramine (sp?) an anti-depressant. Usually, when a-d's are prescribed it's in lower doses and also sometimes just used as a pre-performance drug. They were doing something like that, with an initial daily dose to get it into the system. After 6 months you should be able to stop because of their guidance and the drug. How? I don't know, perhaps they train you with the drug and you're supposed to ween off without losing results. The price however is substantial with a monthly cost higher than what it would cost for 6 months of the same drug prescribed by your doctor. The question is, what's the dosage and what guidance and support do they offer.

I was on an SSRI (Effexor) before. Not for PE, but for anxiety resulting from a long lasting, stressful, health problem. It definitely helps PE, perhaps too much. It causes anorgasmia, the inability to ejaculate or reach orgasm. After awhile though, it becomes easier to achieve. Side effects were nearly none, but withdrawal effects were horrible. (Do it slow and with the help of a book if you do). It wasn't until after I came off the drug that I had a problem with PE though. Probably from having to find new techniques to achieve orgasm, such as through strong, constant contractions of the pelvic muscles.
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