Can you please send me some of those dream
pills. I really want them.
Thank you.
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HealthySex
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Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 414
Posted: 04-06-07 20:21pm
lotus_man
wrote:
yes i mean pushing the pc muscle up into
the body or squeezing if you will.
to the second question, i have no idea,
lol. when i feel like i'm about to cum, i
could just squeeze the pc muscle and i
could get a few more strokes. then its
just goes downward from there. for
example when i first feel like cumming,
squeeze, maybe i can get in another 5-7
strokes before i feel like cumming again,
then squeeze, okay next time maybe just
4-6 strokes and so on until every stroke
is unbearable i must bust. haha. i'm not
doctor so i really can't give an
explanation.
Ok, so you're just adding a little more
time near the end. But, are you
maintaining a relaxed PC through out
intercourse to last longer? What I mean
is, if you were to contract your PC the
entire time or throughout intercourse
would you be brought to orgasm faster?
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HealthySex
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 414
Posted: 04-06-07 20:30pm
I've read the book. I think it has some
good advice towards sexual health, may
help people with ED naturally, but it has
very little info on resolving PE. It's
only a very small section and deals solely
with Serotonin and Adrenaline. So
essentially, nothing more than taking
5-HTP for a short time, or protein which
contains the amino acid Tryptophan to lead
to 5-htp. Oh yeah, and also keeping the PC
relaxed. There might be some herbs listed
that could help to. Otherwise, if I were
buying a book for PE, this definitely
would not be the one I'd buy.
The book's title guaranteeing Multiple
Orgasms is a little funny too. It relies
on flexing a muscle in the tailbone area,
yet it's covered in 3-4 pages. Very little
info on how to use it during sex. I've
tried it through masturbation and it does
provide strong sensations, but how to
separate it from ejaculation I'm not sure.
I haven't been able to dedicate much time
to this area.
The author also goes into his treatment of
dating, women, etc. It sometimes seems
rude and sexist, but either way rather
unneeded. You'll find more info on
choosing silk sheets and rubber vaginas
than you will on PE and Multiple Orgasms.
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quickdraw
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 15
Posted: 04-07-07 06:58am
HealthySex
wrote:
I've read the book. I think
it has some good advice towards sexual
health, may help people with ED naturally,
but it has very little info on resolving
PE. It's only a very small section and
deals solely with Serotonin and
Adrenaline. So essentially, nothing more
than taking 5-HTP for a short time, or
protein which contains the amino acid
Tryptophan to lead to 5-htp. Oh yeah, and
also keeping the PC relaxed. There might
be some herbs listed that could help to.
Otherwise, if I were buying a book for PE,
this definitely would not be the one I'd
buy.
The book's title guaranteeing Multiple
Orgasms is a little funny too. It relies
on flexing a muscle in the tailbone area,
yet it's covered in 3-4 pages. Very little
info on how to use it during sex. I've
tried it through masturbation and it does
provide strong sensations, but how to
separate it from ejaculation I'm not sure.
I haven't been able to dedicate much time
to this area.
The author also goes into his treatment of
dating, women, etc. It sometimes seems
rude and sexist, but either way rather
unneeded. You'll find more info on
choosing silk sheets and rubber vaginas
than you will on PE and Multiple
Orgasms.
Top man Luckily I haven't
purchased it yet (No point over the Easter
BH in England!)
So if you recommend the first book, I
might buy that instead.
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zigg
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Posts: 13
Posted: 04-07-07 09:00am
I just wish I could get up to date info on
Dapoxetine from the FDA. On the net, the
topics disappeared sort of like a fart in
the wind.
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HealthySex
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 414
Posted: 04-07-07 15:48pm
quickdraw
wrote:
Top man Luckily I haven't
purchased it yet (No point over the Easter
BH in England!)
So if you recommend the first book, I
might buy that
instead.
I haven't read the first book myself, but
someone on here has and says it would
probably be helpful. I think it'd be a
good book because it covers different
types of PE, helps you pinpoint yours, and
then treatment options for your type. I'm
busy elsewhere, so although I do the
occasional experiment with PE and come in
here and talk, it's not my current
project.
"The impact premature ejaculation can have
on men and their partners can be
devastating for a relationship and,
currently, there are no truly optimal
therapies for PE," says Jon L. Pryor,
M.D., chairman and program director of the
Department of Urologic Surgery at the
University of Minnesota and lead
investigator of the dapoxetine phase III
clinical trials. "The results with
dapoxetine are compelling. They
demonstrate that, for the first time, a
medicine can be taken by men on an
on-demand basis and provide significant
improvement in their PE condition. The
unique profile of dapoxetine translated
into targeted treatment of PE compared to
existing therapies. There are meaningful
improvements in this study across all
primary and secondary endpoints, including
a three-to-four fold increase in IELT."
Found this article to be interesting,
thought someone else might too.
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JD33
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 4
Posted: 04-07-07 20:18pm
Good find Zigg. Hopefully they approve the
drug soon so we can all get our hands on
it.
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zigg
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Posts: 13
Posted: 04-07-07 20:23pm
Well, news about the drug has all but
vanished since it was declined by the FDA
in October 2006 I believe. But I know the
company ALZA still has very high hopes for
the drug. May be a couple of years
(hopefully) but I have a very strong
feeling that we will see this drug
eventually.
Another spray called TEMPE (like Stud100)
mentioned above is also yet to be released
but apparently helps individuals last 2.4
times longer. I've never thought about
getting a spray but there just may be some
benefit until the "miracle pill" hits. I
mean really, what does ALZA have to do to
convince the FDA...?
You have to wonder what politics are being
played. When this stuff hits it will be
huge.
I originally saw an ad in Maxim magazine,
which made me very skeptical. But since
it's a topical cream that's supposed
alleviate penile senesitivity, I thought
it might something to look into.
On the bottom, it said "Remember that no
product is for everyone. If you are taking
drugs that require a prescription to
regulate blood
pressure or to control cardiac conditions,
ask your doctor if VIVAXA™ is right for
you. "
I take blood pressure medication, so I am
hesitant to try it. But something about it
is alluring.
Take a look, let me know what you all
think
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zigg
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Posts: 13
Posted: 04-09-07 21:06pm
What's alluring is the woman in the red
bra in the flash movie up top
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MandM
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 50
Posted: 04-09-07 21:11pm
haha, Yea I guess so... With a girl like
that, when the first guy finishes, she
probably has another one lined up behind
him.
"The impact premature ejaculation can have
on men and their partners can be
devastating for a relationship and,
currently, there are no truly optimal
therapies for PE," says Jon L. Pryor,
M.D., chairman and program director of the
Department of Urologic Surgery at the
University of Minnesota and lead
investigator of the dapoxetine phase III
clinical trials. "The results with
dapoxetine are compelling. They
demonstrate that, for the first time, a
medicine can be taken by men on an
on-demand basis and provide significant
improvement in their PE condition. The
unique profile of dapoxetine translated
into targeted treatment of PE compared to
existing therapies. There are meaningful
improvements in this study across all
primary and secondary endpoints, including
a three-to-four fold increase in IELT."
Found this article to be interesting,
thought someone else might
too.
I believe the reason the drug is not being
approved is because it is just a modified
or different type of anti-depressant.
Their aim was to get the effects on PE
from anti-depressants but hopefully make
the side effects fewer. Problem is
anti-depressants are really some of the
worst drugs out there and may cause long
term problems as well.
Depression is a major problem and
therefore the side effects are viewed to
be acceptable. However, PE is not really a
"major" problem. Sure, we know that it can
ruin confidence, sex lives, etc. but
otherwise not a major health problem.
Therefore, the FDA doesn't seem to
consider the side effects vs. the problem
it is treating acceptable. If it had the
same side effects, but treated cancer I'm
sure it would be approved. Risk vs.
Benefits.
So I guess in the FDA's view, it is better
for doctors to prescribe an
anti-depressant for something it is not
approved for...than it is to approve a
drug specifically for that problem with
fewer but similar side effects.
Or maybe it really does have some major
side effect that makes it worse than
current anti-depressants.
I originally saw an ad in Maxim magazine,
which made me very skeptical. But since
it's a topical cream that's supposed
alleviate penile senesitivity, I thought
it might something to look into.
On the bottom, it said "Remember that no
product is for everyone. If you are taking
drugs that require a prescription to
regulate blood
pressure or to control cardiac conditions,
ask your doctor if VIVAXA™ is right for
you. "
I take blood pressure medication, so I am
hesitant to try it. But something about it
is alluring.
Take a look, let me know what you all
think
I saw that in a commercial and mentioned
in this thread before. I haven't tried it
though, so can't comment on it. The aspect
that seemed appealing is that it claims
not to desensitize the penis like Stud
sprays and such do. It also has an
ingredient to help with erections.
Probably the ingredient they use in
Maxoderm, their flagship product. Maxoderm
is for erections and erection quality,
however when it first appeared on the
market it was sold as a penis
enlargement/erection lotion. Now they've
cut down on claims, probably because
they've become successful and don't want
to get in trouble.
I liked the idea of it because it's not a
desensitizer and it's external (because I
can't experiment with too many internal
things for now). What I'd like to know
about (besides if its effectiveness) is
does it need to be used pre-performance.
The website says to use it several days a
week and before performance. Best results
would be attained after a few months of
use. So, after 3 months of use would you
last longer even if you did not use it
before a performance? If so, that's great
because then you can be spontaneous and
don't need to know when you're having sex.
And of course, you don't have to say,
"Hold on honey, let's wait another 30
minutes. I've got to do something."
Might be worth a try. Should we assign
different products to different members
and get a broad spectrum test? Haha. If we
did, it might not be ideal as we'd then
label a product useless, but really it was
just useless for that one test subject. My
roommate is moving out in a few weeks so
I'll have more alone time and probably
more sex so maybe I should give this one a
try. Seems too much of a band aid though.
A pill may have to be taken forever, just
like this cream. However, if the pill aims
at the root of the problem I'd rather take
that. This cream definitely doesn't aim at
the root, only a symptom. What's the damn
root?
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MikeH90
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Posted: 04-12-07 09:39am
quickdraw
wrote:
HealthySex
wrote:
I've read the book. I think
it has some good advice towards sexual
health, may help people with ED naturally,
but it has very little info on resolving
PE. It's only a very small section and
deals solely with Serotonin and
Adrenaline. So essentially, nothing more
than taking 5-HTP for a short time, or
protein which contains the amino acid
Tryptophan to lead to 5-htp. Oh yeah, and
also keeping the PC relaxed. There might
be some herbs listed that could help to.
Otherwise, if I were buying a book for PE,
this definitely would not be the one I'd
buy.
The book's title guaranteeing Multiple
Orgasms is a little funny too. It relies
on flexing a muscle in the tailbone area,
yet it's covered in 3-4 pages. Very little
info on how to use it during sex. I've
tried it through masturbation and it does
provide strong sensations, but how to
separate it from ejaculation I'm not sure.
I haven't been able to dedicate much time
to this area.
The author also goes into his treatment of
dating, women, etc. It sometimes seems
rude and sexist, but either way rather
unneeded. You'll find more info on
choosing silk sheets and rubber vaginas
than you will on PE and Multiple
Orgasms.
Top man Luckily I haven't
purchased it yet (No point over the Easter
BH in England!)
So if you recommend the first book, I
might buy that
instead.
DO NOT buy that stupid book - Guaranteed
multiple... waste of time and a very hard
read, the author needs to take english
classes. I agree with HealthSex, a couple
of pages dedicated to what the book claims
to do and it does not help PE issues. Go
with the other recommended book.
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MikeH90
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Mar 2007 Posts: 328 Location: , Illinois USA
I originally saw an ad in Maxim magazine,
which made me very skeptical. But since
it's a topical cream that's supposed
alleviate penile senesitivity, I thought
it might something to look into.
On the bottom, it said "Remember that no
product is for everyone. If you are taking
drugs that require a prescription to
regulate blood
pressure or to control cardiac conditions,
ask your doctor if VIVAXA™ is right for
you. "
I take blood pressure medication, so I am
hesitant to try it. But something about it
is alluring.
Take a look, let me know what you all
think
I saw that in a commercial and mentioned
in this thread before. I haven't tried it
though, so can't comment on it. The aspect
that seemed appealing is that it claims
not to desensitize the penis like Stud
sprays and such do. It also has an
ingredient to help with erections.
Probably the ingredient they use in
Maxoderm, their flagship product. Maxoderm
is for erections and erection quality,
however when it first appeared on the
market it was sold as a penis
enlargement/erection lotion. Now they've
cut down on claims, probably because
they've become successful and don't want
to get in trouble.
I liked the idea of it because it's not a
desensitizer and it's external (because I
can't experiment with too many internal
things for now). What I'd like to know
about (besides if its effectiveness) is
does it need to be used pre-performance.
The website says to use it several days a
week and before performance. Best results
would be attained after a few months of
use. So, after 3 months of use would you
last longer even if you did not use it
before a performance? If so, that's great
because then you can be spontaneous and
don't need to know when you're having sex.
And of course, you don't have to say,
"Hold on honey, let's wait another 30
minutes. I've got to do something."
Might be worth a try. Should we assign
different products to different members
and get a broad spectrum test? Haha. If we
did, it might not be ideal as we'd then
label a product useless, but really it was
just useless for that one test subject. My
roommate is moving out in a few weeks so
I'll have more alone time and probably
more sex so maybe I should give this one a
try. Seems too much of a band aid though.
A pill may have to be taken forever, just
like this cream. However, if the pill aims
at the root of the problem I'd rather take
that. This cream definitely doesn't aim at
the root, only a symptom. What's the damn
root?
I'd shy away from something I'd have to
take 30 minutes before having sex. The
Stud spray worked again for me last night.
I have been out of town the past week,
(did you all miss me?) and got back last
night. Wife and I got ready for bed
(shower, brush teeth etc) and after wife
left bathroom and went into bedroom I
finished up flossing teeth and then used
the spray, turned off the light and hopped
into bed. We got going within 3 or 4
minutes. I was able to get hard and
maintain while we banged. I lasted longer
than her again. This time I was able to
feel more of my orgasm than that first
time I used the spray (see previous posts
regarding that)
This spray works for me. Hope you find the
same results.
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POM82
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Posted: 04-12-07 14:03pm
Used the spray the other night and just as
I expected I wasnt able to stay hard, I
used one spray on the back of the head, I
was hard at first, I was on top of her,
then I felt I was gonna cum so I told her
to go on top of me and she came and I
started to go soft so I told her to get on
all fours but I by then I lost my woody,
so she gave me head and then I got hard
again(she didnt even say nothing about the
taste of the spray) , then I finished it
off by the back, I came in about 2 minutes
of hard pounding but she already came
twice so It was fine.
Sprays just arent for me, they numb me too
much and then I lose the feeling. Im
gonna have to stick wit practice and
alcohol lol
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MikeH90
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Posted: 04-12-07 14:07pm
POM82
wrote:
Used the spray the other
night and just as I expected I wasnt able
to stay hard, I used one spray on the back
of the head, I was hard at first, I was on
top of her, then I felt I was gonna cum so
I told her to go on top of me and she came
and I started to go soft so I told her to
get on all fours but I by then I lost my
woody, so she gave me head and then I got
hard again(she didnt even say nothing
about the taste of the spray) , then I
finished it off by the back, I came in
about 2 minutes of hard pounding but she
already came twice so It was fine.
Sprays just arent for me, they numb me too
much and then I lose the feeling. Im
gonna have to stick wit practice and
alcohol lol
how many squirts of the spray did you use?
Maybe try 1 or 2 rather than 3 or 4. I
just use it right on the underside of the
head and shaft. NOT my whole dick.
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POM82
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Posted: 04-12-07 14:15pm
I used 1 suirt on the back of the head, I
guess im just really sensitive to numbing
down there. but anyway, thats not the
solution I wanted anyway cause its kills
the spontaneity of sex unless you walk
around with a numb johnson allday lol
joking
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MikeH90
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Posted: 04-12-07 14:23pm
POM82
wrote:
I used 1 suirt on the back
of the head, I guess im just really
sensitive to numbing down there. but
anyway, thats not the solution I wanted
anyway cause its kills the spontaneity of
sex unless you walk around with a numb
johnson allday lol
joking
thats to bad, I used 3 squirts last night
when I was total flaccid and still got an
erection.