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quickdraw

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Fantastic...
Posted: 04-06-07 16:12pm

here are my credit card details........

Can you please send me some of those dream pills. I really want them.

Thank you.
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HealthySex

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Posted: 04-06-07 20:21pm

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yes i mean pushing the pc muscle up into the body or squeezing if you will.

to the second question, i have no idea, lol. when i feel like i'm about to cum, i could just squeeze the pc muscle and i could get a few more strokes. then its just goes downward from there. for example when i first feel like cumming, squeeze, maybe i can get in another 5-7 strokes before i feel like cumming again, then squeeze, okay next time maybe just 4-6 strokes and so on until every stroke is unbearable i must bust. haha. i'm not doctor so i really can't give an explanation.


Ok, so you're just adding a little more time near the end. But, are you maintaining a relaxed PC through out intercourse to last longer? What I mean is, if you were to contract your PC the entire time or throughout intercourse would you be brought to orgasm faster?
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Posted: 04-06-07 20:30pm

I've read the book. I think it has some good advice towards sexual health, may help people with ED naturally, but it has very little info on resolving PE. It's only a very small section and deals solely with Serotonin and Adrenaline. So essentially, nothing more than taking 5-HTP for a short time, or protein which contains the amino acid Tryptophan to lead to 5-htp. Oh yeah, and also keeping the PC relaxed. There might be some herbs listed that could help to. Otherwise, if I were buying a book for PE, this definitely would not be the one I'd buy.

The book's title guaranteeing Multiple Orgasms is a little funny too. It relies on flexing a muscle in the tailbone area, yet it's covered in 3-4 pages. Very little info on how to use it during sex. I've tried it through masturbation and it does provide strong sensations, but how to separate it from ejaculation I'm not sure. I haven't been able to dedicate much time to this area.

The author also goes into his treatment of dating, women, etc. It sometimes seems rude and sexist, but either way rather unneeded. You'll find more info on choosing silk sheets and rubber vaginas than you will on PE and Multiple Orgasms.
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quickdraw

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Posted: 04-07-07 06:58am

HealthySex wrote:
I've read the book. I think it has some good advice towards sexual health, may help people with ED naturally, but it has very little info on resolving PE. It's only a very small section and deals solely with Serotonin and Adrenaline. So essentially, nothing more than taking 5-HTP for a short time, or protein which contains the amino acid Tryptophan to lead to 5-htp. Oh yeah, and also keeping the PC relaxed. There might be some herbs listed that could help to. Otherwise, if I were buying a book for PE, this definitely would not be the one I'd buy.

The book's title guaranteeing Multiple Orgasms is a little funny too. It relies on flexing a muscle in the tailbone area, yet it's covered in 3-4 pages. Very little info on how to use it during sex. I've tried it through masturbation and it does provide strong sensations, but how to separate it from ejaculation I'm not sure. I haven't been able to dedicate much time to this area.

The author also goes into his treatment of dating, women, etc. It sometimes seems rude and sexist, but either way rather unneeded. You'll find more info on choosing silk sheets and rubber vaginas than you will on PE and Multiple Orgasms.


Top man Smile Luckily I haven't purchased it yet (No point over the Easter BH in England!)

So if you recommend the first book, I might buy that instead.
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Posted: 04-07-07 09:00am

I just wish I could get up to date info on Dapoxetine from the FDA. On the net, the topics disappeared sort of like a fart in the wind.
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HealthySex

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Posted: 04-07-07 15:48pm

quickdraw wrote:


Top man Smile Luckily I haven't purchased it yet (No point over the Easter BH in England!)

So if you recommend the first book, I might buy that instead.


I haven't read the first book myself, but someone on here has and says it would probably be helpful. I think it'd be a good book because it covers different types of PE, helps you pinpoint yours, and then treatment options for your type. I'm busy elsewhere, so although I do the occasional experiment with PE and come in here and talk, it's not my current project.
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Posted: 04-07-07 19:34pm

Full Article

"The impact premature ejaculation can have on men and their partners can be devastating for a relationship and, currently, there are no truly optimal therapies for PE," says Jon L. Pryor, M.D., chairman and program director of the Department of Urologic Surgery at the University of Minnesota and lead investigator of the dapoxetine phase III clinical trials. "The results with dapoxetine are compelling. They demonstrate that, for the first time, a medicine can be taken by men on an on-demand basis and provide significant improvement in their PE condition. The unique profile of dapoxetine translated into targeted treatment of PE compared to existing therapies. There are meaningful improvements in this study across all primary and secondary endpoints, including a three-to-four fold increase in IELT."

Found this article to be interesting, thought someone else might too.
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JD33

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Posted: 04-07-07 20:18pm

Good find Zigg. Hopefully they approve the drug soon so we can all get our hands on it.
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zigg

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Posted: 04-07-07 20:23pm

Well, news about the drug has all but vanished since it was declined by the FDA in October 2006 I believe. But I know the company ALZA still has very high hopes for the drug. May be a couple of years (hopefully) but I have a very strong feeling that we will see this drug eventually.

Another spray called TEMPE (like Stud100) mentioned above is also yet to be released but apparently helps individuals last 2.4 times longer. I've never thought about getting a spray but there just may be some benefit until the "miracle pill" hits. I mean really, what does ALZA have to do to convince the FDA...?

You have to wonder what politics are being played. When this stuff hits it will be huge.
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MandM

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Posted: 04-09-07 20:58pm

Can anybody substantiate an unbiased review for this stuff?
http://www.vivaxa.com/

I originally saw an ad in Maxim magazine, which made me very skeptical. But since it's a topical cream that's supposed alleviate penile senesitivity, I thought it might something to look into.
On the bottom, it said "Remember that no product is for everyone. If you are taking drugs that require a prescription to regulate blood
pressure or to control cardiac conditions, ask your doctor if VIVAXA™ is right for you. "
I take blood pressure medication, so I am hesitant to try it. But something about it is alluring.

Take a look, let me know what you all think
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zigg

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Posted: 04-09-07 21:06pm

What's alluring is the woman in the red bra in the flash movie up top Wink
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MandM

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Posted: 04-09-07 21:11pm

haha, Yea I guess so... With a girl like that, when the first guy finishes, she probably has another one lined up behind him.
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HealthySex

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Posted: 04-10-07 14:57pm

zigg wrote:
Full Article

"The impact premature ejaculation can have on men and their partners can be devastating for a relationship and, currently, there are no truly optimal therapies for PE," says Jon L. Pryor, M.D., chairman and program director of the Department of Urologic Surgery at the University of Minnesota and lead investigator of the dapoxetine phase III clinical trials. "The results with dapoxetine are compelling. They demonstrate that, for the first time, a medicine can be taken by men on an on-demand basis and provide significant improvement in their PE condition. The unique profile of dapoxetine translated into targeted treatment of PE compared to existing therapies. There are meaningful improvements in this study across all primary and secondary endpoints, including a three-to-four fold increase in IELT."

Found this article to be interesting, thought someone else might too.


I believe the reason the drug is not being approved is because it is just a modified or different type of anti-depressant. Their aim was to get the effects on PE from anti-depressants but hopefully make the side effects fewer. Problem is anti-depressants are really some of the worst drugs out there and may cause long term problems as well.

Depression is a major problem and therefore the side effects are viewed to be acceptable. However, PE is not really a "major" problem. Sure, we know that it can ruin confidence, sex lives, etc. but otherwise not a major health problem. Therefore, the FDA doesn't seem to consider the side effects vs. the problem it is treating acceptable. If it had the same side effects, but treated cancer I'm sure it would be approved. Risk vs. Benefits.

So I guess in the FDA's view, it is better for doctors to prescribe an anti-depressant for something it is not approved for...than it is to approve a drug specifically for that problem with fewer but similar side effects.

Or maybe it really does have some major side effect that makes it worse than current anti-depressants.
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HealthySex

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Posted: 04-10-07 15:09pm

MandM wrote:
Can anybody substantiate an unbiased review for this stuff?
http://www.vivaxa.com/

I originally saw an ad in Maxim magazine, which made me very skeptical. But since it's a topical cream that's supposed alleviate penile senesitivity, I thought it might something to look into.
On the bottom, it said "Remember that no product is for everyone. If you are taking drugs that require a prescription to regulate blood
pressure or to control cardiac conditions, ask your doctor if VIVAXA™ is right for you. "
I take blood pressure medication, so I am hesitant to try it. But something about it is alluring.

Take a look, let me know what you all think


I saw that in a commercial and mentioned in this thread before. I haven't tried it though, so can't comment on it. The aspect that seemed appealing is that it claims not to desensitize the penis like Stud sprays and such do. It also has an ingredient to help with erections. Probably the ingredient they use in Maxoderm, their flagship product. Maxoderm is for erections and erection quality, however when it first appeared on the market it was sold as a penis enlargement/erection lotion. Now they've cut down on claims, probably because they've become successful and don't want to get in trouble.

I liked the idea of it because it's not a desensitizer and it's external (because I can't experiment with too many internal things for now). What I'd like to know about (besides if its effectiveness) is does it need to be used pre-performance. The website says to use it several days a week and before performance. Best results would be attained after a few months of use. So, after 3 months of use would you last longer even if you did not use it before a performance? If so, that's great because then you can be spontaneous and don't need to know when you're having sex. And of course, you don't have to say, "Hold on honey, let's wait another 30 minutes. I've got to do something."

Might be worth a try. Should we assign different products to different members and get a broad spectrum test? Haha. If we did, it might not be ideal as we'd then label a product useless, but really it was just useless for that one test subject. My roommate is moving out in a few weeks so I'll have more alone time and probably more sex so maybe I should give this one a try. Seems too much of a band aid though. A pill may have to be taken forever, just like this cream. However, if the pill aims at the root of the problem I'd rather take that. This cream definitely doesn't aim at the root, only a symptom. What's the damn root?
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Posted: 04-12-07 09:39am

quickdraw wrote:
HealthySex wrote:
I've read the book. I think it has some good advice towards sexual health, may help people with ED naturally, but it has very little info on resolving PE. It's only a very small section and deals solely with Serotonin and Adrenaline. So essentially, nothing more than taking 5-HTP for a short time, or protein which contains the amino acid Tryptophan to lead to 5-htp. Oh yeah, and also keeping the PC relaxed. There might be some herbs listed that could help to. Otherwise, if I were buying a book for PE, this definitely would not be the one I'd buy.

The book's title guaranteeing Multiple Orgasms is a little funny too. It relies on flexing a muscle in the tailbone area, yet it's covered in 3-4 pages. Very little info on how to use it during sex. I've tried it through masturbation and it does provide strong sensations, but how to separate it from ejaculation I'm not sure. I haven't been able to dedicate much time to this area.

The author also goes into his treatment of dating, women, etc. It sometimes seems rude and sexist, but either way rather unneeded. You'll find more info on choosing silk sheets and rubber vaginas than you will on PE and Multiple Orgasms.


Top man Smile Luckily I haven't purchased it yet (No point over the Easter BH in England!)

So if you recommend the first book, I might buy that instead.


DO NOT buy that stupid book - Guaranteed multiple... waste of time and a very hard read, the author needs to take english classes. I agree with HealthSex, a couple of pages dedicated to what the book claims to do and it does not help PE issues. Go with the other recommended book.
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Posted: 04-12-07 09:48am

HealthySex wrote:
MandM wrote:
Can anybody substantiate an unbiased review for this stuff?
http://www.vivaxa.com/

I originally saw an ad in Maxim magazine, which made me very skeptical. But since it's a topical cream that's supposed alleviate penile senesitivity, I thought it might something to look into.
On the bottom, it said "Remember that no product is for everyone. If you are taking drugs that require a prescription to regulate blood
pressure or to control cardiac conditions, ask your doctor if VIVAXA™ is right for you. "
I take blood pressure medication, so I am hesitant to try it. But something about it is alluring.

Take a look, let me know what you all think


I saw that in a commercial and mentioned in this thread before. I haven't tried it though, so can't comment on it. The aspect that seemed appealing is that it claims not to desensitize the penis like Stud sprays and such do. It also has an ingredient to help with erections. Probably the ingredient they use in Maxoderm, their flagship product. Maxoderm is for erections and erection quality, however when it first appeared on the market it was sold as a penis enlargement/erection lotion. Now they've cut down on claims, probably because they've become successful and don't want to get in trouble.

I liked the idea of it because it's not a desensitizer and it's external (because I can't experiment with too many internal things for now). What I'd like to know about (besides if its effectiveness) is does it need to be used pre-performance. The website says to use it several days a week and before performance. Best results would be attained after a few months of use. So, after 3 months of use would you last longer even if you did not use it before a performance? If so, that's great because then you can be spontaneous and don't need to know when you're having sex. And of course, you don't have to say, "Hold on honey, let's wait another 30 minutes. I've got to do something."

Might be worth a try. Should we assign different products to different members and get a broad spectrum test? Haha. If we did, it might not be ideal as we'd then label a product useless, but really it was just useless for that one test subject. My roommate is moving out in a few weeks so I'll have more alone time and probably more sex so maybe I should give this one a try. Seems too much of a band aid though. A pill may have to be taken forever, just like this cream. However, if the pill aims at the root of the problem I'd rather take that. This cream definitely doesn't aim at the root, only a symptom. What's the damn root?


I'd shy away from something I'd have to take 30 minutes before having sex. The Stud spray worked again for me last night. I have been out of town the past week, (did you all miss me?) and got back last night. Wife and I got ready for bed (shower, brush teeth etc) and after wife left bathroom and went into bedroom I finished up flossing teeth and then used the spray, turned off the light and hopped into bed. We got going within 3 or 4 minutes. I was able to get hard and maintain while we banged. I lasted longer than her again. This time I was able to feel more of my orgasm than that first time I used the spray (see previous posts regarding that)

This spray works for me. Hope you find the same results.
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Posted: 04-12-07 14:03pm

Used the spray the other night and just as I expected I wasnt able to stay hard, I used one spray on the back of the head, I was hard at first, I was on top of her, then I felt I was gonna cum so I told her to go on top of me and she came and I started to go soft so I told her to get on all fours but I by then I lost my woody, so she gave me head and then I got hard again(she didnt even say nothing about the taste of the spray) , then I finished it off by the back, I came in about 2 minutes of hard pounding but she already came twice so It was fine.

Sprays just arent for me, they numb me too much and then I lose the feeling. Im gonna have to stick wit practice and alcohol lol
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Posted: 04-12-07 14:07pm

POM82 wrote:
Used the spray the other night and just as I expected I wasnt able to stay hard, I used one spray on the back of the head, I was hard at first, I was on top of her, then I felt I was gonna cum so I told her to go on top of me and she came and I started to go soft so I told her to get on all fours but I by then I lost my woody, so she gave me head and then I got hard again(she didnt even say nothing about the taste of the spray) , then I finished it off by the back, I came in about 2 minutes of hard pounding but she already came twice so It was fine.

Sprays just arent for me, they numb me too much and then I lose the feeling. Im gonna have to stick wit practice and alcohol lol


how many squirts of the spray did you use? Maybe try 1 or 2 rather than 3 or 4. I just use it right on the underside of the head and shaft. NOT my whole dick.
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Posted: 04-12-07 14:15pm

I used 1 suirt on the back of the head, I guess im just really sensitive to numbing down there. but anyway, thats not the solution I wanted anyway cause its kills the spontaneity of sex unless you walk around with a numb johnson allday lol

joking
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Posted: 04-12-07 14:23pm

POM82 wrote:
I used 1 suirt on the back of the head, I guess im just really sensitive to numbing down there. but anyway, thats not the solution I wanted anyway cause its kills the spontaneity of sex unless you walk around with a numb johnson allday lol

joking


thats to bad, I used 3 squirts last night when I was total flaccid and still got an erection.
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