Well I had some success this weekend. I
am quite certain that my PE is totally
physiological now. I went out and bought
some of the Trojan numbing condoms. Where
I usually ejaculate during foreplay or a
couple strokes after penetration I was
able to last for at least a half hour
until the numbing agent started to wear
off and I was really going at it.
I feel as if, if my probably was
psychological my PE couldn't be put at bay
like that with a desensitizing agent.
Yes Jeffers , same here i used to use
durex performa , it did numb your pc a
little but the problem was my wife would
eventually wanted me to take of the condom
& and i feared the yellow numbing
cream would get into her & she would
not orgasm at all
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Jeffers
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Posted: 10-05-08 22:07pm
Well I feel as if if the numbing agents
work for us, our PC flexing is not the
issue. I believe our physiological
problem needs to be cured by some other
means.
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earthworm_gym
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Posted: 10-06-08 13:14pm
ok, so I wanted to try the kegel system,
but not sure what the best medor of
approach is
how long should kegel holds last?
how often should I do a kegel hold (per
day)?
when should I do reverse kegel holds?
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sam89
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Posted: 10-06-08 13:48pm
Jeffers - the numbing agent will obviously
help no matter what your problem is
because the less you feel, and the less
sensation in your penis, the less likely
you will be to cum, and that goes for all
of us PE or no PE. So just because the
numbing agent helped you last longer
doesn't mean that your problem is
completely physiological. I myself have
tried the durex performax to no real
result because it didn't numb my penis
quickly enough for it to have any real
effect on my control. But I'm glad this
works for you and if it continues to work
for you let us know and maybe more people
will try it. Also this is probably not a
good longer term solution for many because
some girls are on the pill and don't want
their partners using condoms.
darock - I do perform reverse kegels
during intercourse which does reduce my
urge to ejaculate temporarily. And yes it
does mimic the act of taking a piss so
your doing it right.
earthworm - the consensus is to hold your
PC for as long as possible. Maybe start at
aiming for 10 seconds if your PC is weak,
and then work your way up to a minute or
longer. The longer you contract your PC
each time the less you should do each day.
So if your only doing contractions for 10
seconds at a time you can probably do
upwards of 30 a day but if you are holding
your PC for a minute at a time probably no
more than ten times a day is necessary.
Many people say overdoing your kegels is a
bad idea so make sure you don't hurt
yourself and start off light and work your
way up to doing more. After every PC
contracting you should be doing reverse
kegels to stretch the muscle and keep it
from getting too tight. This will also
help you learn how to control you PC and
not just tighten it but also relax it.
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John414
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Posted: 10-06-08 14:54pm
Just because numbing condoms work does not
mean it has nothing to do with the pc
muscle. If i feel little or no stimulation
it doesn't matter if i flex the pc or not
i just dont feel the urge to orgasm. The
whole point of the pc muscle is that you
can feel that intense stimulation without
ejaculation.
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Jeffers
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Posted: 10-06-08 14:56pm
Contrary to reviews, I found that
performax didn't do much compared to the
Trojan brand extended pleasure. Even
though it apparently has more benzocaine.
The performax seemed like a regular condom
where the ext. pleasure helped me last
much longer. The issue is, like you said,
you have to wait for it to work and many
girls are on the pill and won't want you
to use a condom.
It seems like a pretty crappy situation
because I don't feel like PC control is
the root of my problem like many others,
but just a hypersensitive penis shaft.
The fact that I can't really find anyone
else with the same issue is frustrating
and I don't know what else to try other
than desensitizing agents.
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Sid23
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First time poster with a question Posted: 10-06-08 18:30pm
Hey guys,
This is definitely the best thread on PE
on the net, so well done to all involved.
I have a question I’d like to get some
thoughts on. I have just started going out
with a girl and I’m not sure if I should
tell her I have PE. If I don’t, it might
be a nasty surprise; but if I do, won’t
she be anxious about it too? And when/how
would I go about telling her? What do you
all do when you meet someone new? Having
not had sex for over two years I’m
pretty worried about the whole thing, and
I want it to go well because I like this
girl a lot.
My PE is not that serious – about 2
minutes is probably an average for the
first time and I can sometimes go for
quite a while the second time around. Some
girls have been happy with this, some not.
But sometimes PE actually makes me so
anxious that I can't get hard - ironic,
eh?!
So obviously there are a few ways it could
go wrong, and I’m just not sure if it's
better to warn her about it or not.
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dasdy
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Posted: 10-06-08 22:05pm
Yeah I know I usually don't tell them
before, maybe I am still hoping it will be
good this time...
I usually go with a stupid excuse like "oh
its been so long since I...and thats
why..." and other even more lame excuses.
If the girl really likes you it doesnt
matter, she is prolly more concerned about
doing well herself... almost all ppl have
some psychological problem with their
sexuality. It is common for girls not to
be able to even enjoy sex just because
they think about how YOU percieve them and
if they are doing anything wrong...
Well isn't that what we are doing?
Before and during sex with a girls I am so
aware of my PE, I know I am going to come
in a minute and that is prolly half the
problem.
I dunno if the kegels work but I hope so.
I have actually read another thing that
has worked.
A guy used to smack his penis about 50
times every evening for some time, which
according to him desensitized it and he
now performs miracles with his...well it
sounds plausible, no?
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NYC216
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The answer to all our problems : ) Posted: 10-09-08 12:04pm
I Knew it. Everything else wasn't working.
There had to be something else why we have
this problem. Check out the latest
breaking news...hopefully they can come up
with a cure or a decent treatment.
Re: The answer to all our problems : ) Posted: 10-09-08 12:38pm
NYC216
wrote:
I Knew it. Everything else
wasn't working. There had to be something
else why we have this problem. Check out
the latest breaking news...hopefully they
can come up with a cure or a decent
treatment.
Hmmmmmm??? !!! Not in the mind!!!! "This
contradicts the idea, which has been
common for years, that the primary form of
premature ejaculation is a psychological
disorder," Placebo effect?????
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k1ng
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Posted: 10-10-08 01:41am
LMAO.. that is so funny, because I am very
good at video games, and just about every
sport I have ever tried playing >.<
But its been awhile since I have been on
here, and my progress in what I have been
trying to do is.. weird.
I was doing Kegel's for awhile, got to
holding it pretty long and was doing it
the way we all feel it should be, but when
I did it the same day I did stuff with my
girlfriend, or even if it was like the
night before, when I got there I was so
sensitive and had absolutely no control
over not clinching my PC.
On the other hand, if I spend all day
making sure I do not clinch keep it
relaxed, when I get into the bedroom it
seems almost easier, but I still don't
last all too long, longer, and I have good
control but I still only last maybe a
minute? I guess thats about 6 to 10 times
better than before lol, but once you get
it a little I guess you just keep wanting
more.
With this i am not sure what to do, I fear
doing my PC work outs because what if I
cant control it like I think keeps
happening, and I fear not doing any means
I'll lose any progress I made, or it wont
help out and improve anything.
I do not think my problem is
psychological, but the mental state has so
much to do with everything, and I know I
am not in the right one to be overcoming
this, but its so damn hard to, not just
with this but with anything that takes
time and work to get. And it'd be nicer if
there was a way to build up stamina and
get used to the feeling of sex as well
because I know thats a problem of mine as
well, its hard to get good at something
you can only do for a minute, lol.
@sid23:
This may be easier said than done, as most
things are, but I'd tell her straight up,
I know I didn't and wish I would have, you
may like the girl, and if you do then you
want her to really like you, this would be
a good way to find out how healthy a
relationship can be, is if she is willing
to put up with it, or help you, or is fine
with it, then you know shes a good girl,
and to hold onto her if everything else
goes good too, lol.
I too always used the, "its been so long"
excuse, which is true to an extent, but
not a 4 second extent lol. I'd say just
tell her man, work case, things dont work
out, but its not worth it if she doesn't
understand. Also... 2 minutes is pretty
lucky if you ask me I'd kill for 2
minutes sometimes lol.
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sam89
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Posted: 10-10-08 08:56am
So recently not only have I been having
problems with my PE but also problems with
my erection. I am easily able to get hard
during foreplay but then i reach for the
condom and immediately go soft. I can
still penetrate with half an erection,
which you would think wouldn't be that bad
becuase I wouldn't be as stimulated, but
then I still cum in like ten seconds even
when I'm not hard! So I feel that PE is
being affected by my erection problems a
good amount. I am seriously considering
take Viagra. Anybody else have any
suggestions for me besides Viagra. And is
there any way I can get Viagra or
something of the sort while I'm at college
and can't see my doc. And would I even be
able to be prescribed Viagra at 19
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k1ng
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Posted: 10-10-08 11:12am
I know what you mean too Sam, I have kind
of had that before but to a slighter
degree which never really bothered me, but
if you arent getting it from a doctor i
dont see how you could be told no.
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earthworm_gym
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Posted: 10-10-08 18:00pm
kegels...reverse kegels...
Ok, I am reading soo many contrasting
articles on which ones to do and why??
Will someone clear this up for me- WHICH
ONE IS BETTER? And which one should I
focus on more.
Should I be doing both?? Or just one??
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rocketman1
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Posted: 10-10-08 22:44pm
doing both..
k1ng.. for example.. when you work out
really hard doesnt your muscles get weaker
for a short period of time.. same goes for
working out your PC muscle.. but after a
while it can handle it and recuperate much
faster
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jeff23
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Posted: 10-11-08 17:01pm
Hey guys, this thread is a really great
resource and i'm glad to have found it. I
had a little bit that thought might add to
the discussion, so here goes:
I guess I'm a 'secondary' sufferer, in
that I trained myself to cum quickly early
in life, and I'm trying to reverse the
downward trend now that it matters. Like
lots of the other guys on here, I've found
that reverse kegels have potential but are
hard to use in the actual act and that,
like a lot of resources say, it is harder
last longer in the missionary position. I
tried to practice these both at once
masturbating and found it really hard to
last masturbating prone, so I used google
to try to figure out if others practiced
this way. The result was that I found out
about a 'disorder' called TMS in which a
guy is unable to enjoy regular sex, can
only have sex missionary style, and may be
unable to cum because he's always
masturbated by basically 'pillow humping'
because it feels much better than actual
sex. Man, I'd like it if I could to go
back to missionary and last! I mean I
don't want to develop a disorder, but i
tried pillow humping (jeeze i feel so 5rd
grade for saying that) and it feels wayy
stronger. The result? My new plan is to
practice masturbating with stop-start /
reverse kegels doing this, because i think
the issue is that we normally train doing
things that are inherently less exciting
than sex and then struggle when it comes
time for the real thing. Ok, that's all!
Thoughts?
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Jimmster
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question Posted: 10-14-08 08:14am
Hi guys,
well I'm still here because I'm not having
much success lately...but for a different
reason! Sam, the same as you I lose my
erection when I go to put on a condom!
This is a particular bummer because I
think I can control my PE really well now.
Rocketman's long kegels and John's slight
reverse work fine.
I'm sure it is performance anxiety and I'm
just going to try and not think about it,
but I wondered, has anyone found that
keeping your PC relaxed, or reverse
kegelling a little bit stops you getting,
or staying hard? By the way I get really
hard at other times like in the morning or
when "practicing", so I know it is not
physiological.
Jim
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lotus_man
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Posted: 10-14-08 22:10pm
well i went ahead and bought the extended
pleasure condoms by trojan and used them
twice and they have worked like a charm.
i will continue to practice what i
practiced before to eventually gain
control but i'm pretty happy with these
condoms. can these condoms negatively
affect the girl though?
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MaxL08
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Posted: 10-17-08 04:12am
Hey guys,
I hope you don't mind me joining in the
conversation - maybe I can help out and
answer a few questions - feel free to PM
me or email me if you like.
Don't tune out your body. TUNE INTO IT.
You need to become more familiar with your
different levels of sexual arousal. You
also need to recognize how you feel as you
approach your point of ejaculatory
inevitability, the "point of no return."
Once you recognize how you feel close to
your point of no return, it's not
difficult to make small sexual adjustments
that allow you to remain highly aroused
without ejaculating.
There has been a lot of success with the
Stop & Start method - when done
properly - with a supportive and patient
partner, it can effectively fix PE
problems.
A brief explanation:
This technique simply means to bring
yourself to (near) the point of no return,
and stopping all stimulation before it's
too late. For some men, this includes
removal of the penis from the vagina,
although for others this may not be
necessary.
After the urgent feeling to ejaculate
subsides, usually after 30 seconds, then
thrusting and intercourse can be resumed.
This stop and start technique can be
repeated several times.
Communication is the key here, though.
Men need to let their partner know that
they are getting close to orgasm and to
slow down or temporarily stop.
Hopefully my comments have been of some
help to you. Cheers, Max