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Jeffers

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Posted: 10-05-08 16:28pm

Well I had some success this weekend. I am quite certain that my PE is totally physiological now. I went out and bought some of the Trojan numbing condoms. Where I usually ejaculate during foreplay or a couple strokes after penetration I was able to last for at least a half hour until the numbing agent started to wear off and I was really going at it.

I feel as if, if my probably was psychological my PE couldn't be put at bay like that with a desensitizing agent.

Comments?
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ahinc46

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Numbing condom sure helps
Posted: 10-05-08 20:39pm

Yes Jeffers , same here i used to use durex performa , it did numb your pc a little but the problem was my wife would eventually wanted me to take of the condom & and i feared the yellow numbing cream would get into her & she would not orgasm at all
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Jeffers

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Posted: 10-05-08 22:07pm

Well I feel as if if the numbing agents work for us, our PC flexing is not the issue. I believe our physiological problem needs to be cured by some other means.
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earthworm_gym

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Posted: 10-06-08 13:14pm

ok, so I wanted to try the kegel system, but not sure what the best medor of approach is

how long should kegel holds last?
how often should I do a kegel hold (per day)?
when should I do reverse kegel holds?
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sam89

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Posted: 10-06-08 13:48pm

Jeffers - the numbing agent will obviously help no matter what your problem is because the less you feel, and the less sensation in your penis, the less likely you will be to cum, and that goes for all of us PE or no PE. So just because the numbing agent helped you last longer doesn't mean that your problem is completely physiological. I myself have tried the durex performax to no real result because it didn't numb my penis quickly enough for it to have any real effect on my control. But I'm glad this works for you and if it continues to work for you let us know and maybe more people will try it. Also this is probably not a good longer term solution for many because some girls are on the pill and don't want their partners using condoms.

darock - I do perform reverse kegels during intercourse which does reduce my urge to ejaculate temporarily. And yes it does mimic the act of taking a piss so your doing it right.

earthworm - the consensus is to hold your PC for as long as possible. Maybe start at aiming for 10 seconds if your PC is weak, and then work your way up to a minute or longer. The longer you contract your PC each time the less you should do each day. So if your only doing contractions for 10 seconds at a time you can probably do upwards of 30 a day but if you are holding your PC for a minute at a time probably no more than ten times a day is necessary. Many people say overdoing your kegels is a bad idea so make sure you don't hurt yourself and start off light and work your way up to doing more. After every PC contracting you should be doing reverse kegels to stretch the muscle and keep it from getting too tight. This will also help you learn how to control you PC and not just tighten it but also relax it.
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John414

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Posted: 10-06-08 14:54pm

Just because numbing condoms work does not mean it has nothing to do with the pc muscle. If i feel little or no stimulation it doesn't matter if i flex the pc or not i just dont feel the urge to orgasm. The whole point of the pc muscle is that you can feel that intense stimulation without ejaculation.
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Jeffers

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Posted: 10-06-08 14:56pm

Contrary to reviews, I found that performax didn't do much compared to the Trojan brand extended pleasure. Even though it apparently has more benzocaine. The performax seemed like a regular condom where the ext. pleasure helped me last much longer. The issue is, like you said, you have to wait for it to work and many girls are on the pill and won't want you to use a condom.

It seems like a pretty crappy situation because I don't feel like PC control is the root of my problem like many others, but just a hypersensitive penis shaft. The fact that I can't really find anyone else with the same issue is frustrating and I don't know what else to try other than desensitizing agents.
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Sid23

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Posted: 10-06-08 18:30pm

Hey guys,

This is definitely the best thread on PE on the net, so well done to all involved.

I have a question I’d like to get some thoughts on. I have just started going out with a girl and I’m not sure if I should tell her I have PE. If I don’t, it might be a nasty surprise; but if I do, won’t she be anxious about it too? And when/how would I go about telling her? What do you all do when you meet someone new? Having not had sex for over two years I’m pretty worried about the whole thing, and I want it to go well because I like this girl a lot.

My PE is not that serious – about 2 minutes is probably an average for the first time and I can sometimes go for quite a while the second time around. Some girls have been happy with this, some not. But sometimes PE actually makes me so anxious that I can't get hard - ironic, eh?!

So obviously there are a few ways it could go wrong, and I’m just not sure if it's better to warn her about it or not.
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dasdy

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Posted: 10-06-08 22:05pm

Yeah I know I usually don't tell them before, maybe I am still hoping it will be good this time...

I usually go with a stupid excuse like "oh its been so long since I...and thats why..." and other even more lame excuses.

If the girl really likes you it doesnt matter, she is prolly more concerned about doing well herself... almost all ppl have some psychological problem with their sexuality. It is common for girls not to be able to even enjoy sex just because they think about how YOU percieve them and if they are doing anything wrong...

Well isn't that what we are doing?
Before and during sex with a girls I am so aware of my PE, I know I am going to come in a minute and that is prolly half the problem.

I dunno if the kegels work but I hope so. I have actually read another thing that has worked.
A guy used to smack his penis about 50 times every evening for some time, which according to him desensitized it and he now performs miracles with his...well it sounds plausible, no?
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NYC216

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The answer to all our problems : )
Posted: 10-09-08 12:04pm

I Knew it. Everything else wasn't working. There had to be something else why we have this problem. Check out the latest breaking news...hopefully they can come up with a cure or a decent treatment.

http://news.bbc.co .uk/2/hi/health/7657092.stm
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MrNOOB

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Re: The answer to all our problems : )
Posted: 10-09-08 12:38pm

< /table>

Hmmmmmm??? !!! Not in the mind!!!! "This contradicts the idea, which has been common for years, that the primary form of premature ejaculation is a psychological disorder," Placebo effect?????
NYC216 wrote:
I Knew it. Everything else wasn't working. There had to be something else why we have this problem. Check out the latest breaking news...hopefully they can come up with a cure or a decent treatment.

http://news.bbc.co .uk/2/hi/health/7657092.stm
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k1ng

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Posted: 10-10-08 01:41am

LMAO.. that is so funny, because I am very good at video games, and just about every sport I have ever tried playing >.<

But its been awhile since I have been on here, and my progress in what I have been trying to do is.. weird.

I was doing Kegel's for awhile, got to holding it pretty long and was doing it the way we all feel it should be, but when I did it the same day I did stuff with my girlfriend, or even if it was like the night before, when I got there I was so sensitive and had absolutely no control over not clinching my PC.

On the other hand, if I spend all day making sure I do not clinch keep it relaxed, when I get into the bedroom it seems almost easier, but I still don't last all too long, longer, and I have good control but I still only last maybe a minute? I guess thats about 6 to 10 times better than before lol, but once you get it a little I guess you just keep wanting more.

With this i am not sure what to do, I fear doing my PC work outs because what if I cant control it like I think keeps happening, and I fear not doing any means I'll lose any progress I made, or it wont help out and improve anything.

I do not think my problem is psychological, but the mental state has so much to do with everything, and I know I am not in the right one to be overcoming this, but its so damn hard to, not just with this but with anything that takes time and work to get. And it'd be nicer if there was a way to build up stamina and get used to the feeling of sex as well because I know thats a problem of mine as well, its hard to get good at something you can only do for a minute, lol.

@sid23:

This may be easier said than done, as most things are, but I'd tell her straight up, I know I didn't and wish I would have, you may like the girl, and if you do then you want her to really like you, this would be a good way to find out how healthy a relationship can be, is if she is willing to put up with it, or help you, or is fine with it, then you know shes a good girl, and to hold onto her if everything else goes good too, lol.

I too always used the, "its been so long" excuse, which is true to an extent, but not a 4 second extent lol. I'd say just tell her man, work case, things dont work out, but its not worth it if she doesn't understand. Also... 2 minutes is pretty lucky if you ask me Razz I'd kill for 2 minutes sometimes lol.
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sam89

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Posted: 10-10-08 08:56am

So recently not only have I been having problems with my PE but also problems with my erection. I am easily able to get hard during foreplay but then i reach for the condom and immediately go soft. I can still penetrate with half an erection, which you would think wouldn't be that bad becuase I wouldn't be as stimulated, but then I still cum in like ten seconds even when I'm not hard! So I feel that PE is being affected by my erection problems a good amount. I am seriously considering take Viagra. Anybody else have any suggestions for me besides Viagra. And is there any way I can get Viagra or something of the sort while I'm at college and can't see my doc. And would I even be able to be prescribed Viagra at 19
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k1ng

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Posted: 10-10-08 11:12am

I know what you mean too Sam, I have kind of had that before but to a slighter degree which never really bothered me, but if you arent getting it from a doctor i dont see how you could be told no.
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earthworm_gym

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Posted: 10-10-08 18:00pm

kegels...reverse kegels...

Ok, I am reading soo many contrasting articles on which ones to do and why?? Will someone clear this up for me- WHICH ONE IS BETTER? And which one should I focus on more.

Should I be doing both?? Or just one??
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rocketman1

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Posted: 10-10-08 22:44pm

doing both..
k1ng.. for example.. when you work out really hard doesnt your muscles get weaker for a short period of time.. same goes for working out your PC muscle.. but after a while it can handle it and recuperate much faster
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jeff23

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Posted: 10-11-08 17:01pm

Hey guys, this thread is a really great resource and i'm glad to have found it. I had a little bit that thought might add to the discussion, so here goes:

I guess I'm a 'secondary' sufferer, in that I trained myself to cum quickly early in life, and I'm trying to reverse the downward trend now that it matters. Like lots of the other guys on here, I've found that reverse kegels have potential but are hard to use in the actual act and that, like a lot of resources say, it is harder last longer in the missionary position. I tried to practice these both at once masturbating and found it really hard to last masturbating prone, so I used google to try to figure out if others practiced this way. The result was that I found out about a 'disorder' called TMS in which a guy is unable to enjoy regular sex, can only have sex missionary style, and may be unable to cum because he's always masturbated by basically 'pillow humping' because it feels much better than actual sex. Man, I'd like it if I could to go back to missionary and last! I mean I don't want to develop a disorder, but i tried pillow humping (jeeze i feel so 5rd grade for saying that) and it feels wayy stronger. The result? My new plan is to practice masturbating with stop-start / reverse kegels doing this, because i think the issue is that we normally train doing things that are inherently less exciting than sex and then struggle when it comes time for the real thing. Ok, that's all! Thoughts?
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Jimmster

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Posted: 10-14-08 08:14am

Hi guys,

well I'm still here because I'm not having much success lately...but for a different reason! Sam, the same as you I lose my erection when I go to put on a condom! This is a particular bummer because I think I can control my PE really well now. Rocketman's long kegels and John's slight reverse work fine.
I'm sure it is performance anxiety and I'm just going to try and not think about it, but I wondered, has anyone found that keeping your PC relaxed, or reverse kegelling a little bit stops you getting, or staying hard? By the way I get really hard at other times like in the morning or when "practicing", so I know it is not physiological.

Jim
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lotus_man

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Posted: 10-14-08 22:10pm

well i went ahead and bought the extended pleasure condoms by trojan and used them twice and they have worked like a charm. i will continue to practice what i practiced before to eventually gain control but i'm pretty happy with these condoms. can these condoms negatively affect the girl though?
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MaxL08

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Posted: 10-17-08 04:12am

Hey guys,

I hope you don't mind me joining in the conversation - maybe I can help out and answer a few questions - feel free to PM me or email me if you like.

Don't tune out your body. TUNE INTO IT. You need to become more familiar with your different levels of sexual arousal. You also need to recognize how you feel as you approach your point of ejaculatory inevitability, the "point of no return." Once you recognize how you feel close to your point of no return, it's not difficult to make small sexual adjustments that allow you to remain highly aroused without ejaculating.

There has been a lot of success with the Stop & Start method - when done properly - with a supportive and patient partner, it can effectively fix PE problems.

A brief explanation:
This technique simply means to bring yourself to (near) the point of no return, and stopping all stimulation before it's too late. For some men, this includes removal of the penis from the vagina, although for others this may not be necessary.

After the urgent feeling to ejaculate subsides, usually after 30 seconds, then thrusting and intercourse can be resumed. This stop and start technique can be repeated several times.

Communication is the key here, though. Men need to let their partner know that they are getting close to orgasm and to slow down or temporarily stop.

Hopefully my comments have been of some help to you. Cheers, Max
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