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Q: Creativity And Bi-polar
asked by: They_made_me_do_it on March 5th, 2007
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Hello everyone.
My name is Ryan and I'm an 18 year old in Alberta Canada. I've been connected with Bi-Polar disorder scince before I was even in kindergarden when my mother had a severe episode in which she was hospitalized for months. She's had two more full blown episodes scince then and I'm glad to say that after extensive therepy, counciling, medication and support, she now lives a medicated, happy and balanced life. As for myself, I first showed signs of being Bi-Polar when I first hit puberty (Big shock there, eh?) I was having odd and rapid moodswings ranging from on top of the world to hopelessly depressed. Fortunately for myself, I had a parent that could easilly identify the situation and was brought into a psychologist who said I showed strong points of Bi-Polar II and/or Cyclothymic Disorder. I was given a drug to take daily, I forget the name, but it didn't help the condition at all, then I was started on Lithium.

At first I liked how I had felt a little more stabilized and 'normal', but after aorund a month, I hated it. I could tell that it was working and that it was helping my moods, but there was a problem. See, when I was 14 I first started acting out, I had been living in a highly disfunctional familly, and my mother and I had just moved out, I was struggling with life when I started thing about acting. I tried it, and I've been addicted to it ever since. It became my outlet to how I was feeling and the moods I was having. After two or so years, I was started on Lithium and I began to notice that my love and passion for acting had dwindled. I was having trouble getting into the zone for preformances and I couldn't fully tap into characters with the depth I used to. I was still pretty good, but I had a reputation for being an extremely indepth and naturally talented actor in my community, but while I was on Lithium, it all changed. So I Desided to get off the meds and within a week I was able to reach my potential as an actor again. in the last two years I've studied and prefected my craft and only untill the last couple of months while I was working on a new play, did I realiize that my method of acting was copmpletely different and more indepth then most people that I had ever met, which then brought up a question:

Are People with Bi-Polar Disorder more prone to Creativity?

I undoubtedly think that yes, yes we are. I don't know why, but I can say that using acting, along with writing, drawing and reading and other creative outlets i'm able to keep my tendancies under control, and in the porcess, expand my mind more quickly and with more understanding then I could have ever thought.

Now, for those of you who actually read all of this (Skimming down dosen't count) I apologize. It's my first post here and I got a little carried away typing, but I would like to offer you to respond with any examples, stories, ideas or comments on whether or not you agree that we, as the Bi-Polar people, are more easilly subject to creativity.

Thank you all

P.S - Keep in mind that Hemmingway (Writer), Sylvia Plath (Writer), Tchaikovsky (Musician), F. Scott Fitzgerald, William Blake, Sara Teasdale all are said to have had some form of Bi-Polar Disorder
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leonardygunawan
replied on January 31st, 2008
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My Bipolar and Creativity
I felt this strange mood swing when im at 17 and recently begin diagnose that i surely have Bipolar Disorder at the age of 29 , between that spam of time , i create and design according to my mood , to express my mood swing via the web.
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Seraph
replied on February 1st, 2008
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No Mozart but...
There might be a point to this.

I have always been musically inclined. When I was something like 7, I would listen to my sister practice on the piano. Then, when she would walk away, I would sit down and play the piece she had just played...mistakes and all.

I've never been able to play from sheet-music but have an uncanny ability to know instinctively what keys to press so I generally play by hearing.

I sometimes try to compose a lil but, I also find that the meds from time to time interferes with the creative juices. I won't stop taking them for the sake of my music though as it's not my primary source of income, which would suffer if I were to stop taking the meds, so I don't pay a lot of attention to my music any more...not with the stresses of work and now the problems with my joints/inflammation.
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puzzld
replied on February 1st, 2008
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yes, it's true. i'm an artist and hate feeling numb. i recently became medicated for bp1. and what do ya know... i lost my job almost 2 weeks ago because i couldn't perform!!! ugh. i hate this.

my brother is also bp but with psychotic episodes. he refuses to take meds and has been living with my father most of his life, he's 40. he's an amazing artist and inventor. he won some national contest when he was in high school. his work hung in the white house for 2 years. he was committed at one point in his life for wanting to kill our mother. they put him on lithium and released him after 6 months. he had a court order to go to the clinic once a week and get injections of lithium. he said he couldn't remember ever being "crazy" or that he wanted to hurt our mother. he went several times and got his dose. but it only lasted for a few months and he left his apartment (clothes, furniture, everything) threw his work into a dumpster and he was nowhere for a while. he surfaced eventually.
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ktthefreak
replied on February 5th, 2008
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I'm definitely a firm believer that bipolar's are more creative than the average person.. just think about the famous people in history who had the disorder - beethoven, van gogh, edgar allen poe, virginia woolf etc.
i also am able to play notes on the piano just by hearing them and knowing instinctively which keys to hit.. which always seemed odd to people yet it's so simple to me. I've simply seemed to grasp more things than the average person.. and really just think outside the box. i've looked into this in the past, i even read a book a couple weeks ago titles "manic depression and creativity". Anyway.. yeah that's it for now.
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manuftw82
replied on February 5th, 2008
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I'm bipolar and am probably the least creative person I know. I am also the exact opposite of detail oriented.
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Seraph
replied on February 6th, 2008
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I guess it is kinda like saying that bipolar people has weak knees eh manuftw82? Wink
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manuftw82
replied on February 7th, 2008
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Seraph wrote:
I guess it is kinda like saying that bipolar people has weak knees eh manuftw82? Wink

lol yea I dont think either one has to do with each other.
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Go2extremes
replied on February 7th, 2008
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The Creativity Curse
Without doubt, I was accepted to one of the top art schools in NYC when I was 15, an Art Director by the time I was 22. If you look at the stats of famous people with BP you will see how many of us fit that artistic mold. Most of us extreme are over achievers, due to our mania (and obsessive, perfectionist nature) it can take you far in life however... it also can take you far enough to make you want to fall off the face of the earth.
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leonardygunawan
replied on February 7th, 2008
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thats PERFECTLY CORRECT
i feel im not alone now in this world knowing many people share the same experince, glad to know all of you

leonardy
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designlady
replied on February 7th, 2008
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definitely.
I with you all, too. I'm an artist... the only artistically-creative person in my family--and the only one with bipolar disorder. Coincidence? I think not!
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designlady
replied on February 7th, 2008
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puzzld wrote:
my brother is also bp but with psychotic episodes. he refuses to take meds and has been living with my father most of his life, he's 40. he's an amazing artist and inventor. he won some national contest when he was in high school. his work hung in the white house for 2 years. he was committed at one point in his life for wanting to kill our mother. they put him on lithium and released him after 6 months. he had a court order to go to the clinic once a week and get injections of lithium. he said he couldn't remember ever being "crazy" or that he wanted to hurt our mother. he went several times and got his dose. but it only lasted for a few months and he left his apartment (clothes, furniture, everything) threw his work into a dumpster and he was nowhere for a while. he surfaced eventually.


OMG! Is he okay?
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bakin_april
replied on February 8th, 2008
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My personal opinion is that almost all forms of mental illness and creativity go hand-in-hand. Another observation is that intellectual genius and mental illness seem to be pretty closely related. My mother, who suffers from severe depression, is a creative writer. She says: don't even try to write if you're not depressed!

There isn't enough knowledge about the functioning of the brain to be able to point to the key to these issues yet. I believe many experts won't pay attention to the subject until a physical location is found in the brain. As the past has shown, it will then be no time until they make alterations at their whim to make the individuals behave as the experts desire.
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Seraph
replied on February 9th, 2008
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bakin_april wrote:
As the past has shown, it will then be no time until they make alterations at their whim to make the individuals behave as the experts desire.


That raises an interesting point. How many of these "Mental Disorders" is labelled as such just because the person is not acting the way that society wants them to act...?

Obviously I am referring to "benign" situations. Something like serial-killers, even tho it can also be described as "Not acting like society wants" is a bit more of a moral question...

Don't know if this makes sense to any-one Confused
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CarolDiane
replied on February 9th, 2008
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I agree
I was diagnosed back in the 80s through blood test and put on lithium. Had a bad time with it, so I stoped and kept it a secret since. Just now coming out of the closet, I was just put on Lamectal.
I am a freelace Nature photographer and love it. Had my own small business at one time "Portaits Of Nature" from home.
So,yes I must agree with you on this one.

Carrie
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snb
replied on February 17th, 2008
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I agree
As a person dealing with bipolar disorder, I really do believe that we are more disposed to creativity, especially that resulting from the experience of intense emotions. Perhaps psychological suffering is even an essential component of creativity; without such suffering, it seems an artist would have less to draw upon for inspiration. Although I am a student pursuing a career as a scientist, I have definitely felt a strange intensity when participating in more artistic endeavours, especially writing. Science, however, can also benefit greatly from a certain amount of creativity. Sometimes, one makes imaginative leaps and fills in the pure logic later.

These are some interesting scientific articles that examine this issue:
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health /mental-health/mg18825265.800
http://discovermagazine.com/1996/oct/thatf inemadness894/?searchterm=bipolar disord er

Also, I highly recommend reading the book Touched with Fire: Manic-Depressive Illnes and the Artistic Temperament by Kay Redfield Jamison, which makes and excellent case for the link between bipolar disorder and creativity from the perspective of a person who is both a doctor and a person with bipolar disorder. The basic argument here is "not that all writers and artists are depressed, suicidal, or manic. It is, rather, that a greatly disproportionate number of them are; that the manic-depressive and artistic temperaments are, in many ways, overlapping ones; and that the two temperaments are causally related to one another."

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CarolDiane
replied on February 17th, 2008
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Also
If you go to Neurology Now.com you can subscribe for free like I did and get a monthly magazine. Got a lot of our problems in there and what they are trying to come up with in the future. Had a good article this month on "Rebif" for MS amongst other interesting reads. I think it is an asset to read up on some of the research they are doing and the articles are great!
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