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Eat healthy

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Posted: 02-09-07 03:24am

I was surprised when I found how little information there was on magnetic therapy in this forum. There is scientific evidence to support it. The use of magnets for healing goes back hundreds of years, or even longer according to one of the books I read. In the twentieth century it was kick started again by albert roy davis. He advocates using only the north pole for healing. Other researchers say using both poles work well. I've used magnets (north pole) on various aches and pains and they provided great relief. I know other people who have been happy with them too, so if what your doing isn't working, you might want to look into magnets as an alternative.
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Posted: 02-15-07 14:28pm

I agree with you.
Try reading about pyramid power fascinating
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matt182

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Posted: 02-15-07 18:35pm

There is also scientific evidence that disproves it. Frankly, if it is to have any effect at all, it needs to be a very strong magnetic field, hence it is likely to be a placebo effect.
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Posted: 02-16-07 12:55pm

Matt 182 if the scientists disapprove of it I guess it has some kind of effect then! Anyway if it works for what ever reason that's good, maybe its just the human touch that goes with the magnet? (thought ) if the moon can move our oceans and cause millions of women to ovulate , why can't a magnet effect the iron in our bodies?
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Posted: 02-16-07 17:36pm

Disprove as in concluding it has no effect. And the moon doesnt cause women to ovulate, or the tides of earth for that matter. But anyway, its just another quack product looking for money - after all, it is a business.
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Eat healthy

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Posted: 02-16-07 18:43pm

The entire medical industry is a business, as is pretty much everything else. Does that make you disbelieve everything orthodox medicine tells you? Couldn't magnetic therapy and other alternatives, from a business standpoint, be considered competition for orthodox medicine?

Studies can easily be manipulated. Take vitamin c for example. Many studies conclude that it doesn't prevent colds or help people to get over them more quickly. Those studies use ascorbic acid, vitamin c in its least absorbable form, taken orally in low doses (usually 100mg-500mg daily). Look up vitamin c research using sodium ascorbate orally in daily doses of 10,000mg-40,000mg, and injecting 100,000mg or more daily, and you'd be amazed at what vitamin c can do. Look up the research of frederick r. Klenner, m.D.
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Posted: 02-17-07 03:48am

Thats beacause those products work, you dont see doctors or physios treat patients with magnetic fields..Simply because it doesnt work!
Anyhow your entitled to your opinion, if you think it works by all means buy as much magnetic therapy products as you want Wink :d
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Eat healthy

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Posted: 02-17-07 13:09pm

Actually, some doctor's do use magnetic fields with patients. They've used electromagnets in hospitals to help heal broken bones for many years. More recently, they've been experimenting with transcranial magnetic stimulation as a treatment for depression. Some doctor's use static magnets too. One argument you'll hear is that only electromagnets are effective, not static magnets. That isn't true. There have been thousands of studies proving the effectiveness of static magnets, but many of them haven't been published. If you spend some time searching you'll find some of these studies on the web. The north pole of the magnet is the side that should be used, and if the magnet isn't strong enough, and isn't used for the proper amount of time, it won't work. That's how studies on magnets are manipulated. Studies that show magnets don't work either use bipolar magnets, which have a long history of inconsistent results, use the south pole, which will worsen the condition or use a north pole magnetic field that is too weak.
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Posted: 02-22-07 13:34pm

I would have to agree with magnetic therapy being effective for aches and pains. My father uses a magnetic bracelet to get rid of the minor arthritis in his right wrist. He was skeptical at first but now fully advocates the use of magnets for those sorts of problems.
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Posted: 02-22-07 20:53pm

There is no proof that magnets have any healing powers, according to researchers from Drexel University in Philadelphia. Researchers say the lack of conclusive evidence of any therapeutic value of magnets in an editorial published in the British Medical Journal. They point specifically to problems creating impartial studies where patients are unaware they are using the products.

"Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. If there is any healing effect of magnets, it is apparently small since published research, both theoretical and experimental, is weighted heavily against any therapeutic benefit," says Leonard Finegold, Ph.D.
Studies carried out into benefits of magnetic insoles compared to placebo insoles (of aluminium foil) showed no significant benefit using the magnetic insoles compared to the placebo
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Eat healthy

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Posted: 02-23-07 02:44am

You were saying... http://www.consumerhealthrevi ews.com/articles/MagneticTherapy/PeerRevie w.htm

This will help explain the reality of our medical care, but you can also read the book, "Racketeering in Medicine", by James P. Carter, M.D., Dr. P.H.

http://www.consumerhealthreview s.com/articles/News/GANGSTERSINMEDICINE.ht m
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Posted: 03-05-07 21:43pm

People will always try and make money when they see an opportunity, it doesn't matter what the topic is.

However, I have done a lot of research on (and experimenting with) magnets and while I don't know whether they actually help or worsen health conditions, I really do beleive that they do have an effect on the body and the poles do have different effects. I have noticed different, repeatble, effects depending on the ways magnets are used. It definately doesn't seem to be a place-bo.

I have not seen any solid evidence (that can be 100% beleiveable) either way. Until there is solid evidence, no one can be totally sure whether they help or not.

There are many things that we don't know or understand and it is always possible that we think we know/understand something when we are actually totally wrong (which does happen). Magnetism, I beleive, is one of those things that we only have a very basic understanding of. Our theory works, but it probably doesn't include the hole picture.

There are many different possibilities in how magnets could effect the body. In order to get acurate results from scientific trials or experiments, every possibility would need to be tested, including using different strenghts, sizes, positions and poles. It could also be possible that users arn't able to notice the effects - I know I didn't when I first used them.

I originally used Alex Chiu's rings, which used both poles of the magnets which were positioned above & below the little fingers. I felt many effects from these including increase in body temperature and more energy, but I stopped using when I began to develop health problems (with may or may not be related).

Since then I have used the north pole only, in many different ways. They seem to help my health problems, but as I can't be sure, I don't use them very often. They definately seem to help me to relex and sleep though.

Here is some info about it from scientists, that's not directly related to selling products (although it could be):
http://www.keelynet. com/biology/biomag1.txt
http://www.keelynet. com/biology/biomag2.htm

Here is an interesting experiment that I've found, which I may try sometime:
http://www.bi omagnetic.org/magnetic%20effects.html
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