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johnR

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Posted: 04-13-07 23:55pm

Or not Laughing Just kidding!
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carolyn77

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Posted: 04-21-07 08:14am

I was diagnosed as being BiPolar/Manic depressive. I was real good at first. I would get better and then quit taking them. I have done several times and ended up in the hospital. I never took it seriously until now. I need to stay on my medicine so I will stay stable.
I finally accepted that I will have to take the meds like I'm suppose to. I go see a counselor to.
I learned alot about me. I am my own worst enemy. Listen to what the doctors says.
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cece7

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Posted: 04-23-07 20:55pm

I think that is smart carolyn. I only recommend cbt and the tea forms 'in addition' to being on your stabilizing meds for people with bi-polar.
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lunamatron

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Posted: 04-27-07 17:22pm

I'm 23 and have been diagosed as bipolar for nearly 6 years. The first two years were beyond tumultuous. I was in and out of the hospital and placed on loads of medications without much improvement. Actually, it seemed as if I became worse when I was on the meds. I was always tired, forgot everything, lost track of time..... Pretty much just walked around like a zombie for a good 2 years of my young life. I completely attribute this to the high dosages and poor medication management. Needless to say, I became pregnant and my entire world changed within the moment I found out. The doctors urged me to abort my child and told me that she would be mentally retarded or not even carry to term. I decided at that point to stop all medications immediately and "take charge of my life".

Fast forward 4 years.... I am married, have two beautiful children and although it has not been an easy road, I have managed off medications the entire time. Pregnancy and ,motherhood for some reason really helped me put things into perspective. I read several books on cognitive therapy and techniques on managing my outburst/depression.

I had my most recent baby in October and just this past month started back up on some meds. I was terrified to go back on meds, but I was begining to exhibit some signs of post-partum depression and refuse to allow it to get out of control. I am lucky to have a psychiatrist that is very open to starting medications slowly and at low doses. She evaluates my progress weekly and immediately discontinues any medication that seems to have adverse results.

I guess the key is learning how to "read" you moods and point out any potential symptoms. I am also quite lucky because my husband does a great job on keeping an eye on my behavior. If I start acting "off" he immediately tells me and I call my therapist. I also get out an exercise a ot more now. When I feel stressed or overwhelmed I just get out of the house for the afternoon and do something physical.

I hope my experiences help.
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johnR

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Posted: 05-04-07 14:37pm

That was a very inspirational post Luna thanks!
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lauren61

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Posted: 05-16-07 10:27am

Hi there;

I have been living with bipolar disorder for over 30 years. It is a difficult and debilitating disease, it sucks and would rather have a physical terminal illness. BUT-You have the same issues I have had and we are not alone.

I think you need to stay on meds. I have tried a few times when I was 16, out of the hospital, then at 22, I had a bad bad breakdown. On meds again. I felt like I dont want them I want to feel "normal" but without them I cannot work, or function well. I have had a few times up to the age of 33 that I was on and off. Now I am 45 and have realized it is a lifelong regimin of meds. and in order to survive in this world and stay alive (suicide-is always on my mind) unless Im manic. I have to accept my illness and do what I have to do. It is also hard for me to stay in a relationship I push everyone away and I am also very intense even with meds. But the cycles are still there and I never know from day to day how I will feel. God, its hard. I also become withdrawn, want to be alone, left alone not talk and just be. This can be one day talking and felling good-next day opposite, its just part of the many many many symptoms of the illness. I have been single for 7 years twice married. Dated lots of men last 7 years only one or two relationships, because I was manic when I met them, after the mania was over I said to myself-what have I done??? So point being meds are a must, for most of us. I have done some way out there wild and crazy things in life---I mean WILD, so please listen to what I am saying and realize you are not alone-even though our illnesses are not all the same symptomatically, the basics are.

lauri
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lauren61

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Posted: 05-16-07 10:35am

After reading a lot of your comments on lexapro etc. I totally disagree.
I have been on every medication and combinations of them. Currently I am on Lithium 450 mg, Welbutrin300mg. and Lexapro 30mg.
Alos was on Lamictal, Cymbalta and others combined.

The point is that you have to find the right combination that works for you as an individual-I should know I have been on meds for 30 years.
Sometimes it is trial and error. Lithium works well as an antidepresant as well as an anti manic. But I am severe with my illness and have been on all meds made so far and have to go back to old combos now.
We are all chemically different-what works for one may not work for another. The key is try, try, try until you get the right combination that helps you.

Lauri
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cece7

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Posted: 05-20-07 09:54am

good for you luna and i feel for you lauren and i am glad you do not have terminal illness.
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johnR

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Posted: 06-04-07 21:14pm

Lauren I can't begin to imagine how hard it must be to flucuate so much even on meds Confused I am glad you currently have found a combination that is working for you.
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supportivehusband20

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Posted: 06-27-07 14:05pm

I'm reading alot of these posts.... and I have a question...

All of you who say you are bi polar...

are you type 1 or type 2??
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Color of Paper

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Posted: 06-29-07 15:44pm

Hia....well I'm back and I've been gone for ALONG time. Im working on a short write up of what I went though and all thats happend.

To answer supportive husban, im 2.

And im so amazed this post is still going...makes me really happy and thanks for everyones input. ^_^
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johnR

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Posted: 07-13-07 12:39pm

I'm actually not bi-polar but have battled anxiety depression and panic until recently and have a close friend who is bi-polar that was having some success using cbt.

Welcome back Color I hope life is treating you well Very
Happy
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cece7

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Posted: 08-16-07 16:47pm

Just an fyi that I am not a suffer of bi-polar, been through anxiety panic and depression though and that was hard enough to tackle so I really feel for bi-polars.
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gringaloca

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Off Meds Might Be Ok
Posted: 08-17-07 08:40am

i don't take meds but its a struggle . some days better than others. i too go through relationship like changing clothes. being alone is hard i haven't figured out how to do it yet. i haven't found med that works . guess i stay to stressed.
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Color of Paper

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Posted: 08-17-07 10:14am

There are many people suffering from mental stress, hardship and pain. If your not able to live your life, or feel that its really causing problems in your every day life the best thing is to seek a DR. I'm not talking about going to one Psychologist or psychaitrist...I mean keep going to different ones until you click with one...one that makes you feel comfortable to talk. Once that is established, listen to them, work with them let them work with you....try meds, you MUST stay on them for a good period of time to really see if they work, be responsible and take them as directed....if you feel 2 ikey then try something eles.

Many people in this world would be supprised what humans can do for other humans ^_^
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cece7

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Posted: 02-07-08 20:18pm

Great points color I hope you are doing well.?.
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antigone

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Posted: 02-08-08 03:19am

I have 2 sons that are bipolar. I have had them under the treatment of a psychiatrist for quite some time. We ran the gamut with traditional meds. Stability for either of them is illusive and when achieved, fleeting. Due to the rapid growth spurts in children I think trying to get the meds correct is difficult. After going through a terrible spring last year I decided to give supplements a try. I have extensive knowledge in this area. I do not disparage traditional medication or traditional treatment. I was truly desperate to find stability for my boys and some peace in my life.

Long story short - I have them on a combination of meds and supplements. EPA/DHA (fish oil), B vitamins, choline, inositol, Vit. C etc. along with a small amount of risperdal. My 9 yr. old just recently reported hearing voices. He was experiencing command auditory hallucinations. I spoke with his doctor. We tweaked the meds and supplements. Things are better. No more voices. Still not stable though. I keep searching for the panacea for this disorder. There are LOTS of small studies that are being done with vitamins, mineral, amino acids etc. I think many have some effect but not for all.

I could go into all the different studies I have read about but that would take days. I have come to the point that I think supplements may offer stability at some point. I don't know that the scientific community has figured it all out yet.

One study that looks very promising is using Vitamin C. The results have been very impressive. Schizophrenia and bpd have been treated in people and they have successfully been taken off all meds. This study was conducted by physicians and they were using megadoses of vit. C intravenously. Oral supplements are likely to be insufficient to achieve stability.

I don't recommend trying any of this without some guidance from a psychiatrist.

I would love to hear more on cbt. I have read that this is very helpful and I am in the process of trying to find someone to take my boys to for cbt.
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puzzld

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Posted: 02-08-08 11:01am

i didn't read everyone's posts so sorry if someone else gave this advice...

please be careful to take any herbal/supplemental drugs if u still have any prescribed meds in your system. this can be very dangerous. i was on lexapro briefly and it drove me into the ground... it is powerful as someone has stated. i am bp 1 and take meds... lately i have been wanting to stop too out of frustration of the consequences ie, what u give up mentally/physically for the drugs.

isn't lexapro for depression??

i take seroquel, lamictal, cymbalta and ativan. i'll be off the cymbalta and ativan asap. dr doesn't want to rock my boat too much.
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cece7

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Posted: 02-08-08 19:38pm

Hi antigone. I am glad you have found something that is helping your boys.
Cbt is really useful but takes some work. If you can get them into a cbt group that would be a great addition to all you are currently doing. If you can just get your boys to try countering their thoughts in a TEA form I think that would be of some use. I used them to help me overcome my anxiety and panic and they are wonderful. If you can't find a cbt group read the cbt book by Sam Obitz and start doing the TEA forms with your boys and see if that helps. Let me know if you have any other cbt questions I can answer? Take care!
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bakin_april

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Posted: 02-08-08 21:02pm

Hope you all are doing well. It's a hard lot in life we've been given, isn't it? But I think there's a reason for everything. We just may not know what it is at the moment! Wink

I spent years on and off meds. Those years were unmitigated hell to me and everyone around me. I damaged lots of relationships, especially the most important one with my daughter, who was quite young at the time.

My breaking point was a total melt-down 8 years ago. When I was feeling better I decided to comply with my meds. Forever. My quality of life improved 100%. It isn't easy. I'm definitely not perfect, but it's so much better than living with the turmoil and conflict I constantly created.

One thing I do is lots of positive self-talk. For every thought that passes through my mind, if necessary. It keeps me focused on the real issues. There's 1 question I ask myself about everything: Do I have the [emotional, spiritual, physical] energy to spend on this? It helps sort out what's really important.

Currently, my meds are: lithium, geodon, wellbutrin and cymbalta. It took lots of trial and error to come up with this combination but I'm very pleased with it.

Best of everything, to everyone, everywhere. Very
Happy
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