What do you think about the whole "jesus
is the way, truth and the light thing" and
that everythng else leads to hell?
I hear voices telling me I need to turn to
christ or I will burn forever. Other
voices say that since I met the devil in
my head, I know christ is real, and I know
I can never have faith, and god wants
faith. And since I "know" I am damned. I
dont know if this makes sense.
I personally dont like chrisitanity that
much
i hear so many voices ad they tell me, as
far as I can tell, what has been fed into
my mind about my society and te religion,
christianity, that permeates every layer
of my societies existence.
Sometimes I hear a voice quiet and deep
inside that never stps screaming "i want
to be a christian, im sorry god, I dont
want to burn, I hate you,(to me) how could
you sell your soul, I hate you, I want to
be a christian, im sorry god, I dont want
to burn"
im very worried about hell, I find
chriitanity to be devoid of humor and
humanity, I find it absolutely freaky,
terrifying, desolate, I cant even tink of
the words to describe the feling of an
eternal fiery torment after death. The
idea that god thinks we are all worthless
and need him in order to be anything. It
operates on another level of reality from
the one we have here in school or at the
job. Its like. In order not to be
eternally screwed over, you have to serve
god his way or else! Nothing else
matters, he wants 100 percent.
I could go on about my delusions and
voices, but I am wondering how you
operate.
Are any of you you psychic or do you havep
precognition?
Im convinced im damned and that the dark
forces give me psychic gift to remind me
of my curse.
Mayb I unlocked a devil archetype in my
mind, maybe I ulocked a cain arcetype or a
soddom and gomorra archetype, I dont
know.
I live to study yorban myhology and
psirituality. The west africans had a
panthen of gods and the whole thing makes
for a better spiritual interpretation of
the hman experience than christianity.
But my voices tell me the west africans
were really worshiping the devil, along
wit native central, south and north
americans, egyptians, congomen and women,
hindis, gypsies and all other pagan
religions. Worse of all te voices tell me
that they who follow thee other paths know
that jesus is the only truth and that they
are lying to themselves to bring down
other christians like me, and I fell for
their trap.
My guess is tis is from the fundamental
propaganda flowing nto me since birt
but the fear of hell is in me, and I hear
voices saying repent and turn!! And "its
too late and you blew it!!!
So I say, ok, iturn to jesus, and for a
few mnutes im ok, then the voices say od
is calling you and he needs your power of
miistry because I know that hell is real
now!
I think this is more a product of te
chrisitan macine
i think christianity makes the least sense
out of most religions, so it leads its
followers to question and break rules, and
I did the ultimate rule breaking, I hink I
did the npardonable sin, by feeling the
power of biblical words when I was
younger, and later, high on weed, calling
on satan trying to get an answer, and then
I did get an answer. I think a lot of
christians do this, if I am right, and its
all in the head. This turns them into a
christian shaman.
Of course we arent prepared to be shamans
in this society that stresses
individuality, dont talk to strangers, and
the like, while stressing community in
curch, we are not prepared, we get scared
health questionless and become preachers
trying to impress god with our hellfire ad
damnation. I can just imagine my
minestry: everyone, look at me, I sold my
osul to satan, I ear voices, I know hell
is real. Im damned and its too late, but
I know hell is real, so you all need to
get right with jesus and pray every second
of every day because go wants 100
percent!!!
It would make websites like "hell is real"
or "jesus is savior .Com" with their
grisly audio clips of people screaming in
hell soooo happy.
Anyway... This is wat im thiking about
lately. The voices definitely dontl ike
that I am in school for anthropology!!!
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Chezzy
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Joined: 16 Jan 2007 Posts: 152
Posted: 01-28-07 20:59pm
Hello the shadow.. I am sorry you are
suffering these voices, my mum has similar
voices tormenting her too...I believe in
heaven and hell and I am a christian,
there is a book out called "23 minutes in
hell - bill wiese "
its really opens your eyes..The devil is
real, and spirits..
This is an incredible testimony of bill
wiese and his supernatural "23 minute trip
to hell". Bill was placed in hell not as
a casual ... All observer, but as
someone who was not saved. He recounts
all the horrid details with such precision
that it captivates the listener from start
to finish
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Fairy Godmother
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You Are Not Damned Posted: 01-28-07 21:26pm
All you have to do is ask for god to come
into your heart. Once there, you will
never be forsaken. Until you have come
close to death, you could never understand
the depts of hell that those voices will
be from heaven not hell. God is stronger
than satan. Life is about choices as well
as control. I choose to control my own
life and I choose to live a good, helpful
and useful life, rather than an evil and
destructive life........Thats too easy a
pattern to follow. You are only damned if
you allow yourself to be.............
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theshadow
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Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 8
Posted: 02-01-07 20:31pm
Screw bill weise, seriously. Terrible
ministry. Only reason his congregation
likes god is because they have convinced
themselves they are "spiritually
enlightened enough" to face "gods terrible
truth." they really dig on that darkness
"like praise god all mighty and terrible,
thank jesus im on his good side"
i thought the age of visions was over.
If we admit bill weiss's stuff evidence
into the court of clueless humans trying
not to get zapped forever by the allmighty
bug zapper, then we should admit all
visions and prophesies into the realm,
right?
Its strange that visions of his kind
strengthen his faith. What kind of person
gets fulfilment out of this kind of thing.
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Chezzy
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Joined: 16 Jan 2007 Posts: 152
Posted: 02-02-07 22:45pm
I'm not sure where your coming from
theshadow, what are your exact beliefs???
No body can influence you, only if you let
them, pastor or no paster. Being a
christian, believing in jesus, heaven and
hell. You make a relationship with god
yourself by learning, reading, praying.
Whats going to happen at the end of time,
because once your there in hell, there is
no hope. You will never be able to get
out.Its over.
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theshadow
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Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 8
Posted: 02-03-07 12:15pm
I believe that that is a terrible plan and
that its sick and mean spirited. It
sounds like the ultimate scare tactic.
Life is hard enough. Its not cool, and I
hope thats not gods plan because im not
impresed, im depressed. Conscious beings
sould not be tormented forever and tats
the bottom line. I know im a fallen
creation according to christiaity
incapable of comprehendng godsw onders.
But I fi ever tell myself hell is ok for
anyone than I am slipping into a moral
standard I dont even want to think about.
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Chezzy
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Joined: 16 Jan 2007 Posts: 152
Posted: 02-04-07 19:38pm
But god is giving you a way out, he loves
us so much he does not want us to end up
in that horrible place, ist meant for the
devil and his angels, not us, thats why he
wants us to be in heaven. Let jesus into
you heart, learn about how much god loves
you, things will change, life is not
always easy, for anyone, life can hand out
cruel things to people, but in the end
would you not like to go to heaven rather
than a place of eternal torment.
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theshadow
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Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 8
Posted: 02-04-07 20:49pm
I would argue tat its not really nice that
the angels and satan will end up in hell
either.
If one human ends up there, its a messed
up plan. I now according to christianity
my morals come from god, because I am
hopelessly lost and hell bound. Well
those morals, god given or otherwise, thik
its messed up if any one, especially
humans ends up in ell. If I dont make a
choice before I die, I end up in hell?
Then its a bad plan because no one should
end up in hell.
Besides im not scared by bil lweise.
People with dreams like that are a prime
example of why the chrisitan universe is
so scary. There are plenty of people with
visions of hell, me included, and they are
all different. It could be all in the
mind. If its real, then why is god
sending everyone different visions?
It seems like if the chrisitan god is
real, then he is just playing tremendous
games with our minds and feelings, and it
just doesnt seem right.
I dont even understand how to let jesus
into my heart. I thought god had to call
you, and some people just arent called?
And if tihs is the case then I have gotten
god to call me off and on over the years,
I really have awesome mystic powers! I
can regulate divine calling, like a
savedunsaved switch in my "heart of
hearts"
saved means I have to stop asking
questions, thats all it means. People can
argue this way and tat. But in the ed,
once they gollow jesus they are no longer
asking "is chrisitanity true" they are
asking "how can I prove chrisitanity true
I nthis world"
and the point is that there is a big
difference and also that I it was true, it
should be more obvious.
I mean we are o a schizophrenia site a
site where people post about theories that
could explain every reliigous vision form
mine to muhammads to pauls to moses to
jesus and back.
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Mommy35
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Posted: 02-04-07 21:17pm
Wow is your post ever deep!!!
You know what? I am a .Christian, but
not a .God fearing one. I firmly believe
that if you obey the 10 .Commandments,
treat others as though you want to be
treated, and don't do things that are not
good for you to excess you will be all set
do you take medications to help supress
the voices? Do you even want them
supressed?
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Chezzy
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Joined: 16 Jan 2007 Posts: 152
Posted: 02-04-07 21:48pm
All satan wants to do is "destroy" human
life, he does not care about you at all,
and he would not care if you were tortured
in hell for the rest of your life, I dont
want to sound harsh but thats the reality
of him, his angels are down there. They
hate people, all people, christian or not
and if satan can drag you into hell with
him, he will my friend, he despises god
and what god stands for..God created
everything, its his glory not satans, god
wants to "share" all his glory with us in
heaven. Surely you would want that too.
I dont want to patronise you just be there
for you if you wanna share things. Some
christians are called, some come to the
lord by word or sharing, even t.V... You
can certainly give your heart to jesus,
100% theshadow. Like I said jesus doesnt
want anyone to perish its not what he
created you for.
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Chezzy
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Joined: 16 Jan 2007 Posts: 152
Posted: 02-04-07 21:57pm
[quote="theshadow"]
saved means I have to stop asking
questions, thats all it means. People
can argue this way and tat. But in the
ed, once they gollow jesus they are no
longer asking "is chrisitanity true" they
are asking "how can I prove chrisitanity
true I nthis world"
quote]
you can still ask god questions, I
sometimes have bad patches but I trust in
god for my life because I know where I am
going, this world is just a holiday so to
speak, and we are waiting to go home,
where there will be no more suffering, no
more pain, no more of it all. But the
other one satan, thats all he offers, and
he loves it when gods people suffer and
fall. All you have to do is ask for
jesus to come into your heart.
You have to discern wether your "powers"
are from the evil one, because he will
come to as an angel of "light". All good
and all sweet but underneath my friend its
poisen, and the more you practise in his
power, the more stronghold he will have
over your life..
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yoshi_kl
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Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Posts: 6
Posted: 02-05-07 19:35pm
Well, dont talk about those things and go
to see the psychiatrist. U need help. Ur
havog schizophrenia.
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Trisha Gates
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Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Oregon
Posted: 02-11-07 03:27am
Well if I were you, before I let myself
worry to much about all this hellfire and
damnation crap id rule out the fact that
its a mental issue by trying medications
or therapy or something. I mean surely
if this is a god and devil thing then they
would be strong enough to penetrate a man
made solution. And then if it contiues,
then all I can offer is this. The devil
is tricky, he'll play all kinds of medical
answer up games to keep you from knowing
god. Maybe this fear hes sending is
because its his way of getting revenge on
someone that "teased him as a teen ager.
But he's feeding you caca and hes
controling your life. Pray and ask god
for help with your fear, tell him that you
want to know him as a friend and not as
this scary idol that youve been told of.
Tell him why your scared and appologize
for what you feel guilty about and know
that hes your father, he loves you and it
breaks his heart to see one of his
children suffering this way.
But first rule at the other caca and then
thank god for doctors :
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Philo
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Posted: 03-18-07 13:19pm
theshadow, I think it's best if you play
out the game on your own terms and not bow
to any propaganda going on in your head.
As you said it yourself, the voices don't
like the fact that you're in anthropology
- it undermines their credibility. No one
and no religion has exclusive power when
it comes to good and bad, certainly not
Christianity.
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BigDaddyPrimetime
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Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 49
Posted: 03-22-07 19:35pm
Seriously if hell exists it probably isnt
all that bad. At least its warm. I think
the bible exaggerates when they say you
spend eternity in hell and theres no way
out. Maybe you just spend a few thousand
years down there and your free to go.
There has to be some sort of get out of
hell free card. Although I wouldnt be
kissing satans ass for a thousand years to
get released early. I'll do my time.
If you do spend eternity in hell well
medical question it. Might take a few
million years to get used to it but in the
long run it'll be like home. Personally
though I dont believe in all that caca. I
think we all go to the same place when we
die.
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Schizomind
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Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 2
Posted: 03-23-07 03:38am
The voices are there for real shuffling
their cards in their own way.
I can tell because i keep experiencing
identical incidents you describe, problem
is these spiritual entities want to cause
havoc in your mind and eventually make you
do their filthy bidding; induce chaos.
Chances are you are possessed rather than
damned. Christianity won't help you at
all. Nor any religion will. These voices
"will be there" for you, tickling,
manipulating and probably derailing you
from discovering your true objective in
life, more than a mission that is.
I would avoid taking drugs altogether and
experiment with pneumatic hypnosis so
to harmonize with yourself and pursue your
objective in this life. I can feel you.
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BigDaddyPrimetime
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Posted: 03-24-07 21:23pm
Heres a good example of this. She was born
into a heavily catholic family just like
nearly every other demonic possession case
recorded throughout history. Maybe this is
a sign of how real thoughts can be and how
powerful the human mind is. I have no
doubt schizophrenia can be that extreme.
She tore ligments from standing on her
knees and jumping to her feet. She bit
birds heads off, ate insects and all sorts
of crazy caca.
From what I read most schizophrenics have
hallucinations of things they believe. It
doesnt just come from nowhere. If you dont
believe in demons or ghosts it will be the
CIA or the FBI thats after you. If you
dont care about law enforcement it will be
microscopic germs or insects and things
like that.
Thats just one of my theories though. It
makes a whole load of sense in my case
judging from experimentation.
