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would you support a bill for gay marriage?

yes
no

73% [ 36 ]

26% [ 13 ]

Total Votes : 49

billygan on January 23rd, 2007

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Addendum.... In regards to my last post remember the bible was written by men.

Bridget replied on January 23rd, 2007

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billygan wrote:

i think comedian lewis black puts it best in one of his routines when he states that when the bible was written mankind was very uneducated and pretty much lived just slightly better than animals. The part about marraige being between a man and a woman wasn't litteral but was meant in the sense that in those days a man would have tried to marry his favorite camel or sheep if they would have let him.

that's a lot like the letter michael moore wrote to Dr. Laura. I think it's funny but believers in the bible might find it offensive. I'd like to post it but if anyone is bothered by it i'll remove it.

dear Dr. Laura,

thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding god’s law. I have learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him the bible clearly states it to be an abomination (lev. 18:22) ..... End of debate !

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some specific laws and how to best follow them as a true believer.

When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the lord (lev.1:9). The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. How should I deal with this?

I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in the bible (exod. 21:7). In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.

The bible also states that I may buy slaves from the nations that are around us (lev. 25:44). A friend of mine claims that this applies to mexicans but not canadians. Can you clarify?

I have a neighbour who insists on working on the sabbath. The bible clearly states he should be put to death (exod. 35:2). Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

My friend practices the wiccan religion. Since the bible states that he must be put to death (exodus 22:18), am I morally obligated to kill him as well?

A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this?

The bible states that I may not approach the altar of god if I have a defect in my sight (lev. 21:21-23). I have to admit that I wear prescription glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

I need to do some business on the island of crete soon but the bible states that people from the island of crete are liars and lazy (titus 1:12). Should I be careful when doing business there?

I read amnesty international is in thailand protesting the selling of under-aged girls into slavery and prostitution. Should I write my congressmen and request that we encourage these young girls to obey their masters as it states in the bible (eph. 6:5)?

Should I have the foreskin of my penis cut off? The bible commands that all men must do this (exod. 12:48). I would have my doctor do it but I think I can save some money by doing it myself. Any ideas on how best to do it?

At the church I attend, some women lead a bible study. What is the best way to tell them to shut up? We must not have women speaking in church when the bible forbids them to (1 timothy 2:12).

Many of the women in our church wear jewelery. Since women are forbidden to wear jewelery (1 peter 3:3) what is the best way to tell them god is going to torture them in hell for eternity for doing so?

I want to obey the bible and greet all the women at our church with a kiss (2 thess. 1:26). Why do I get strange looks from them when I do - especially from their husbands? What about french kissing?

Recently, I have asked several women in my church to marry me since it is permissible for a man to have many wives (1 kings 11:3). Why do I continually get rejected? People at church are beginning to talk.

I suppose I will not get married since the bible states that men should not marry (1 cor. 7:1). What do you suggest?

There are many unbelievers where I work and because we are forbidden to associate with them (1 cor. 4:11). I am wondering how best to tell them to keep away from me.

Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by lev 19:27. How should they die?

I know from lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

My uncle has a farm. He violates lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of
getting the whole town together to stone them? (lev 24:10-16) couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (lev. 20:14)

i know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident that you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that god’s word is eternal and unchanging.

foxy replied on January 23rd, 2007

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billygan wrote:

in those days a man would have tried to marry his favorite camel or sheep if they would have let him.

lol

lil_blaze2004 replied on January 23rd, 2007

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That's hilarious bridg! I'd never seen that!

I love michael moore!

billygan replied on January 23rd, 2007

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After looking at my last posts some of you may not believe me when I say I am an ordained minister of the christian faith. I believe jesus christ is my lord and savior and I preach this in a more modern way. I thought the posting of the michael moore letter was funny and spot on. The bible needs to be taken in the spirit it was written not literally. Besides my research has found that allot of the "rules" in the bible actually started as local rules from certain areas written by village elders or priests in a specific manner to apply to those people at that time. Out dated laws if you will that have nothing to do with modern life. Also thank you for posting that iheartmybostonterrier I had never seen that before.

Melissa_20 replied on January 23rd, 2007

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foxy wrote:

people who believe in .God and follow his teachings and rules etc. Believe that being gay is a choice, its not how you were born its how you choose to live.

you don't have to believe in the bible to think someone was born gay in my eyes.

foxy wrote:

you think that gay people are born that way because even though you believe in .God, it si obvious from your statement above that you don't believe in the .Bible, which is the word and teachings of .God.

If you also believed in the .Bible then you would believe that it is a choice to be gay.

not true

oh yeah,that was hilarious bridget! Lmao

arcadia replied on January 23rd, 2007

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It's hard because there are *so* many different denominations of the .Christian faith.. & .There are so many different views & opinions about the .Bible & how it should be interpreted & whatnot. You can put two .Christians next to eachother &one could say s/he fully supports gay marriage &maybe even *is* gay (yet a fullblown practicing .Christian), &then have another who believes that it is a sin &would view the other as not being a .Christian because of it. I think organized, practiced religion is ridiculous. Religion is a state of mind, & a very personal matter, ya know?

foxy replied on January 23rd, 2007

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melissa_20 wrote:

foxy wrote:

people who believe in .God and follow his teachings and rules etc. Believe that being gay is a choice, its not how you were born its how you choose to live.

you don't have to believe in the bible to think someone was born gay in my eyes.

foxy wrote:

not true

in my opinion, either you believe in the .Bible and its teachings or you don't..........

Melissa_20 replied on January 23rd, 2007

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foxy wrote:

melissa_20 wrote:

foxy wrote:

people who believe in .God and follow his teachings and rules etc. Believe that being gay is a choice, its not how you were born its how you choose to live.

you don't have to believe in the bible to think someone was born gay in my eyes.

foxy wrote:

not true

in my opinion, either you believe in the .Bible and its teachings or you don't..........

where in the bible does it say being gay is a sin?

lil_blaze2004 replied on January 23rd, 2007

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Ok before this gets out of hand on the whole religion thing, i'm locking it.

Thanks for everyone's input!!

Kia replied on January 23rd, 2007

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melissa_20 wrote:

where in the bible does it say being gay is a sin?

this site list some instances
http://ww w.Religioustolerance.Org/hom_bibl.Htm

and this
http://www.Contender ministries.Org/articles/christianliving/ho mosexuality.Php

and these
http://w ww.Carm.Org/questions/homosexuality.Htm

http://www.Carm.Org/ques tions/homosexuality.Htm wrote:

lev. 18:22, "you shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

lev. 20:13, "if there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

1 cor. 6:9-10, "or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of god? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of god."

rom. 1:26-28, "for this reason god gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28and just as they did not see fit to acknowledge god any longer, god gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

lil_blaze2004 replied on January 23rd, 2007

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Upon carefull reconsideration (and a few requests) we have unlocked this. Please keep it mature and if it gets rude at all it will be locked by kia or myself asap.

Thanks!

Melissa_20 replied on January 23rd, 2007

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lil_blaze2004 wrote:

upon carefull reconsideration (and a few requests) we have unlocked this. Please keep it mature and if it gets rude at all it will be locked by kia or myself asap.

Thanks!

tank you vedy mush.I didn't expect it to get nasty!

Kia replied on January 23rd, 2007

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Haha I think I speak for both myself and jess on this...
We *expect* it to get nasty but we *hope* that it won't Wink

michelle1981 replied on January 23rd, 2007

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iheartmybostonterrier wrote:

i will never understand the argument that they *chose* to be gay. I honestly can't even wrap my head around it, it just doesn't make sense to me.

I didn't choose to be straight. I'm not attracted to women, I am attracted to men, therefore i'm heterosexual.

So wouldn't that be the same as a gay man not being attracted to women but he is attracted to men? Therefore he's homosexual?

When people say they choose to be gay are they saying they're choosing not to ignore their true feelings and pretending to be straight?

I probably don't even make sense right now but I really don't get it. I can't even put my confusion into words.

you make complete sense! That's how I see it!

They actually had a poll in the gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender relationships forum, last year some time. The question was "are you gay by default or is it a choice?"

tdr replied on January 23rd, 2007

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Because .Bridget started the topic, and she's from .New .Hampshire, I am assuming we're discussing gay marriage legislation in the .U.S.A.
The .United .States government is a democracy, and we're the "land of the free" because this is where people would come to escape religious persecution. The entire existence of this nation is based on the concept of the seperation of .Church and .State, which is why .I find this whole arguement so silly. Civil unions are legal in some states, but not others, which makes them void in any state that does not recognize a civil union as a legally binding contract between a man and a man or a woman and a woman that entitles them to most of the same rights of heterosexual married couples. Homosexual couples are married in some states, but not in others, making things such as life insurance or next of kin quite difficult to sort out if one partner were to die. A grey area, or legal limbo, if you will.
If our lawmakers would realize that because this is .America and we're supposed to be seperating church and state, there would be no need for an arguement about this issue, because in the eyes of the law, religious beliefs of legislators should have no bearing on their vote.

Magical Logic replied on January 23rd, 2007

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Legisalators and lawmakers need to deal with more importanat issues then gay marriage.

wilddonkey replied on January 23rd, 2007

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I love this website :d

Nataliachick7 replied on January 23rd, 2007

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chase4 wrote:

legisalators and lawmakers need to deal with more importanat issues then gay marriage.

okay...Der. But this is still an issue that needs to be addressed. No one said there arent more important issues. Im sure the "more important" ones are being worked on. Because they are more important it takes longer to fix them.

Kia replied on January 23rd, 2007

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Ladies - 5 pages without cross words - let's keep it going

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