Pregnancy Community Chat Forum - Gay Marriage Poll page 7

nightangel73 on January 23rd, 2007

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foxy wrote:

its scary because the line between church and state is becoming blurred...What is going to happen if they become totally integrated again like hundreds of years ago....It means that the law will then only benefit the dominant religion (roman catholic).......

it's not going to happen. At least not in america. That would cause a civil war! That would work in a perfect society but definetly that won't work in a society where people want to do whatever they want like america is. From what we are seeing a number of states already have gay marriage laws and employeers more and more are giving benefits to domestic partners. Also since 1973 we are having abortions legal in all states so no it doesn't look at all that we are going into any direction of integrating church and state but actually to separate it more and more.

What happens is that many people (with or without religion) still find gay marriage disgusting so doesn't matter if gay marriage is approved in every state or country of the world it will always have people criticizing it.

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Bridget replied on January 24th, 2007

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nightangel73 wrote:

what happens is that many people (with or without religion) still find gay marriage disgusting so doesn't matter if gay marriage is approved in every state or country of the world it will always have people criticizing it.

i don't think that gay people will care if some people still aren't cool with them, as long as they're able to marry and live equally.

Of course not everyone will agree with their choices. Some people still think interracial marriages are wrong. I don't think there will ever be a time when 100% of the population is for it, which is sad but true.

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Melissa_20 replied on January 24th, 2007

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iheartmybostonterrier wrote:

nightangel73 wrote:

what happens is that many people (with or without religion) still find gay marriage disgusting so doesn't matter if gay marriage is approved in every state or country of the world it will always have people criticizing it.

i don't think that gay people will care if some people still aren't cool with them, as long as they're able to marry and live equally.

Of course not everyone will agree with their choices. Some people still think interracial marriages are wrong. I don't think there will ever be a time when 100% of the population is for it, which is sad but true.

i totally agree.This shouldn't even be an issue really.Just let them marry and be happy.Who the hell are they hurting?

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nightangel73 replied on January 24th, 2007

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melissa_20 wrote:

i totally agree.This shouldn't even be an issue really.Just let them marry and be happy.Who the hell are they hurting?

yeah, once they discover marriage they will divorce just like the heterosexuals do lol! Specially men gay marriages since men are not monogamous by nature. Laughing

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tdr replied on January 24th, 2007

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nightangel73 wrote:

melissa_20 wrote:

i totally agree.This shouldn't even be an issue really.Just let them marry and be happy.Who the hell are they hurting?

yeah, once they discover marriage they will divorce just like the heterosexuals do lol! Specially men gay marriages since men are not monogamous by nature. Laughing

okay, .I'm not a man and .I take offense to that. Many men are able to respect a relationship and remain monogamous. Ask most of the married women on here and they'll probably tell you that their husbands have been faithful. There .A.R.E some men (like my own father, unfortunately) who don't grasp the "'til death do us part" thing, and cheat, but that is an unfair stereotype.
That being said, what does it matter if gay couples divorce? If straight couples can, why can't homosexuals?

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Sandbox Party replied on January 24th, 2007

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My brother in law is gay, (even tho I still think its a stage...) and if he wants to get married to the guy he's with, good.

Honestly, I used to be totally against it. I'd go into a million reasons why.

But then I sat back and realized..

Who am I to judge ones happiness?

So, its ok with me. Smile

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jessesgirl replied on January 24th, 2007

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tdr wrote:

nightangel73 wrote:

melissa_20 wrote:

i totally agree.This shouldn't even be an issue really.Just let them marry and be happy.Who the hell are they hurting?

yeah, once they discover marriage they will divorce just like the heterosexuals do lol! Specially men gay marriages since men are not monogamous by nature. Laughing

okay, .I'm not a man and .I take offense to that. Many men are able to respect a relationship and remain monogamous. Ask most of the married women on here and they'll probably tell you that their husbands have been faithful. There .A.R.E some men (like my own father, unfortunately) who don't grasp the "'til death do us part" thing, and cheat, but that is an unfair stereotype.

i agree!

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Magical Logic replied on January 24th, 2007

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tdr wrote:

nightangel73 wrote:

melissa_20 wrote:

i totally agree.This shouldn't even be an issue really.Just let them marry and be happy.Who the hell are they hurting?

yeah, once they discover marriage they will divorce just like the heterosexuals do lol! Specially men gay marriages since men are not monogamous by nature. Laughing

okay, .I'm not a man and .I take offense to that. Many men are able to respect a relationship and remain monogamous. Ask most of the married women on here and they'll probably tell you that their husbands have been faithful. There .A.R.E some men (like my own father, unfortunately) who don't grasp the "'til death do us part" thing, and cheat, but that is an unfair stereotype.

That being said, what does it matter if gay couples divorce? If straight couples can, why can't homosexuals?

there are enough straight people killing each other and their kids over divorces.Oh great then we would have gay people killing each other over divorces

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tdr replied on January 24th, 2007

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Chase, I have held my tongue this entire time at the risk of sounding like a total bit(h, but I have been up for the past two days studying for midterms and exhaustion has finally gotten the better of me.
You are being competely and totally unreasonable. You are so wrapped up in your own opinion that you refuse to see the validity in anyone else's.

chase4 wrote:

there are enough straight people killing each other and their kids over divorces.Oh great then we would have gay people killing each other over divorces

that does not theoretically or logically make any sense as a reason for why gay marriage should not be legalized. I'm sure if the breakup rate of gay couples who would have been married for years if it were legal would be just as great as the rate of divorce among straight married couples. This, however, is a statistic that is not kept because there isn't a federal agency that is required to do so. I'm sure these breakups are just as bitter and drawn out (if child or property custody is involved) as any divorce of a straight couple.
And honestly, who knows? Maybe gay couples are less likely to breakup/divorce. We don't know that to be true, nor do we know it to be untrue.
I am more than willing to listen to your opinion and take your arguement into consideration. That is, if you base it with logic and fact instead of apparently homophobic dribble.

Kia/jess, feel free to delete this if .I've crossed the line.

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Magical Logic replied on January 24th, 2007

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I dont have to see any of the validation in any othe person's opinion. Thats just my opinion and I am not changing my opinion to make any one happy. I dont have a problem with gay ppl. If one was standing next to me I would not say eww get away. And I never said that was the only reason gay ppl should not get married.I dont care if you dont like my opinion there is no reason to start acting like a health forum.

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Kathy1953 replied on January 24th, 2007

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Gay Marriage

No because it goes against god, equal rights is fine as long as it follows gods word.

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nightangel73 replied on January 24th, 2007

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tdr wrote:

chase, I have held my tongue this entire time at the risk of sounding like a total bit(h, but I have been up for the past two days studying for midterms and exhaustion has finally gotten the better of me.

You are being competely and totally unreasonable. You are so wrapped up in your own opinion that you refuse to see the validity in anyone else's.

chase4 wrote:

there are enough straight people killing each other and their kids over divorces.Oh great then we would have gay people killing each other over divorces

that does not theoretically or logically make any sense as a reason for why gay marriage should not be legalized. I'm sure if the breakup rate of gay couples who would have been married for years if it were legal would be just as great as the rate of divorce among straight married couples. This, however, is a statistic that is not kept because there isn't a federal agency that is required to do so. I'm sure these breakups are just as bitter and drawn out (if child or property custody is involved) as any divorce of a straight couple.
And honestly, who knows? Maybe gay couples are less likely to breakup/divorce. We don't know that to be true, nor do we know it to be untrue.
I am more than willing to listen to your opinion and take your arguement into consideration. That is, if you base it with logic and fact instead of apparently homophobic dribble.

Kia/jess, feel free to delete this if .I've crossed the line.

look my brother was gay and my future brother in law is gay (i'm plagued by gays) and they break up as much as heterosexuals, gosh my brother had like 5 different steady relationships that broke up that I knew of. They are the same, they cheat, the use each other, they fake relationships all the same like heterosexuals do. The last bf of my brother was with my brother for his money, he broke with him when he found that out. So with marriage oh you better believe it will be just more divorce statistics. But oh well that's okay if that is what they want. Let them have the piece of paper.

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tdr replied on January 24th, 2007

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nightangel73 wrote:

tdr wrote:

chase, I have held my tongue this entire time at the risk of sounding like a total bit(h, but I have been up for the past two days studying for midterms and exhaustion has finally gotten the better of me.

You are being competely and totally unreasonable. You are so wrapped up in your own opinion that you refuse to see the validity in anyone else's.

chase4 wrote:

there are enough straight people killing each other and their kids over divorces.Oh great then we would have gay people killing each other over divorces

that does not theoretically or logically make any sense as a reason for why gay marriage should not be legalized. I'm sure if the breakup rate of gay couples who would have been married for years if it were legal would be just as great as the rate of divorce among straight married couples. This, however, is a statistic that is not kept because there isn't a federal agency that is required to do so. I'm sure these breakups are just as bitter and drawn out (if child or property custody is involved) as any divorce of a straight couple.
And honestly, who knows? Maybe gay couples are less likely to breakup/divorce. We don't know that to be true, nor do we know it to be untrue.
I am more than willing to listen to your opinion and take your arguement into consideration. That is, if you base it with logic and fact instead of apparently homophobic dribble.

Kia/jess, feel free to delete this if .I've crossed the line.

look my brother was gay and my future brother in law is gay (i'm plagued by gays) and they break up as much as heterosexuals, gosh my brother had like 5 different steady relationships that broke up that I knew of. They are the same, they cheat, the use each other, they fake relationships all the same like heterosexuals do. The last bf of my brother was with my brother for his money, he broke with him when he found that out. So with marriage oh you better believe it will be just more divorce statistics. But oh well that's okay if that is what they want. Let them have the piece of paper.

.You're "plagued" by gays? According to dictionary.Com, "to plague" means:
3. Any widespread affliction, calamity, or evil, esp. One regarded as a direct punishment by god: a plague of war and desolation.
4. Any cause of trouble, annoyance, or vexation: uninvited guests are a plague.
–verb (used with object) to annoy, or torment in any manner: the question of his future plagues him with doubt.
6. To annoy, bother, or pester: ants plagued the picnickers.
7. To smite with a plague, pestilence, death, etc.; scourge: those whom the gods had plagued.

I'm not sure how any of those fit in the context in which you've used the word. But your "case study," as it were, covers only one man and his many relationships. By no stretch of the imagination are all gay me like that. I've been involved with musical theatre since I was 5, and that was 10 years ago. My dance teacher has been the same man for the past ten years. He happens to be gay. He has also been with the same man, his life partner, for just as long. They've had their tiffs, like any straight couple would, but they're still together. Why shouldn't they be allowed to get married?

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justacanadiangirl replied on January 25th, 2007

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I voted yes. I believe marriage is about love not about what gender u are, and i'm not religious so I don't think it has to do with that either. In my opinion, marriage is about love and trust and having a special bond between two ppl.

Also I have a very good friend who is gay and whose sister is bisexual. And two aunts who are gay (the two aunts are married) as well as numerous co-workers of mine over the past few years. I think they should all be able to have to same rights we do. They are still ppl! They still have families. They deserve full rights.

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Jules replied on January 25th, 2007

Moderator

Re: Gay Marriage

kathy1953 wrote:

no because it goes against god, equal rights is fine as long as it follows gods word.

oh so that's all good as long as you are a white, straight male then... Confused

I'm totally for gay marriage. I believe gay people should have equal rights with straight people.

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Kia replied on January 25th, 2007

Supporter

Re: Gay Marriage

kathy1953 wrote:

no because it goes against god, equal rights is fine as long as it follows gods word.

woah, steady, girl.

Pretty much everyone agrees that church and state should be separate and that gay "marriage" should be in the eyes of the law not the church.

But please do not cast everyone under your own religious beliefs.
This is a multi national board (although predominantly usa, canada and uk).

Your statement only applies to people of the christian faith.
What are you going to do? Stone the rest of us who do not practise the same faith?

I'm all for people having religion if it fits them - just don't push your ideas on me and cast me in there. Ok.

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nightangel73 replied on January 25th, 2007

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tdr wrote:

nightangel73 wrote:

tdr wrote:

chase, I have held my tongue this entire time at the risk of sounding like a total bit(h, but I have been up for the past two days studying for midterms and exhaustion has finally gotten the better of me.

You are being competely and totally unreasonable. You are so wrapped up in your own opinion that you refuse to see the validity in anyone else's.

chase4 wrote:

there are enough straight people killing each other and their kids over divorces.Oh great then we would have gay people killing each other over divorces

that does not theoretically or logically make any sense as a reason for why gay marriage should not be legalized. I'm sure if the breakup rate of gay couples who would have been married for years if it were legal would be just as great as the rate of divorce among straight married couples. This, however, is a statistic that is not kept because there isn't a federal agency that is required to do so. I'm sure these breakups are just as bitter and drawn out (if child or property custody is involved) as any divorce of a straight couple.
And honestly, who knows? Maybe gay couples are less likely to breakup/divorce. We don't know that to be true, nor do we know it to be untrue.
I am more than willing to listen to your opinion and take your arguement into consideration. That is, if you base it with logic and fact instead of apparently homophobic dribble.

Kia/jess, feel free to delete this if .I've crossed the line.

look my brother was gay and my future brother in law is gay (i'm plagued by gays) and they break up as much as heterosexuals, gosh my brother had like 5 different steady relationships that broke up that I knew of. They are the same, they cheat, the use each other, they fake relationships all the same like heterosexuals do. The last bf of my brother was with my brother for his money, he broke with him when he found that out. So with marriage oh you better believe it will be just more divorce statistics. But oh well that's okay if that is what they want. Let them have the piece of paper.

.You're "plagued" by gays? According to dictionary.Com, "to plague" means:
3. Any widespread affliction, calamity, or evil, esp. One regarded as a direct punishment by god: a plague of war and desolation.
4. Any cause of trouble, annoyance, or vexation: uninvited guests are a plague.
–verb (used with object) to annoy, or torment in any manner: the question of his future plagues him with doubt.
6. To annoy, bother, or pester: ants plagued the picnickers.
7. To smite with a plague, pestilence, death, etc.; scourge: those whom the gods had plagued.

I'm not sure how any of those fit in the context in which you've used the word. But your "case study," as it were, covers only one man and his many relationships. By no stretch of the imagination are all gay me like that. I've been involved with musical theatre since I was 5, and that was 10 years ago. My dance teacher has been the same man for the past ten years. He happens to be gay. He has also been with the same man, his life partner, for just as long. They've had their tiffs, like any straight couple would, but they're still together. Why shouldn't they be allowed to get married?

you didn't read well. I said they will divorce as much as heterosexual do. Of course not all will divorce just like heterosexuals not all divorce. They breakup for the same reasons heterosexuals do. Marriage if you don't mean it to be a god sacrament it's just only a piece of paper that bounds you to legal benefits. It doesn't make any relationship last longer.

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Melissa_20 replied on January 25th, 2007

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chase4 wrote:

tdr wrote:

nightangel73 wrote:

melissa_20 wrote:

i totally agree.This shouldn't even be an issue really.Just let them marry and be happy.Who the hell are they hurting?

yeah, once they discover marriage they will divorce just like the heterosexuals do lol! Specially men gay marriages since men are not monogamous by nature. Laughing

that being said, what does it matter if gay couples divorce? If straight couples can, why can't homosexuals?

there are enough straight people killing each other and their kids over divorces.Oh great then we would have gay people killing each other over divorces

so who cares?Strait people can do it.It's no different than a normal divorce. At least there wont be any children involved right?*(in most cases)

i really don't understand why this is such a big issue.If you don't like gay all in all (ex:marriage,divorce etc...),and it bothers you,you don't have to like it and you don't have to look.If it doesn't concern you then you shouldn't care.

**edited to make the above clearer! Laughing

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foxy replied on January 25th, 2007

Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy

Re: Gay Marriage

kia_breizzze wrote:

kathy1953 wrote:

no because it goes against god, equal rights is fine as long as it follows gods word.

woah, steady, girl.

But please do not cast everyone under your own religious beliefs.

This is a multi national board (although predominantly usa, canada and uk).

Your statement only applies to people of the christian faith.

What are you going to do? Stone the rest of us who do not practise the same faith?.

i disagree with you .Kia, cause I am of the christian faith and I also think that what she said is rubbish. Equal rights in a country has nothing to do with following .God's word. And if she really wants to go there, .God also says love thy neighbour as you love yourself....So basically it is saying treat others how you would want to be treated.

What I am saying may seem contridictory to some because I believe that being gay is a sin, but believing that means that .I will never act on any kind of sexual feelings towards the opposite sex and I will raise my kids with that belief.....But after my kids turn 18 they can do what they want. Who am I to judge someone for what they want to do...And who am I to force my beliefs on someone and tell them that there are certain things they cannot do?

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Kia replied on January 25th, 2007

Supporter

Hey steady.

Everyone is allowed an opinion - we don't all have to agree gay marriage is right - let's not put people down for it.
Some of our old time regulars are against it because of their own personal beliefs. That's cool.

What isn't cool is tarring everyone with one brush or making everyone have to have the same opinions.

Post is now on probabation to locksville if it is just going to be full or agrumentative comments.

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