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I have a severe case of premature ejacualtion for 10 years now. It's been ruining my sex life. So I gotta try new things...I guess.
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replied January 21st, 2007
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Re: I Am Trying This Out For Premature Ejaculation.
nyc216 wrote:
http://www.Advancedmedicine.Com

i never tryied it before, but it seems convincing. Have any of you tried this site out before. I have a severe case of premature ejacualtion for 10 years now. It's been ruining my sex life. So I gotta try new things...I guess. This site offers some medication and it's pretty expensive , but they say it guaramtee to work. So i'll give it a try. Has anyone try or know about it?


nope, i've never even heard of it. Though, it sounds a lot like boston medical group, other than that bmg has clinics for you to go to and take tests and talk to you. But they basically dispense meds at a markup and I don't know what they do for p.E., but i've read that they give you something to inject directly into your penis for erectile dysfunction.

Let us know what the meds are, how much they cost, and how well they work.
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replied January 25th, 2007
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Too bad they only offer services in the us,
has anyone ever talked about pe to their family doctor?? What can he do about it? Its not like there are precription drugs he can give you to help(except ssri's)
thanks for any input
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replied January 25th, 2007
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If you talk with your doctor about he may take some tests or send you to a urologist for tests. The tests may check for underlying problems such as with the prostate, not necessarily tests that have to do with pe itself.

As for treatment, it'd probably be pc exercises, psychotherapy, stop-start instructions, squeeze technique instructions, a prescription for antidepressants, or a combination there of.

There are some drugs in the pipeline specifically for pe, but I wouldn't know when they're coming out. And as far as what i've read they work along the same lines as ssri's just not as strong or exactly the same.

I chatted with someone at the site in the original post to ask some q's. They work really hard to not answer anything and get you to call. But since i'm not particularly interested in drugs I kept at it. I asked what combination of medicines they use, if they're antidepressants, etc. They skirted around it. Since they wouldn't answer what drugs they used, I asked what are the original purposes of the drugs they use since there are no drugs specifically for pe. They said that it is for pe specifically, so I don't know what they're selling. Maybe mix ingredients? Either that or they just lie and avoid answers repeatedly trying to get you to call.
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replied January 25th, 2007
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Ok, I gave them a call and found some more info on what the drug is. They want your information to start a file, but I refused stating i'm only looking for information. After talking to one person who said she didn't have the information, but said it was a compound drug and to talk to a nurse that would know, i'd have to give my information. I refused and was sent to the manager, he tried the same thing, but again I refused and finally got to the nurse.

The drug is clomipramine, an ssri antidepressant. I asked if this was the only drug, she said yes. So they are indeed trying to mislead people. It is not a compound drug, and it is an antidepressant. I asked that several times in the chat, but they skirted around it, now we know why.

It's given in a lower dose than if you were to take it for depression or anxiety. They state premature ejaculation is a medical condition and is not caused by anxiety or depression (though it seems every other doctor says it's psychological. I think it can be both). The medicine isn't to treat depression, but rather to lower the hypersensitivity of the glans. Now i've been on an ssri before and it certainly reduces sensitivity. In fact before the ssri I did not have pe, while on the ssri I was practically inorgasmic through intercourse, and it wasn't until I stopped taking it that I ever had problems with pe. So i'm certain the medication they are selling will work and at the lower dose i'm sure it's much safer with few side effects. Then they will talk to you throughout your treatment to adjust dosage if necessary, etc. Unfortunately, the phone call was cut off abruptly so I couldn't get more info. I wonder if they hung up on me. I don't know what dosage they give, but looking at the usual dosage for depression it would have to be lower than 25mg. Treatment usually lasts 6 months, but can be longer or shorter.

So nyc216, it'd be nice if you could give more information about dosage, effectiveness, and what the program offers other than just the medication.

It's not likely something i'd try, because i'm for the most part anti-drug and anti antidpressant.
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replied January 25th, 2007
Well I actually decided to change my mind and go to a urologist that specialize in premature ejaculation. I feel that I would get treated better there. The reason I changed was that advance medicine said there treatment cures the problem, but there ingrediants consists of clomipramine and levitra. Which I don't understand how will that cure the problem cause doctors offer the same thing. Also advance medicine charges $175 for a 6 month treatment which totals about $1050. I feel that I could get that type of prescription going to a doctor myself. And also you don't even know who there doctors are, there background nothing. Now I have to call next week to get my refund of $175 I paid for agreeing to go through the treatment...Damn I need to fix my pe problem. Does anyone know how long does ssri's delay ejacualtion time?
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replied January 25th, 2007
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I was gonna mention the price, but I didn't want to upset you. You can get 6 months of clomipramine for less than half of one month with advanced medicine. Plus, I didn't know what other types of support they offer. Being that they skirt questions and mislead (which is understandable since they truly aren't offering anything unique) I wouldn't necessarily trust them if they said their "program" offered more support than just having dosage adjusted. Sounds like they're just a group that marks up prescription drugs not designed for pe, by making people think they have something specifically for pe. Which they don't, yet that's what they tried to sell me when I was asking questions in chat.

Reading up on clomipramine it is one of the most common antidepressants prescribed for pe, so doctors can provide the same drug.

They add levitra too, eh? They didn't tell me that, but maybe it was because I was asking about pe only.

I can't tell you how long an ssri might delay your ejaculation. It depends on the drug, the dose, the person and how their body reacts. The dose will usually be lower than what you'd take for depression or anxiety and sometimes it's a "when needed" treatment as opposed to daily. I can tell you that when I was on an ssri (effexor) I could go hours without ejaculating, but that was at full (lowest dose of 75mg I believe) and daily dosing. With proper stimulation and my mind geared towards ejaculating I could do it sooner though. Don't flex your pc and you can go longer. I flex my pc when I want to ejaculate. How long it'd be delayed at pe doses, I wouldn't know.

Let us know how it goes at the specialist and what he/she recommended or prescribed.
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replied January 26th, 2007
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Hey, thanks for your undercover work healtysex Laughing and thanks for your info nyc. Its a real pain in the ass having this problem and you guys sound just as determined as me to get rid of it. As for me im going to see a sexologist today and see if that helps, im also going to talk to my doctor about it next month and see if that opens up any interesting venues.
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replied January 27th, 2007
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No problem pom. Let us know about what the sexologist says.

Nyc, do you know more about the dosing that advanced medicine was going to offer? I know it depends on the individual, but i'm sure there's only a few possibilities and they probably start everyone on the same dose other than if it's extreme. I checked online pharmacies and it seems that 10mg is probably the smallest dose. Though they say it's a compound, (you said it also has levitra, but the nurse made it sound like it was only clomipramine. I wonder if they actually combine the two in one pill, or if they just try to sell ed drugs to pe people for more money and to assist in confidence, etc.) so maybe they actually manufacture their own doses.

From the chat support, I was told that it's to be taken for a couple weeks daily, and then after that it only needs to be taken before performance. For single guys it would be taken a few times a week just to remain in the system and then before performance. Do you know more about this?
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replied February 5th, 2007
I Saw the Doctor For Pe
I saw my family doctor for my pe and he sent me to the specialist. He put me on zoloft. 25mg. It did last longer but I was still a bit dissapointed. I didn't get a chance to play with the dossage before she ended up filing for divorce. Sad life's a beach sometimes! Wink

sice I no longer have a partner, i'm off the meds for now, the side effects were really weird, extra sweating, sensitivity to caffeene, teeth chatter, and hands shaking, dry mouth. To go off them, he made me skip a day for 5 days (so 10 pills) and then stop all together. Now I just take 5-htp to help with the stress of work and the divorce, not sure if it will help with the pe or not, I suspect not hopefully one day soon I will get to find out with a new partner. Smile

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replied February 5th, 2007
How long did u last before zoloft? And how long did u last with zoloft?
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replied February 5th, 2007
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I stumbled across someone talking about pe when looking for a fitness club near me, and someone recommended getting his histamine levels checked. I googled a little and found:

"""the amino acid histidine also is found in maca root in high amounts. This amino acid plays an often-overlooked but important role in sexual function: during ejaculation and orgasm. The body utilizes histidine to produce histamine, and histamine in the corpus cavernosum (penile erectile tissue) ultimately is responsible for the way ejaculations happen. Men suffering from premature ejaculation often show increased histamine activity; they may be helped by a simple antihistamine, or the amino acid methionine (which counteracts the formation of histamine from histidine). This is the same mechanism that explains a side effect of prescription antihistamines - aorgasmia (or the inability/difficulty to achieve an orgasm). Conversely, men and women having difficulties achieving orgasms may be helped by histidine supplementation - this may increase histamine levels in the sexual tract, which in turn make orgasms and ejaculations easier. An additional pro-sexual effect of histidine (as well as arginine) may lie in its vasodilating effect, increasing blood flow to the sex organs. Again, the significant, natural histidine content of maca may have played a role in the rat studies reporting a greater number of copulations. But it does make one wonder - is the benefit of additional copulations at the expense of shorter duration and/or premature ejaculation? Surely this subject is best suited for truly independent (and not product-sponsored) research."""


just one more complicated piece to the ever growing puzzle.
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replied November 22nd, 2007
Boston Medical Group Is a Total Scam
i got shuffled from room to room, spots on the carpet and walls, the office was extremely dirty and most likely unsanitary.

whole place looked like one of those black market hospitals where they do illegal organ transplants

they promised male only but the receptionist was a female and her friend (her friend was possibly another employee.)

i was stupid and paid for it too. i feel really stupid for doing so and can't cancel either.

this lesson cost me $2000 total

their a scam, stay away from these people
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