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red72cup Extremely eHealthy
January 17th, 2007
There are a lot of pro life websites that do give inaccurate descriptions of abortion and what happens during the procedure.

Not only have I personally had 3 abortions, I work in a lcinic and have assisted with thousands of abortions. I can tell you that early abortion looks mainly like a poll of period blood, the limbs are not fully formed yet, so there is a huge dufference between a 20 week abortion and a 6 week abortion.

Abortion techniques are also different than what many pro life websites state. Saline abortion is an outdated and no longer performed procedure, but many pro life sites state that it is still done.\

if you would like great informaiton from abortion lcinics wesbites themselves..

Http://www.Gynpages.Com

this is a list of aboriton clinics and their websites.

D&e abortion, which is done after 16+ weeks, is more graphic than an early abortion, and those are the 'pictures' that they are trrying to scare you with.

They are showing you pics of an abortion that you would not even have :/

i work in a clinic, do you have any questions or anything?
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nightangel73
replied January 17th, 2007
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Caryfairy that is okay to say that at 6 weeks the fetus/embryo will look like this and that but here we see ladies that are performing abortions at 12 and 14 weeks as much as we hear having them at 6 or 8 weeks. All abortions are not only done at 6 weeks so yes the more the fetus has developed the more graphic, the more crushed limbs are expected to be seeing.
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jenn_smithson
replied January 17th, 2007
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nightangel73 wrote:
caryfairy that is okay to say that at 6 weeks the fetus/embryo will look like this and that but here we see ladies that are performing abortions at 12 and 14 weeks as much as we hear having them at 6 or 8 weeks.
no, we aren't. .The overwhelming, vast .M.A.J.O.R.I.T.Y of all abortions occurs at or before 8 weeks gestational age. .At this stage, the woman has only been pregnant for 4-6 weeks.

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all abortions are not only done at 6 weeks so yes the more the fetus has developed the more graphic, the more crushed limbs are expected to be seeing.
once again, the number of abortions performed at the later stages is very, very small and because most states have laws prohibiting later abortions, those abortions were necessary to either save the health or life of the .Woman or because an unfortunate defect was discovered in the fetus. .You have to have a documented reason to obtain an abortion so late. The .Women who obtain them are saving their health and life.

Again, let me just reiterate something that I have found about the pictures.

#1. Most of the more developed ones are of stillbirths and late miscarriages. in fact, one of the most popular ones (and one I see outside of my clinic on protest days), "malachai", has been reported, by the doctor who performed it as a stillbirth extraction. This was a very wanted pregnancy and the fetus unexpectedly died. The blood was not flowing to all of its limbs which is why they turned purple and black. The fetus had to be removed to protect the .Woman's life and health. It was photographed for a medical journal and report. Someone took the picture and began erroneously attempting to pass it off as an "abortion."

#2. The less developed pictures are usually photoshopped or completely false. the one that comes immediately to mind is the one with the tiny arm on/near the quarter. Based on the size of the quarter as a reference, a fetus' arm that small would not have fully formed fingers or skin. The "arm" in the photo does.

#3. Some pictures have been stolen and photoshopped anne geddes pictures. yes, the more "moral" "prolife" movement stole anne geddes' work and attempted to pass it off as an "abortion." several "prolife" websites have been reported for using her popular photographs without permission and for using them innappropriately.
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IfIWereNamedLOLA
replied January 17th, 2007
Thanks you for your clarification... (uh and debating?) I was quite upset when I posted my posts so I wasn't keeping an eyes on my wording. I am fully aware they were extremist pro-life not pro choice sites.

I want everyone to be aware that this main particular site were not
legitimate, educational, informative sites...
They played haunting music, had articles about waiting until your wedding night before having your first kiss, quotes about escaping hell and that if you have an abortion you and your unborn baby will go to hell, several full term babies stuffed in garbage bags, bloody vaginas with tiny hands, crushed faces, legs, etc. Falling out of the vagina into garbage bags, articles about how they have to cram baies down garbage disposals or if they are too big and not in seperate pieces trash compactors to dispose of their bodies at the clinics, warnings that clinics will sell your babies body parts, warnings that they will perform fake abortions on people who arent even pregnant for $, warnings that they wont tell you how far along you really are so they can abort a more fully developed baby, there was even an article by a supposed Dr. Who said he used to perform abortions until he held a clear sac in his hand with a tiny person swimming around in it doing somersaults and playing (i pictured a sea monkey's commercial...) he said it looked totally life like and real and fully developed, not like a tadpole, but once it died it changed form (okay? Like an animorph kids cartoon?) and looked like the pictures we see on real educational sites of pregnancies at this early stage...

Although some of the pictures may in fact have been real, I assume they were from illegal abortions, maybe in some other country (some captions listed things like "murder in so and so place" extremely small), or full term, they could have even been pictures of still born babies. The worst though were pictures of crushed, decapitated, baby heads stuck on a gloved fingers like finger puppets...

It doesn't matter anyhow, these were not ligitimate pictures to go off of in deciding on abortion.

*** I am not pregnant, I was 4 days late, that is all. Whew, I am so relieved I do not have to try and make some sort of decision. I think due to this scare though, I have come to the conclusion (not because of that site) that in my life right now an abortion wouldn't be necessary... So I will be extra careful to not get pregnant now that I know I might not be comfortable with having an abortion. Thanks all! Good luck and keep up with all your wonderful support!
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Jules
replied January 17th, 2007
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Shocked geez - there's some sick sh*t on the internet!

Glad you're not pregnant. Congratulations! Wink
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Tylanas
replied January 17th, 2007
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Oh we're so glad for you hun! Hugs!!
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Birch
replied January 17th, 2007
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Holy freaking speculum, .Batman! This is unbelieveable! I would love to take a look at these sites and use them in examples in research projects-lola, can you pm me these sites? Or anyone else? I guess I could look at them, but I want to use actual sites someone who may have been pregnant actually used to get information. Thank you!
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blue_snafu
replied January 23rd, 2007
Wow, I feel ridiculously lucky that in my research pre-abortion I didn't come across any of that sort of thing. I can't imagine what it would have done to my already strained nerves.

I'm glad you don't have to make an active decision lola. Take care of yourself Smile
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