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Should non-smokers be given priority over smokers when waiting for heart bypass surgury?
Yes
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 58%  [ 14 ]
Undecided
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 8%  [ 2 ]
No
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 33%  [ 8 ]
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Kia

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Location: Planet Tampaxia,

Posted: 01-16-07 17:00pm

spanky2005 wrote:
i am a smoker but I am trying to quit without success. Sometimes I quit for two weeks but then get back to it.
why?
Don't buy anymore and then you can't smoke them

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i dont think smokers should be discriminated against as far as being given less priority for heart surgery.
why?

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if the criteria for heart surgery is going to be peoples habits and/or other hereditary concerns then the following could be reasons too:

1) does the person drink a lot of alchohol
2) does the person have a history of other problems such as liver, thyroid etc.
3) does heart disease run in a persons family
4) how about diabetes.
yes, this was acknowleged but if those factors were identical in the two people in question but one had always smoked and the other never is the hypothetical question.

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if you consider smoking, then why not consider these other factors too?
because that would be a whole different essay - not covered by this one.

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i think everyone deserves equal consideration. It should only depend on how seriously they need the surgery and how critical the time factor is if surgery is postponed.
so if two people were identical - let's say clones and one smoked one lived in a clean air environment - the smoker has wilfully increased their risk - is that not so?
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Kia

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Posted: 01-16-07 17:04pm

dekkie wrote:
hi from the uk
well its a tricky question but heres a few other similar ones...

Should people who are dleiberatly fat becasue they insist on eating jumk food be given priority?

Heavy drinkers, should they be given priority over non drinkers?

Drug addicts...Where should they stand in the queue at a&e

people who self harm for sexual gratification...She they get priority over a kid who has hurt themself falling from a bike?

Why should people wanting a sex change be given priority over someone needing a new hip?

I have no answers...But some opinions (which I will kepp to myself)

just trying to open it up a little by playing the devils advocate
the point here is not to open it up or play devils advocate.

It is happily accepted that there are other concerns involved.

But the question revolves around smoking being the differing factor.
If all other factors were the same should the non-smoker take priority over the smoker?

It's not a discussion on how many different causes and factors of heart disease there are.

It's not a question of should a fit person on a healthy balanced diet take priority over the fat person (and how do you know the fat person doesn't eat healthy? S/he may have a thyroid condition).

It is simply based on the single factor (the only difference in the people in question) being the smoking.
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blulyneguy

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Joined: 09 Jan 2007
Posts: 334
Location: Idaho,
Preference?
Posted: 01-18-07 17:28pm

No preference should be given. Doctors revive killers and rapists in police custody just as they would joe blow off the street. Your opinion may differ, but a life is a life. I am not opposed to some "preferential" treatment for some medical issues (attempted suicides for example) but on this one, no. Everyone should have the same chance.
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