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10 Car Seats Fail Crash Test!
Posted: 01-09-07 12:24pm
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Consumer reports is known for taking
safety to the next level, and in its most
recent round of testing rear-facing,
infant car seats, it went beyond the
current federal safety standards for seat
performance in a collision. The
government tests seats in front crashes of
30 mph, but consumer reports simulated
front impacts of 35 mph and side impacts
of 38 mph (the same standards used for car
safety testing). The results in this more
stringent environment were dramatic, with
10 of the 12 seats either twisting too far
or coming out of their bases.
Consumer reports' testing also showed
serious failings in seats secured by the
latch system. The national highway
traffic and safety administration (nhtsa)
itself calls the latch system confusing
and consumer reports notes that the nhtsa
is planning a public hearing on the system
later this year.
Here's how the seats fared in consumer
reports' tests:
the good
baby trend flex-loc adjustable back
graco snugride with eps
the bad
chicco keyfit
peg perego primo viaggio sip
compass i410
evenflo embrace
britax companion
graco safeseat
safety 1st designer
combi centre st
evenflo discovery
eddie bauer comfort
what you can do:
read the full consumer reports safety
alert.
Tell us what you think of this news: take
our poll.
Visit our car seat safety bulletin board
to talk to other parents about this
issue.
Find a child safety seat inspection
station near you to make sure your seat is
fastened as securely as possible.
Check our infant car seat safety article
over the coming days for updates on this
issue as more information becomes
available.
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kezia333
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Posted: 01-09-07 14:00pm
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I just bought a chicco keyfit carseat,
should I return it?
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Eyes Wide Shut
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Posted: 01-09-07 14:03pm
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I mean, I would. Esp if I hadn't used it
yet.
But .Oni's in a front facing seat
(sometimes) so it's kinda late for me!
Sarah
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Sandbox Party
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Posted: 01-09-07 14:06pm
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Caitlyns is a snugride, so hers is one of
the two that passed. I couldnt see the
ratings for .Jacobs, the site wouldnt let
me without paying for a membership which I
thought was rediculous.
You can also google recalls on your
carseats to see if there are problems.
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Bridget
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Posted: 01-09-07 14:16pm
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| rainfire1424
wrote: | | the site wouldnt let me
without paying for a membership which I
thought was
rediculous. |
that's why they do this every year. They
want to scare you into paying for a
membership.
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 01-09-07 14:18pm
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*sigh* we use the .Evenflo .Discovery.
After reading that, I think we'll be
headed to the police station soon for an
inspection. 
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Nataliachick7
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Posted: 01-09-07 14:46pm
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| babymajic0506
wrote: | i mean, I would. Esp if I
hadn't used it yet.
But .Oni's in a front facing seat
(sometimes) so it's kinda late for me!
Sarah |
sarah, mike works at the fire department
and its my understanding that it is very
dangerous to have a baby under the age of
1 facing forward.
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Bridget
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Posted: 01-09-07 14:51pm
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| nataliachick7
wrote: | | babymajic0506
wrote: | i mean, I would. Esp if I
hadn't used it yet.
But .Oni's in a front facing seat
(sometimes) so it's kinda late for me!
Sarah |
sarah, mike works at the fire department
and its my understanding that it is very
dangerous to have a baby under the age of
1 facing
forward. |
i always thought it was the law that they
need to be rear-facing until they're 1
*and* 20 pounds (not one or the other).
Is it just a recommendation?
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Becky
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Posted: 01-09-07 16:20pm
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Over here a front facing car seat can be
used from 9 months but I don't really know
the laws on car seats.
Layla has a front facing one that turns
into a booster seat and logan still has a
rear facing one cause he's a titch but i'm
getting him a front facing one soon
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Posted: 01-09-07 17:01pm
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trey was in a forward car seat by 8 months
cause he was so big, he was squished the
other way. I asked a friend who works
for the saaq (the dmv) and she said if
they can sit properly and are over 20 lbs
then they can be in a front facing one.
I mean the kid was almost walking and
weighed over 25lbs! I couldn't keep him
in a infant one.
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Posted: 01-09-07 17:57pm
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Nat, I asked her dr about front facing
seats and he said "it depends on the
weight restrictions of the seat." her seat
is for 20 - 80lbs.
We only use it occasionally though. I
would love to wait till she's a year. But
there's no way. Her feet hang about 3
inches over her regular car seat. 
i'm paranoid though, so I think i'm gonna
return it and get a different one. This
one doesn't have much *lean* to it, so she
sits straight up, like she's on a roller
coaster. I don't want her to get car
sick...
Sarah
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Posted: 01-09-07 18:47pm
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I hear what you guys are saying because
brayden is in a front facing seat. I
think he'd be safer in that one then to be
in his regular carseat that he's way too
big for. They do have carseats that go up
to like 80lbs that go both forward and
backwards but when brayden is in his
backwards his feet get all scrunched up in
the seat. He is at 90% for his height so
he's really long.
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Posted: 01-09-07 19:02pm
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Oni too...That's why we put her in the
front facing.
It's waaay more comfy for her, and us. We
don't have to practically sit on the
dashboard when we get in the car!!!
Lol...
Sarah
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Posted: 01-09-07 19:18pm
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They're actually recommending you keep
them rear-facing for longer than a year
now. They can bend their legs or sit with
them indian-style to fit properly.
Finn's going to reach 20 pounds before
he's 1 but i'm still going to keep him
rear-facing until then and then i'll go
from there. I'd rather sit squished up by
the dashboard than compromise his
safety.
I'm not knocking anyone, i'm just saying
what i'm going to do.
To quote my new favorite phrase, "to each
their own"!
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Posted: 01-09-07 19:55pm
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It looks like we will be buying a new baby
car seat instead of using nathan's old one
(3 years old). I can't believe only two
passed!
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Posted: 01-09-07 19:58pm
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Ummm....Alright.
I think that if .Oni's Dr. Would have
told me "hell no! Don't do it till she's
1." I would wait. As he's an educated man
and knows what's best for my baby at this
point and time.
I've done research and that's the reason
why I limit the amount of time she spends
front facing.
I've tried to sit indian style for longer
than 10 mins, and my feet fall asleep from
lack of blood flow. You'd fell it'd be ok
to do the same to a baba? How comfy if
riding 45 mins indian syle??
To each their own...
Sarah
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Bridget
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Posted: 01-09-07 20:11pm
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Little kids are flexible. I'd rather
have his legs be a little stiff than have
him be seriously injured in an accident.
I've done my research too.
Http://www.Car-safety.Or
g/rearface.Html
and I said I wasn't knocking anyone else's
choices.
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Posted: 01-09-07 20:16pm
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Disclaimer: this is not directed to anyone
specifically, i'm posting it for everyone!
unfortunately, some carseat
advocates and even some pediatricians are
not fully aware of the important safety
benefits that rear-facing carseats
provide. Some still adhere to obsolete
recommendations from many years ago. In
fact, the policy statement from the
american academy of pediatrics says,
"children should face the rear of the
vehicle until they are at least 1 year of
age and weigh at least 20 lb to decrease
the risk of cervical spine injury in the
event of a crash. Infants who weigh 20
lb before 1 year of age should ride rear
facing in a convertible seat or infant
seat approved for higher weights until at
least 1 year of age. If a car safety
seat accommodates children rear facing to
higher weights, for optimal protection,
the child should remain rear facing until
reaching the maximum weight for the car
safety seat, as long as the top of the
head is below the top of the seat
back."
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Posted: 01-09-07 20:23pm
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This is good info you've given. I knew
about all of this prior to putting .Oni in
a front facing seat.
When I state that I do it occasionally, it
means that it's only used as means of
emergency. Ie, .Baron takes the car and I
need to leave the house for a Dr.S appt.
I will, though, continue to have her rear
facing! 
i've gotten brakes slammed on my twice and
hit someone in a frontal crash. According
to your info, it's better in a rear seat
for frontal crashes. But the facing of
the baby makes no difference if you're
rear ended...Kiinda strange.
I'm about to take some pics of .Oni! She
passed out in her high chair!!!!!
Sarah
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Posted: 01-09-07 20:30pm
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It's all physics. If you go to the link I
posted it has all these stats for types of
accidents and which happen more often.
I seriously wasn't trying to offend anyone
or anything. I just want everyone's
babies to be as safe as possible!
You'd better post those pics! The other
night finn was sitting in his bumbo but
facing away from me so he could watch
nick. He kept slumping to the side and I
just kept fixing him and sitting him back
up and finally nick turned around and saw
he was asleep! I felt bad that I just
kept readjusting him and he was sleeping.
Poor little guy!
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