Sorry if this is too long. You can skip
to the second half where i've marked it
with ????? ____ -----. That's where the
real questions begin, the rest is back
story.
I'm 26 years old and didn't use to have a
problem with premature ejaculation. Then
last year I was on an anti-depressant for
anxiety. While on this I had inorgasmia
(difficulty in achieving orgasm). I only
had sex a few times while on it, but I
would achieve orgasm manually myself as
opposed to cumming from the woman's
efforts. I probably could have at times,
but I took advantage of the inorgasmia and
kept going to please her more.
After coming off the drug, I regained my
orgasmic abilities and more. It was nice
when first coming off, because
masturbation did not take so much work.
However, now i've found myself to have
premature ejaculation. For the first time
I had to say, "i swear that has never
happened to me before." and it was the
truth, but why would she believe that, it
was our first time together.
Anyway, i'm trying to learn some
techniques. I've bought alan ritz's book
"scientifically guaranteed male multiple
orgasms and ultimate sex." it's very
informational and i'm putting some of the
advice to work. Much of the work on
premature ejaculation has to do with
serotonin and some supplements. I'm
trying to give my body what it needs for
sexual health and premature ejaculation,
and have purchased some chinese herbs he
recommends. Though, none are really
specifically for premature ejaculation,
but may help. We'll see. I'm unsure
about pc exercises as he says pc causes
premature ejaculation, which I have also
read elsewhere. However, pc exercises
seem to be the most common technique for
premature ejaculation. One site said that
they were taught wrong, so perhaps that's
why pc exercises can be both good and bad
for pe.
I also think this is indeed one of the
reasons i've developed pe. I had done pc
exercises before and always incorporated
contracting it during orgasm. However,
while on the medication it was absolutely
imperative that I contract it strongly and
use vigorous strokes. Now I can barely
relax my pc while masturbating or moving
or touching my erection.
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i've also done a lot of research on herbs
that I discovered while looking for and
researching products alan's book
recommends (for overall sexual health, not
necessarily pe). I also looked at pe
pills to see what they contain for more
info. It seems many of them contain
things like 5-htp and passion flower, both
used for calming effects or serotonin
production. Alan recommends 5-htp but
only temporarily. I'm taking a protein
supplement to get natural l-trytophan to
produce 5-htp naturally. I also take a
natural anxiety pill that already contains
some 5-htp. So i'm not interested in
taking any of those pills as they deal
with anxiety, which i've already got under
control.
However, (besides some chinese herbs which
I may create my own formula with) I did
find one product that seems to deal with
other causes of pe. It's not a very
informational site and the herb names they
use are very uncommon. I think they did
it on purpose to make it more confusing to
compare their product to others. However,
I found another site selling their product
using different names and googled each
name individually to find all the names
for those herbs. I'm unfamiliar with
nearly all but one of them.
I was wondering if anyone has had any
experience using these or other pe pills?
The ones i'm specifically talking about go
by the name last longer. Luckily, i've
found another product with the exact same
ingredients for less than a quarter of the
price, so either way I won't be ordering
from them.
I'm doing a lot of research into
techniques and supplementing (which i've
always done), so i'm really only looking
for info on pills and people's experiences
with them. Especially ones that don't
have to do with treating pe through
serotonin or anxiety, i'm on top of that
already.
Thanks
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POM82
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 137 Location: Canada
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Posted: 01-11-07 12:11pm
Ive tried many of these so called "miracle
pills" that are suppose to cure premature
ejaculation, all of them didnt work. One
of them though called detainx, I had to
take for a couple months before seeing the
results but I stopped taking them and
never tried them with a partner. The
other, stay erect pills did not work at
all, again suppose to take them for a
couple months before seeing resluts but it
also says that if you take 3-5 tablets you
are suppose to last longer that same
night, what a load of bs and finally
endurerx, this pill is a herbal viagra and
also claims to help with pe but did not
and also left me feeling like the blood in
my veins was was rushing like a river,
felt very flush and light headed.
The only thing that ever worked for me was
this little pill called xox, it delyaed
ejac alright, I lasted about 10 min but
thats only cause I took of the condom,
could of lasted longer.
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HealthySex
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 414
Posted: 01-11-07 19:47pm
Xox?
Do you know of a website that explains it?
I can only find it on ebay and it
doesn't say what's contained in it.
I'll email one of the sellers, but i'd
rather find a website.
Do you know the ingredients?
Did you only use it the one time, or can
you vouch for the product working many
times?
Also, i've seen the stay erect site, they
give you bands (i guess like a penis ring)
with your order and also sell
desensitizing gel. Which tells me that
the pills don't work, because why add two
more things. But I was wondering if you
had the band and what it was like?
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POM82
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 137 Location: Canada
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Posted: 01-12-07 13:49pm
I only used it once, I went back where I
got it and they were out and werent
getting any more because of the trouble
involved when it comes to crssing the
borders but they had something new that
replaced xox and was supposedly better
according to clients feedback, its also a
pill..... Cant remember the name but ill
post the name later today. Havent tried
these new ones yet. Hope they work.
The stay erect restriction band is
basically a thick rubber band, its not
comfortable at all and doesnt go well with
a condom because its so hard to get on
after the condom. And for the little
time I used it I did not notice any
diffrence in performance.
Pom
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HealthySex
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 414
Posted: 01-12-07 19:29pm
Thanks.
I checked out the website and the
ingredients. Then I checked out each
individual ingredient I wasn't familiar
with.
In doing so, I found the same product sold
at another site under the name vigor-25.
It's replacement, perhaps the same product
you're talking about, is rize2. But many
of the ingredients are different. It
actually has 3 ingredients that I was
going to try for a "short time before
performance" boost, though. Cordyceps,
rhodiola, and gaba. I was going to add
some schizandra, lycium, and siberian
ginseng too. I've got all those already,
now I just need to try it out. Which I
should do so I don't waste my time on...
I'm actually working on my own formula of
some herbs. Some are for relaxing, some
are astringents to lock in fluid, some are
for kidney jing (yin and yang. Chinese
herbal jargon), some for general sexual
health, some to increase the effectiveness
and harmonize the other herbs, etc. I've
got a list of herbs, but I keep changing
the formula slightly as well as adding new
ones. So i'll be talking to another
herbalist (i've already talked to a couple
for some info) and try to finalize my
formula. My list is too big now, so I
need to cut it down, knock out some
redundancy, choose the best ones, balance
it so it's good for anyone to take, and
tweak the dosage of the individual
ingredients. Some of them are actually
found in xox (vigor-25) and rize2.
I might make a second formula for
pre-performance, as the one above may be
more of a daily formula. I'd try it for
pre-performance and if it works, great.
Then I won't have to take it everyday. If
it doesn't, ill try a pre-performance
formula that i've got ideas for. And
maybe see if they work together even
better.
I need to get a booty call to test out my
gaba, rhodiola, cordyceps, schizandra,
lycium, and ginseng combo. Because if
that works, i'm set. And it's a lot
cheaper than those manufactured products
listed above that sell for $60 for 10
pills. You could buy those 6 ingredients
above seperately (schizandra and lycium
are often paired) for more than $60, but
have 2+ months worth of doses.
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dfandsf
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 May 2007 Posts: 13 Location: Colorado Springs
Posted: 05-24-07 23:33pm
Rhodiola at our website doesn't cost
anywhere near the $60.00 that you were
saying in your post.
