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Blood Test Results And Other Things... Posted: 01-08-07 18:58pm
Haven't been here in a while, I actually
went to ny to try and get some second
opinions on why my health is failing, or
seems to me to be failing, and have some
different symptoms that someone here might
recognize, or have some insight into.
I've been sticking to stan's diet for
about a month and change, and have noticed
a decrease in the episodes of racing
heart, trembling, sweating, all this,
after eating carbs/sugars. Also the
severe headaches and derealization
symptoms that plagued me for a long time
have also subsided, thanks stan! But in
their place, other, more troubling
symptoms have arisen, and I don't know if
maybe i'm on a j-curve of improvement
(that i'll get worse before I get better),
or if I did too much damage unknowingly
with my carb-heavy diet. What's happening
is:
labs-
serum glucose was barely high- 101
hemoglobin was barely high- 17.2
serum sodium was low end of normal
bp was 103/80
hemocrit was high normal
clinical-
sweet taste in mouth periodically (daily)
trembling
profound fatigue
prolonged capillary refill time (in hot
shower, for example, when hands hang at
sides, they turn bright red, and the veins
in the palms are visible, in cold weather
outside, they turn white and tingle)
prominent veins in arms, legs, neck
delayed bruising
constant thirst
weak and sore legs
constantly cold (body temp is 97.2)
body fluids are normal viscosity
doctors say i'm fine
i'm stumped. My diet seems right on,
anyone have any ideas what's going on?
The high hemoglobin and delayed capillary
refill time have me worried the most, as
they can be indicative of cardiovascular
problems, although i've been worked over
by a cardiologist who says i'm fine.
Thanks,
-greg
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Stan
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Posted: 01-08-07 19:09pm
I must say i've never heard of this. Are
you eating my diet with high fat or high
protein? You may need to cut back the
fat, but still I can't see how that would
cause anything. Can you handle cayenne
pepper? If so, I suggest drinking some
of that down or adding a good bit to
meals. That should clear it up real
quick. The fatigue is likely an
adjustment phase, I wouldn't worry unless
it's every day almost all day for like two
weeks.
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jude099
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Posted: 01-09-07 13:12pm
Yeah, i'm thinking there's something
underlying wrong with me that's causing
the hypoglycemia, as some of this stuff
just isn't explainable by that. It's
actually very scary that i'm eating better
and feeling worse, and having such
alarming symptoms. I have heard that
diabetes can affect hemoglobin levels, but
I believe it affects glucose-binding sites
on a percentage of total hemoglobin.
Maybe i'm wrong.
I'm afraid this is going beyond just
eating wrong, and I don't know what to do.
Every doctor says i'm fine, and basically
doesn't want to deal with me.
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Stan
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Posted: 01-09-07 17:06pm
How red and white are your hands getting?
My veins are clearly visible and nothing
is wrong, i'm wondering if you may be
simply obsessing (a common symptom of
hypoglycemia). Don't get me wrong, i'm
not doubting you, I just know how crazy I
can get over any ache and pain if my sugar
is low enough. I thought I had stomach
cancer for about a week once.
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Posted: 01-13-07 12:00pm
You know what, I actually think this is a
hypoglycemic symptom. It has something
to do with a continual activation of the
"flight or fight" response. Basically,
all that's happening is that your body is
reducing blood flow to the hands to keep
it constant in other areas, this causes
the vessel to get closer to the skin, and
they change color. As far as I can read,
it's nothing to worry about, but I
discovered it was a symptom when I was
going through a list of different things.
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HypoWayne
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Re: Blood Test Results And Other Things... Posted: 01-20-07 15:46pm
jude099
wrote:
the high hemoglobin and
delayed capillary refill time have me
worried the most, as they can be
indicative of cardiovascular problems,
thanks,
-greg
could you have raynaud's syndrome?
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Stan
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Posted: 01-20-07 16:22pm
Well, that's what it's called, but that's
just essentially giving a name to a
symptom.
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jude099
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Posted: 01-25-07 17:14pm
I just looked up raynaud's syndrome, and
it seems to match exactly.
When all this health stuff started about 2
years ago, my thyroid was found to be a
little underactive (slightly high tsh).
I've had it tested thoughout, and it's
been extremely erratic. High tsh,
overactive, low tsh, and in the normal
category. The doctors believe it's lab
error, but that sounds ridiculous to me.
Could an underactive thyroid contribute to
hypoglycemic symptoms? ...And everything
else?
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HypoWayne
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Posted: 01-29-07 00:56am
jude099
wrote:
i just looked up raynaud's
syndrome, and it seems to match exactly.
When all this health stuff started about 2
years ago, my thyroid was found to be a
little underactive (slightly high tsh).
I've had it tested thoughout, and it's
been extremely erratic. High tsh,
overactive, low tsh, and in the normal
category. The doctors believe it's lab
error, but that sounds ridiculous to me.
Could an underactive thyroid contribute to
hypoglycemic symptoms? ...And everything
else?
yes, thyroid problems can cause
hypoglycemia-like symptoms. I cant tell
you how accurate thyroid tests are, or how
prone to errors they might be.
stan stepanic
wrote:
well, that's what it's
called (raynaud's), but that's just
essentially giving a name to a
symptom.
its a name that allows the person to
educate themself on the topic. I have
never heard of raynaud's being linked to
hypoglycemia. If it has been, please
share.
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Stan
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Posted: 01-29-07 10:22am
I explained it up there but i'll do it
again. It happens in some cases because
of the body constantly turning on the
"flight or fight" action because of low
sugar. In some people, this will cause
the blood vessels in the hands to lose
some blood flow as the body directs it to
other areas due to constant stress from
this reaction. Then, raynaud's kicks in.
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HypoWayne
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Posted: 02-01-07 16:45pm
stan stepanic
wrote:
i explained it up there but
i'll do it again. It happens in some
cases because of the body constantly
turning on the "flight or fight" action
because of low sugar. In some people,
this will cause the blood vessels in the
hands to lose some blood flow as the body
directs it to other areas due to constant
stress from this reaction. Then,
raynaud's kicks
in.
i was asking to see some evidence (ie
scientific or medical) that its true. It
sounds like a fine idea, but where is the
evidence? You are stating it as a fact
"in some people, this will cause the blood
vessels in the hands to lose some blood
flow". Further up you said "you know
what, I actually think this is a
hypoglycemic symptom" which sounds a lot
less certain. Then you followed with "i
discovered it was a symptom when I was
going through a list of different things".
What list, where? I'm sorry for the
skepticism (thats the way I am) , I just
have never heard of raynaud's being a
symptom of hypoglycemia. I'm willing to
be educated if you can point me to the
source.
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Stan
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Posted: 02-02-07 11:02am
I just saw it on some medical website
which I can't find now. I didn't save it
in my links because I simply looked at it
briefly when I was searching for something
about "blue hands." i'm not sure why
you're focusing on those two sentences,
they're entirely different. In one I
explain the symptom, in the other I say I
think it's a symptom. That's it. If I
find it again i'll post it here but I have
no reason to. Just look through "blue
hands" and it should come up somewhere.
Basically, I assume, like I said, due to a
chronic flight or fight reaction in the
body, which is one of the causes of
raynaud's, some people could get it.
That's all I have to say about it.
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jude099
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Posted: 02-02-07 14:45pm
Well, the hands are really just one small
piece of the puzzle... But they're
constantly visible, so they bother me more
than some of the other issues. Keep in
mind, my mother is hypoglycemic, my father
is diabetic, and I grew up eating mostly
carbs and sugar (i would eat sugar from
the packets for coffee sometimes in
restaurants while waiting for my food).
Some kind of metabolic problem was
virtually assured. I'm 6', 160-170
pounds, and I have fat and protein
digestion issues because of a removed gall
bladder. I'm also type a, and, no
surprise, severely depressed.
So, I assume it's not just hypoglycemia
that's causing my problems.
I did have a question, if anyone knows: no
gallbladder=hard to process fats and
proteins. I also take a bile-binding
agent called questran, so I have
constantly fatty stools. Could taking a
lipase/protease enzyme help? Obviously
it's a problem cause the diet I should be
on is mostly fat and protein. Some
sources say taking an ezyme suppliment
helps, some say it does nothing, i'm
curious.
Thanks.
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Posted: 02-02-07 20:55pm
As far as I know, no supplements like that
have any negative side effects unless
you're allergic to what they're derived
from, so it wouldn't hurt to try!
