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Q: What a Mess.
asked by: Sail Away on January 4th, 2007
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The end.

Last edited by Sail Away on January 5th, 2007 12:06 AM; edited 1 time in total
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Becky replied on January 4th, 2007
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Darling you can never change somebody. I learnt that the hard way. He'll only change if he wants too.

I've known a few drug addicts in the past (my ex stepdad was one) and it is a horrible thing for a child to have to see. There's nothing wrong with you trying to help him out but don't let yourself fall for him while he's like that cause he'll end up pulling you into his world and that's not good for you or brayden.
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Kia replied on January 4th, 2007
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The first part so reminded me of me.

A few years ago I pushed steve away because I "met someone".
It broke my heart being away from steve even for that short time but looking back it was like I had to test "us" somehow.

Had to see what the relationship was made of.

You'll do whats right for you dalicia, I know that much.
And if in years to come you think it was the wrong decision - you make damn sure you get the best out of it that you can.

I think maybe you've been feeling too "safe" in your relationship with chris, too stable. You need wildness and excitement.

Think it through and don't be hasty.
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SamanthaM replied on January 4th, 2007
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I'll punch you! You know I love you, but seriously don't be stupid. Even if this guy is "trying" to get clean, the chances of it aren't very high if he's been doing it since 13. There is nothing you can do to change him, and as much as you'd like to believe it, he isn't going to change for you. I honestly don't think you or brayden need to be around someone like that. I understand that you and chris are having your problems, but everyone does. Jon and I have had our fair share of problems..I'm sure you know that. I think you should just talk to chris and give it time. Are your problems really that bad that you guys can't work them out?
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Sandbox Party replied on January 4th, 2007
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Yeah girl keep your distance.. Let him get clean on his own, without your intervention... Let him stay clean for a *while* and then maybe look into it.

Its not worth the drama right now, babe.
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arcadia replied on January 5th, 2007
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D, as hard as it may to be to just walk away, do it. You can't take risks like this, ya know? You're a mommy! You have .Brayden to worry about. It's really not a good idea to get mixed up with drugs- especially hard ones, &especially when you're quitting smoking. Just think of what could happen. I don't wanna see you get involved in this kind of stuff. You have wayyy too much going for you! You're strong &beautiful &a great mother. Don't let anything get in the way that could possibly jeopordize what you've got going. <3
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Nataliachick7 replied on January 5th, 2007
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***[editted in the name of world peace]***
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Sail Away replied on January 5th, 2007
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***[editted in the name of world peace]***
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Sail Away replied on January 5th, 2007
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To everyone else -

thanks for the comments, I really appreciate them. Michael has nothing to do with why chris and I split up. I have actually known michael for a really long time, but we never talked or anything. I seen him at my sisters house and then I found him on myspace and added him and sh*t just happend.

It's really confusing but I care about him, and I really do think he can cut the dope for good because I have personally seen it happen to a few people I love. It's all about believing you can quit or not. I'm not gonna lie guys, I have done dope before I have actually done a lot of drugs in my time but i've never let myself get addicted to any of it. I know my limits, and I know how far to go. None of you may understand that, but I do.

Michael has met .Brayden twice and both times he wasn't on anything, i'd never bring someone into our lives that would give brayden a bad influence, you guys should know that. Especially you sam.

I'm gonna talk to him about it tomorrow hopefully, he don't like talking about it because he knows I get aggrivated with it and stuff. He is a really good person though guys, for real....And I don't hate, nor do I think he's a bad person for being on drugs because well...I know his life story,you guys don't. And it's really crappy if anyone judges him just because of that.
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Kia replied on January 5th, 2007
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dalicialovesyou wrote:
and it's really crappy if anyone judges him just because of that.


we can only go by what we read from you hunni Confused
For the most part I think on the whole most of us think it is not a good idea.

But we also know that you will do as you see fit to do at any given time.

Just... D. Think it over Wink
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Sail Away replied on January 5th, 2007
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kia_breizzze wrote:
dalicialovesyou wrote:
and it's really crappy if anyone judges him just because of that.


we can only go by what we read from you hunni Confused
For the most part I think on the whole most of us think it is not a good idea.


But we also know that you will do as you see fit to do at any given time.


Just... D. Think it over Wink


thank you kia, I know it does sound like an awful idea for real. My mom tells me this everyday lol! I wish you guys knew him personally though, because I think you'd understand a lot more. It just kills me that a good person is waisting their life like this, and it's worth a try. I don't think he'll kick the habit for good honestly...But I have hope in the boy..

My mom has met him and her words were "he'd be perfect for you if he wasn't on dope" and it's true....But I will .N.O.T. Be with anyone that does that. My mom was on it while I was pregnant guys...And I told her "mom if you keep doing this I won't let you see brayden" that scared her...And she kicked the habit that same week. I seen her withdraws, I know how bad they are. My sister has been doing it for years and i've seen her withdraws and it's really hard guys, when my sister tries to come down she has to do methadone or something like that and since she took that she got addicted to that, so now she's doing dope & methadone and whatever else.

It's so messed up dude, but I hope it works out.

Brayden really likes him too and he don't like guys at all, the first day I let them meet he was sitting next to .Michael pulling on his hoody and looking at his hat.

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LaurensEntourage replied on January 6th, 2007
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What is he on? Heroin? Duh, methadone, heroin, dope. Sorry. I've known some addicts in my day. And I know people who say methadone is worse than actual heroin.
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Sail Away replied on January 6th, 2007
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laurensentourage wrote:
what is he on? Heroin? Duh, methadone, heroin, dope. Sorry. I've known some addicts in my day. And I know people who say methadone is worse than actual heroin.


dope =meth.

You don't know him, I do. He doesn't do heroin, doesnt take methadone, yada yada. He only does dope. If you read my post correctly I was stating my sister is addicted to methadone after being prescribed for it.

If it was worse, doctors wouldn't prescribe it but when they do that's what usually happens. When someone comes in for treatment because their on dope, heroin whatever then they usually get methadone and they get addicted to it. I am sharing my sisters experience and what happend to her, but that doesn't mean everyone else gets addicted to it aswell.

It doesn't matter anyways, we talked and got everything already figured out so thanks for everyones replies, but I don't need advice anymore now cause like I said....We got it all settled.



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LaurensEntourage replied on January 6th, 2007
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When I hear dope I think heroin. Your original post was erased so I was guessing sorry. I wasn't saying anything negative about him or your sister. All I said was I know addicts. Plenty. They say that the methadone is more addictive than heroin. I've taken methadone, but never heroin, so I can't compare.

I did speed for about two years in my early teens. It's a nasty drug, i've seen it ruin lives. I'm glad you guys are working things out.

I guess I understand why you're so defensive, but you don't have to be.
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Sail Away replied on January 7th, 2007
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laurensentourage wrote:
when I hear dope I think heroin. Your original post was erased so I was guessing sorry. I wasn't saying anything negative about him or your sister. All I said was I know addicts. Plenty. They say that the methadone is more addictive than heroin. I've taken methadone, but never heroin, so I can't compare.


I did speed for about two years in my early teens. It's a nasty drug, i've seen it ruin lives. I'm glad you guys are working things out.

I guess I understand why you're so defensive, but you don't have to be.


thanks for understanding, but yeah we call it dope here. It's really sad that someone can get so addicted to that you know? It just totally breaks my heart. My sister and I have never gotten along because she's so messed up now I can't stand to be around her, I have tried plenty of times too and it just makes me burn inside.

My mom was on it for almost a year and seeing how much she changed made me realize how bad that stuff really is. She kicked the habit though and were all really proud of her now. Funny thing is, my sister is what got her started. What a good daughter eh?

The guy I wrote about is just....Jeez there are really no words and I don't want to spread a lot of my business online anymore because some people just have big mouths and feel the need to smart off. I'm not trying to get him off of it because I know I can't. He has to do that on his own. If he wants to ruin his life like that then so be it, but like I told him. No way am I gonna be there to watch him fall. He'll never be anything if he continues to be on drugs, and he knows this already. It's really hard to explain but i'm sure your pretty firmiliar with this since youve been around it and etc.

I've done methadone & heroin and I don't see how anyone could even compare those two. Shocked
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Becky replied on January 7th, 2007
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At the end of the day, d, you know what is best for you and you will do what you want regardless of what everyone else thinks. Believe me, I am the same. Laughing

try to follow your head, not your heart. I have followed my heart in the past and it screwed me over (with neil) so now I am letting me head rule but it's damn hard Confused
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Kia replied on January 7th, 2007
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laurensentourage wrote:
i did speed for about two years in my early teens. It's a nasty drug, i've seen it ruin lives. I'm glad you guys are working things out.


i hate it when people say speed ruined their life.
That's crap.
If someone doesn't have the discpline to to use it only for a night out then to stay off it the next day, anything will ruin their life.
Speed used to be prescribed by doctors in the 60's as a weight loss treatment.

My mom has used speed since she was in her teens and she is fine - she just uses it if she is going out and wants to stay alert and have fun. No addiction or "need" for it. And, no she doesn't use any other drugs - doesn't smoke nothing (although she has baked the odd hash cake).
I've done the same with speed - even steve will take speed on occassions.

No, I would never "recommend" some take speed.
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Eyes Wide Shut replied on January 7th, 2007
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D, I didn't get a chance to read your post. But you know the deal more than any of us on here.

I don't know the dude, but I know you're not dumb enough to make a decision that would be bad for .Bray!!

Hey, what the hell happened? I can't find you on my myspace anymore!

Actually, a couple people disappeared!

Sarah
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amethyst eyes replied on January 7th, 2007
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my mom has used speed since she was in her teens and she is fine - she just uses it if she is going out and wants to stay alert and have fun. No addiction or "need" for it. And, no she doesn't use any other drugs - doesn't smoke nothing (although she has baked the odd hash cake).

I've done the same with speed - even steve will take speed on occassions.


No, I would never "recommend" some take speed.


.If their is no need for it then why take it? .Their is obviously a dependency if at any point you feel the need to take an illegal substance in order to have fun. .Speed is an addicting drug. .Yes, I have seen many peoples lives ruined becuase they thought they could handle taking it but ended up heavily dependent. .It really is not as simple as being aware of what you can handle because if you are trying a drug to begin with your ability to judge is already deeply impaired .You can not say that just becuase you "think" you can handle, everyone can because that is obvioulsy not true.

.The fact that you say you have taken it worries me. .Aren't you trying to conceive? .And even if you are not taking it on a regular basis is it really fair to a child to be raised in a situation where they thing taking an illegal substance "just for fun" is ok? .Im sorry if .I seem preachy on the subject but my life has been severly effected by this drug, even though .I have never taken it myself and will absolutely never touch it.

.Also, saying it was prescribed earlier by doctors still does not make it ok. .Many doctors have been proven wrong in their medical practices so saying it is ok because they did it once is a very lame excuse. .They don't do it anymore do they? .Why? .Because they have proven the harmful effects and addictive qualities far outway the supposedly 'good' side effects of meth.
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Sail Away replied on January 7th, 2007
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babymajic0506 wrote:
d, I didn't get a chance to read your post. But you know the deal more than any of us on here.

I don't know the dude, but I know you're not dumb enough to make a decision that would be bad for .Bray!!


Hey, what the hell happened? I can't find you on my myspace anymore!


Actually, a couple people disappeared!


Sarah


i know I wouldn't make any decision that would be bad for .Bray!!

Yeah about the myspace thing, chris got really mad at me and got on my accounts and deleted a lot of people off of it, so just add me back.

He's a huge tard. Shocked
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