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Q: Have to Vent..feel Stuck Between Rock And Hard Place..
asked by: Carifairy on December 1st, 2006
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Obviously we believe in safe and legal abortion, but recently there have been women posting on the abortion board seeking advice about using cytotec to induce a miscarriage.

Ethically, I feel that I should tell them how to safely use it, otherwise they could seriously harm themselves, even kill themselves. I know the correct and safe dosage, and I feel I am doing the right thing, but it is still difficult. I just really want them to have safe access to abortion, and I fear that someone will get hurt no matter what I sat =(
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diamondsz replied on December 1st, 2006
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Carifairy dont feel bad........

You are doing the best that you can, some of them are trying to balme the reason on abortion on you when that isnt the case. Why would they go to the abortion support forum if they havent already made up their mind on what the want to do.

I support the words of good advice you are giving to these girls, in the end though it is their choice if they want to hear it or not ~selective hearing~!
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Jules replied on December 2nd, 2006
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(i normally post on the pro-life board but I hope I can be allowed to make this post here. I will delete it if its presence irritates anyone.)

.Carifairy, I sympathise with your predicament. Due to your 'inside knowledge', the unenviable task has fallen to you to be the advisor in these situations and that's a heavy burden to bear.

I think you have been doing the right thing though. These women are going to abort anyway and you have potentially saved their lives by informing them of how to do the procedure as safely as possible. As much as i'd rather the women weren't going to abort their babies, I would rather just the one life be lost than both the mother and child to die.

I don't know where you stand legally by giving out such information, though. I hope you are not risking yourself in any way. Question
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Tylanas replied on December 3rd, 2006
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Your post is welcome, as it is supportive of this topic Smile
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justgottaloveit replied on December 3rd, 2006
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purestgreen wrote:
as much as i'd rather the women weren't going to abort their babies, I would rather just the one life be lost than both the mother and child to die.


no child dies in abortion, regardless of your emotional babble.
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Tylanas replied on December 4th, 2006
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justgottaloveit wrote:
purestgreen wrote:
as much as i'd rather the women weren't going to abort their babies, I would rather just the one life be lost than both the mother and child to die.


no child dies in abortion, regardless of your emotional babble.


a human dies. Period. Don't call it a child if you like. But the offspring of plants are called chilren too, in genome studies. Any offspring is called a child. "baby" on the otherhand, I have more of a problem with.
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Moo replied on December 4th, 2006
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I think what you need to remember in these scenarios is that these women who don't have access to legal abortion will attempt to abort their pregnancy with or without the knowledge of safe doseages. By proviing them with that information I don't feel there is a more responsible thing that you could possibly do but I understand your predicament.
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justgottaloveit replied on December 4th, 2006
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eiri wrote:
a human dies.


why am I not surprised you are defending an anti choicer? Lol
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Jules replied on December 5th, 2006
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justgottaloveit wrote:
eiri wrote:
a human dies.


why am I not surprised you are defending an anti choicer? Lol


ok I just want to clarify something:

i am not anti-choice because I don't think abortion should be made illegal. I am pro-life in my personal beliefs but I don't feel that my beliefs should be forced upon anyone else. That is why I support .Carifairy helping these women who are unable to obtain legal, safe abortions. I may not agree with abortion but, like I said in my previous post, I would rather only one human life is lost and not two.
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Tylanas replied on December 5th, 2006
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justgottaloveit wrote:
eiri wrote:
a human dies.


why am I not surprised you are defending an anti choicer? Lol


of course I am defending her, because her posts in this topic have made more sense and been more intelligent and understanding than most of your hate-filled diatribes.

Why did you quote this section of my post? Are you trying to say the fetus is not human?

What is the fetus? A fish, then, if not a human? A mouse, perhaps? Oh yes, i'm using the pro-life defense. Why? Because the fetus is human of course.

It is not a person. That's the difference.
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justgottaloveit replied on December 5th, 2006
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eiri wrote:
because the fetus is human of course.



It is not a person. That's the difference.


nor is it a baby or child, [edit].
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Ihatestupidpeople replied on December 5th, 2006
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i eat aborted fetuses! wrote:
dewd minors desrve to haft a choice guysz


cuz u knowz they shuld be able to drinkz to



you guys are medical question m0rons
Rolling Eyes


seriously its a friggen joke


"its not a life its not a baby"

man you guys will do anything to defend the sick load of crap that you all partake in

if you don't want a baby heres a simple solution


swallow


there you go

was that so hard you irresponsible pr1cks


baby=breathing being with rights
fetus=human in the making

wow people dont know anything about gestational age do you have kids?
If you did id say your too stupid to own them

do I need to write this in english?


Why are people so stupid
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justgottaloveit replied on December 5th, 2006
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i eat aborted fetuses! wrote:
if you don't want a baby heres a simple solution


swallow


too bad your mother didn't, blueballs.
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Tylanas replied on December 5th, 2006
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justgottaloveit wrote:
eiri wrote:
because the fetus is human of course.


It is not a person. That's the difference.


nor is it a baby or child, [edit].


"child" means offspring. Period. Are you saying a fetus is not offspring?

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everyone, stop replying to "i eat". Any and all of their posts will be removed; you guys should know that. Do not encourage his/her behavior. Most likely, any topic started by them will be deleted as well.
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justgottaloveit replied on December 5th, 2006
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eiri wrote:
"child" means offspring.


child means born offspring.
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Tylanas replied on December 6th, 2006
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justgottaloveit wrote:
eiri wrote:
"child" means offspring.


child means born offspring.


if your fetus is not your biological child then whose is it? Its someone's. You'd hope it was yours. The last time I remember this argument, the word "child" had several definitions. One of them was, yes, the stage of development after "baby". However, the other definition classified "child" as simply meaning offspring.
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justgottaloveit replied on December 6th, 2006
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eiri wrote:
if your fetus is not your biological child then whose is it?


the person that birth it, you [edit] nitwit.
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Tylanas replied on December 7th, 2006
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justgottaloveit wrote:
eiri wrote:
if your fetus is not your biological child then whose is it?


the person that birth it, you [edit] nitwit.


"the person that birth it"? (and i'm the nitwit?)

uh, since it's your fetus inside your body, I freaking hope it's you who gives birth to it. Science isn't quite good enough to do fetal transfers yet. That makes it your biological offspring, your child.
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jenn_smithson replied on December 7th, 2006
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purestgreen wrote:
these women are going to abort anyway and you have potentially saved their lives by informing them of how to do the procedure as safely as possible.

some of the people who have come on here recently were from countries where not only is abortion illegal and holds heavy consequences, but unwed or out-of-wedlock (to use archaic expressions) pregnancies also hold heavy consequences. For one of the posters, specifically, she could have been stoned or beheaded if her pregnancy had become common knowledge even just in her own family. Cari is saving their lives in more ways than just the obvious.
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diamondsz replied on December 7th, 2006
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jenn_smithson wrote:
purestgreen wrote:
these women are going to abort anyway and you have potentially saved their lives by informing them of how to do the procedure as safely as possible.

some of the people who have come on here recently were from countries where not only is abortion illegal and holds heavy consequences, but unwed or out-of-wedlock (to use archaic expressions) pregnancies also hold heavy consequences. For one of the posters, specifically, she could have been stoned or beheaded if her pregnancy had become common knowledge even just in her own family. Cari is saving their lives in more ways than just the obvious.


not all countries have freedom!
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