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Q: Vaccine Containing Hiv
asked by: fsb on November 25th, 2006
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Yesterday I read an issue in a newspaper about hiv conspiracy. It says that till the middle of 1985, 4% of americans who were injected with hepatitis vaccine were infected with hiv. On the other side, another article says that in africa, many children were also infected with hiv, because the vaccine they were told is for parotitis contained the hiv virus.

Is such thing possible or these are a caca stories? Can someone "put"
the virus in the vaccine?
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stef46
replied on November 29th, 2006
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Our newspapers are of little help when it comes to info on hiv..The first cases were in africa,the congo 1957.The cause were a polio vaccine program called, chat.The vaccine was amplified on chimpanzee kidneys.This caused siv or simian immune virus to contaminate the polio vaccine.When this was given to young babies without an established immune system ,it mutated from siv,to hiv..The first epedemics closley followed the polio vaccine program...This info is witheld from newspapers as who is ashamed of the mistake ....The second infection was in america in 1978.The hepatitus b program which unbelievably also amplified the vaccine in chimpanzee kidneys.This was 20 years after the first infection,and some people had to know of this desease by then.It was even being studyed by the special cancer virus program..Promiscous homosexuals were called upon for the hep b vaccination program.They all developed aids...This is what started the epidemic in north america..While the african episode seems to be an accident the american infection is very suspicous,and in all likleyhood ,some key people knew of the way that infection took place, from chimpanzee kidneys, and prompted the program.Their reason,to cull,homsexuals and drug addicts who are considered by some "hawks" to be excess popullation..How could people studying cancer -viruses not know twenty years after the african event that chimp kidneys transmited siv?..This information is witheld from newspapers for a myriad of reasons.
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another guy
replied on December 1st, 2006
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Its all very well just posting this information, how do we know that you have not just made this up. Are you able to give the source of this? As it sounds like another conspiracy theory.
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stef46
replied on December 1st, 2006
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Yes of course.The source is a book called the river,by edward hooper.This is a 1,100 page, massively re-searched book which shows the path of the early infections...This book is hard to find.A google search will show a handfull.I paid 90 bucks for mine...This book and the info is being buried by lies and bad science as there are powerfull people who dont want to admit to such a momentus mistake..I just want the truth to come out so we dont mess with animal organs.,if it dosent come out ,more nasties are on the way..There will never be a vaccination for hiv,like the common cold it changes its profile.
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stef46
replied on December 1st, 2006
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I would like to add,that edward hoopers book deals with the first cases and the african outbreak..He only touches upon the american outbreak and unlike me he never mentions any malice by any people,like "hawks",etc.To him it was an accident.
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another guy
replied on December 2nd, 2006
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Thank you for posting back with your source.
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fsb
replied on December 4th, 2006
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I had a td vaccine several months ago (td is tetanus in my language, do not know how is the word in english, but this vaccine is against infection if someone has cut a part of his/her body with dirty knifes, instrumets etc.)
so after reading this issue in the newspaper and after reading your posts I am really concerned it is possible my vaccine to contain the hiv virus.
Should I go and have hiv test?
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stef46
replied on December 6th, 2006
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Fbs,definitly no..Only vaccines that were amplified on chimp kidneys are contaminated.As far as I know this was only done on polio,and hep b vaccinations,so you are in the clear..I would suggest research when anyone takes a vaccine,with the wonderfull internet we are all enpowered with knowledge.
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stef46
replied on December 14th, 2006
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As far as I know all the vaccine programs stopped using monkey kidneys,even though monkey kidneys were the best substrate and gave massive amounts of vaccination..When they changed they never explained why??..They just switched and gave the lie that it wasent because of safety concerns..What sane man would butcher a lovley inteligent chimp to get their kidneys and not have the instinct to tell the3m its wrong? The vaccination programs have a history of not imforming the public of potential dangers and of injuries and deaths going unreported.They have always hushed thing up.I find this dis-respectfull.I suggest people research themselfs,just google your ailment or vaccine...The days of elitists bull$&*^%!@$ the public because they know best, are over.
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