Abortion Debate Forum - Special Cases??? Do They Matter... Or Is Abortion Wrong? page 2

birch wrote:

eiri wrote:

purestgreen wrote:

why should a woman be punished for having too many abortions? I can understand that in the .U.K (where abortions are free) perhaps only a set amount should be paid for because of .N.H.S resources, but if you are stating it from a moral standpoint then it makes no sense.

If one social abortion is considered morally acceptable then why not ten?

because to me, evry abortion is unique. I wish that the system here was like the system in britain; then, after 6 or 7, they could stop being free. Since women have to pay anyway over here, and additional fine should be applied when they have too many abortions without a good enough reason.

I mean this for the women who do not use any form of protection and just sleep around aimlessly and have a dozen abortion without even considering what it is they are doing.

eiri, you would have women pay an additional fee for a surgical procedure if she needed it more than "x" number of times? Question

this is akin to punishing a woman for having sex, yes?

Women who have an excessive number of abortions under their belt (no pun intended) have other issues in place and do not need to pay a fine-they need help in other areas of their lives.

Sometimes I think you are not quite pro-choice as I understand pc to be, anyways.

i am a moderate. I believe that both extremes are bad. Illegal abortion is bad, but so is unchecked abortion.

I would also ask a family to pay a fee for every child over x that they had.

I'm only talking about abortions done because of:
"i don't wanna be fat!" or
"i don't want stretch marks!" or
"i'm a stupid teen who keeps having unprotected sex even though people keep saying I should get pills!" or
"i'm too lazy to take birth control. I'll just sleep around with dozens of men and abort babies for the rest of my fertile life." or
"i cheated and I dunno what color the baby is and I don't want my husband to know!" (my personal favorite)
etc.

If a woman had 7 abortions for any of the above reasons, and none of the abortions were medically needed to save her life, then I feel that she should have to start paying for the abortions (going off the wishful thinking that abortions were free like in britan). Two abortions of this type may be needed for "mental health", but seven??

If for some odd reason woman had 6 social abortions and then needed one to save her life, then obviouly she wouldn't have to pay, even if she needed nine more to save her life. Saving her life is completely different.

As for the mental health of the woman, there is something else that would be included with this system. The woman coming in for her sixth (we're saying seven is the one where you stat having to pay) should be given a type of birth control that her body can use.

Abortions because of failed birth control are not on that list, for obvious reasons. Women on birth control are actually trying. I think women who don't try at all are the ones who should start being fined/have to pay outright.

No, I don't want to force a baby on anyone. But I feel responsibility should also be taken. Sex can cause babies. Protecting yourself is the most you can do (while not abstaining) so you shouldn't be punished if science doesn't work.

If a woman is found for whom no birth control works, and she doesn't want a hysterectomy, then she of course would be excluded too. She's not aborting because she is amoral, she's doing it because she has to.

Also, religious reasons would be excluded too. Although if you're not on bc pills cause of religion, I don't see how you can approve of abortion...

I want to punish the women who don't try, who refuse to try. I feel they are disrespecting their bodies.

Are there loopholes here? God yes. But it's a start.