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Q: Ra, Not Parvo..but Then Not Ra...
asked by: Sissytoo on October 19th, 2006
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Hello everyone, me again with an update that I hope helps others.
Well, not to rehash but quick recap...3 yrs ago with painful, stiff, and inflamed joints..Stiff in am for approx 3-4 hrs, pain always...Ra and ana neg then but parvo virus...Gp said may last a few yrs and when I flared gave me 20-40 mg boost of 3-5 days prednisone and ultram 50 mg...Well about 2 weeks ago, 5 days after I saw immunologist/internal dr I had worst flare ever and included knees, ankles, and wrists...Went to gp in ky (we moved from az in 08/05 and first flare here) he said parvovirus can do this for up to 10 years gave me 60 mg prednisone tid, 40 mg tid, 20 mg tid, 15 mg injection of decadron (steroid) and 50 mg every 4 hrs ultram said come back if no help...Well day 5 and I could hardly move the 1st 3 hours of the day and pain at 7/10, I went back. He did xrays and called me to his office to look at them...Moderate to severe joint damage with bone loss/changes in hands, wrists, and knees. He told me then ra as I already fit 5 of 7 criteria, need 4 for a diagnosis. He then did full arthritis bloodwork and said he would put me on other ra meds when bloodwork back in 1 week. So, I go in today and he is stumped, blood work looks great...Borderline ra factor, ana neg, sed rate 1 with high wbc counts...He said not ra as ra neg, then I reminded him he drew blood after tx of decadron and prednisone...He said ok, other than ra and ana bloodwork no good. When I went back the previous week he put me on relafan 2000 mg daily and upped the ultram to 100 mg every 4 hours prn, he said I could stop all meds and have blood work repeated, but that he would just tx me for flares with whatever I wanted...I asked him about xrays and he had no answer for me. Gave me a 6 mnth script of relafan and said if flares get worse or meds quit working to come back and he will give me whatever I want. I dont think so...I want to stop this disease from eating my bones and joints, not just make the pain and inflammation go away, I am only 33...Well I guess I will hold out for immunologist appt at uk next week, his wife is a rheumy and I think I will make an appointment for her. I thought I finally had answer, others encourage me to see rheumy as many ra sufferes are never ra and some people with no disease process are ra ...Any suggestions out there?? Sorry so lengthy! Thanks for listening to me rant and rave...So dang frustrating!! Evil or Very Mad Shocked Sad
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lexus
replied on October 22nd, 2006
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Sissytoo... Ra, Parvo Virus??
Hi I would really like a reply on this subject as I have never found anyone that knew what this parvo thingy was except me.... Reply please..
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Sissytoo
replied on October 23rd, 2006
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More On Parvovirus I Have Found...
Hi! I am glad to help where I can. I have spoken with several people and done alot of research lately...We all probably have. My gp office called out of the blue friday and wanted to referr me to a rheumy at the arthritis clinic of lexington, I go nov 8th. Bottom line, any arthralgia lasting more than a few years from parvo virus is very rare and should be under the care of rhuemy if you have parvovirus arthralgia. About 50-70 % of adult population has had parvovirus, and the antibodies are with you for life. It is also a common belief that ra can be brought on by a virus such as this. I did see a rhemy per my gp when all this started, but he did nothing except look at my hands and say...Yeah parvo, what should I do about it? Also with parvovirus there should be no joint or bone damage, kind of like the arthralgia with lupus. I think, and I do know what opinnions are like and I am not a dr, but if your arthralgia continues after a year, xrays should be done to see if any damage occuring or not. My biggest point is this....Keep pushing until a dr does something about it...Don't wait like I did for 3 yrs just to find out that this had gone into ra and it has been left to do moderate to severe joint and bone damage, that can't be fixed now...The truth is it will be another month probably before I am able to get on any meds that will infact slow down the damage such as antira and disease modifiers...Also I have found a ton of people that are seronegative ra..Meaning they are ra negative but have the disease...I am sure this is my case...But anyone not rheumy is leary of diagnosing without that positive ra factor...Even in my case with xrays showing moderate to severe joint damange and bone loss/changes in hands, knees, and ankles....This am my elbows are killing me and hot and red...Can't stand to bend or straighten them...May miss work for the first time in 1 year and 3 months as I have not slept a wink because of them...All we can do is push and push until we get to the right Dr....I don't care what they say, demand xrays if pain lasts more than 1 year...Be your own advocate!! If you have any more questions I will be happy to answer what I can...Hang in there! Tammy
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JJ7240
replied on January 6th, 2007
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On the Subject of Parvovirus
:d hi, this is my first post so forgive me if I do this wrong. Had parvo 8 years ago and now have arthritis from this. Have also been diagnosed with osteoporosis in the spine. When first diagniosed told that it would clear up after a few months but here we are 8 years later and still suffering. I like many others have found limited information on the long term prospects. I developed this directly from the parvovirus which was detected within two weeks of infection (i caught it from a nurse who had been tested because of her work). I feel fairly confidant of the diagnosis but am surprised at how long this has gone on for. I have now adjusted my life to deal with it and feel better for this.
I have pain and swelling in just about every joint in my body, inflammation of tendons and ligaments, problems with my neck which have degenerative arthritis and also wrists. I also have back pain following a fall which has something to do with the osteoporosis!!!!
I avoid pain medication as much as I can and use mind over matter to try and deal with pain. I think that I am lucky in that I have a very high pain threshold. I also try to use exercise to help with the stiffness and sometimes this helps the pain too. I was on a cox2 inhibitor which worked very well but the dr has just changed this due to health risks.
I can't work due to this and so have found other ways to enjoy my life. It is very isolating but I have a positive outlook and I think this helps me. I have to say that for the first three years I was depressed, but once I gave in to the fact that this wasn't going to go away and made some changes things got better.
I would be happy to talk to anyone else with this problem and if anyone find out anything interesting or helpful that would be great. Even the worldwide web seems to be lacking as far as this illness goes.
Good luck to everyone and thank you for reading this.
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debbyftm
replied on June 21st, 2007
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Hi
I have RA and possibly AS....blood test show HLAB27 also!
anyway i had parvo 5 years ago while i was 10 weeks pregnant...i was very ill..thought i was dying....its a bloody horrible virus to get!
I told my GP about the parvo after i had been told i was RA and HLAB27 , but he didnt think the 2 were connected....but i do.....something inside me tells me that the parvo is what triggered my arthritis!
Cant get my GP to think the same tho! Very Happy
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