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Q: Excessive Pre-ejaculate/ed

asked by: levirobbinz on October 17th, 2006

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I am an otherwise healthy, physically fit 24-year-old male that has suffered from the same problem for years. As a result of this problem I have never been able to have intercourse.

Upon mild arousal, whether it be alone or with a female, I immediately begin leaking out pre-ejaculate. The amount is extremely excessive and I am positive that it is pre-ejaculate. This happens without even having an erection. It just continues to leak until my pants are soaked and i'm sexually exhausted...Unable to obtain or maintain an erection.

I have been told by countless doctors that the problem is psychological...But that is a ridiculous answer. My guess is that they don't have a solution to the problem so they resort to the generic "psychological" answer. I can simply hold hands with a girl and be completely relaxed and content...Without even having sex on my mind...And pre-ejaculate begins to leak out.

I decided to do some research on the internet and found that the problem may be due to a weakened pc muscle caused by excessive masturbation. I have masturbated probably 7-10 times/week for the last 10 years. I started taking fish oil, borage oil, and l-arginine daily and reduced my masturbation frequency to 2-3 times/week. I have been following this routine for about 6 weeks now and while my sex drive seems to be slightly better and I have been getting more spontaneous erections I see no improvement in the pre-ejaculate leaking issues.

I'm positive there are other people out there with this problem. I have searched the boards and found several posts even here on ehealth regarding this issue. None of the people seemed to receive a satisfactory response. I've seen terms such as "precum flooding" used here as well. Is that what this is? Are there any suggestions? This has been going on for probably 6 years now and doesn't seem to be getting better. Doctors have no answer for me and it's destroying my life! I don't know where to turn.

Thanks for taking the time to read through this and I would really appreciate any input on the subject. Suggestions or possible solutions...As well as any input from other people that have suffered/are suffering from this problem. At this point i'm willing to try just about anything. I refuse to believe that there is no solution and that I am doomed to live with this problem forever.

Replies(18)

leuv21

replied on October 17th, 2006

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Re: Excessive Pre-ejaculate/ed

levirobbinz wrote:

upon mild arousal, whether it be alone or with a female, I immediately begin leaking out pre-ejaculate.........Unable to obtain or maintain an erection.

I have been told by countless doctors that the problem is psychological... Doomed to live with this problem forever.

hello.. Pff your post here surprised me a bit. Actually I got a problem: I cannot maintain an erection for quite long and doctors said to me the same thing as you- psychological disorders - which I sincerely consider obsolete.

Where did you find on the net that mastubating for long does reduce sexual power?? Maybe that my case.. Got anything about all this??

Rocky52

replied on October 22nd, 2006

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I think what your doctor said is right. Although you may not realise or think this is right but it could be that you feel a bit nervous when you are alone with a girl, or even watching some sort of sexual act on television makes you feel the need for sex. I've had the same sort of problem, all it was with me was that it was the tension building up with thinking about sex too much. All you need to do is try and concentrate on something completely different from sex for example one of your hobbies, whatever it may be.. Cars, music, drawing anything to take your mind off of it. Don't expect an immediate stop to pre-mature ejaculation, it takes time, and I don't think theres anything physically wrong, it happens to us all.
Good luck

Stan

replied on October 22nd, 2006

Moderator

This may sound silly but I know about this from hypoglycemia. Try adding a good bit of garlic to your cooking and possibly take some garlic tablets throughout the day. Watch what happens.

levirobbinz

replied on November 16th, 2006

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rocky52 wrote:

i think what your doctor said is right. Although you may not realise or think this is right but it could be that you feel a bit nervous when you are alone with a girl, or even watching some sort of sexual act on television makes you feel the need for sex. I've had the same sort of problem, all it was with me was that it was the tension building up with thinking about sex too much. All you need to do is try and concentrate on something completely different from sex for example one of your hobbies, whatever it may be.. Cars, music, drawing anything to take your mind off of it. Don't expect an immediate stop to pre-mature ejaculation, it takes time, and I don't think theres anything physically wrong, it happens to us all.
Good luck

even if i'm with a girl and merely thinking about sex it can't be normal to "leak" pre-ejaculate from my flaccid penis until the point of sexual exhaustion. It is very difficult for me to achieve an erection to any degree with a girl because I am already exhausted and my libido is gone within 15 minutes of even cuddling with them on the couch.

Taking my mind off of sex doesn't help me to achieve an erection in any way. I try to relax as much as possible but it's more and more difficult knowing that i'm leaking pre-ejaculate and that I won't be able to obtain an erection. Sure there is some psychological cause...But the underlying causes is the physical cause that is leading to the psycological issues. It's a vicious cycle!

I finally saw another doctor and received a prescription for both cialis and viagra. I tried the viagra first and I can achieve a very strong erection upon stimulation...But still have the issues with "leaking" and the erection loses strength and my libido drops. It would likely be possible for me to sustain a strong enough erection to have intercourse...But even with viagra things don't work exactly how they should.

With cialis I noticed little-to-no effect. The same problems were present and knowing that I was on ed medication and still havinig problems made the evening even more frustrating.

This stuff shouldn't be happening at 24! Unfortunately I don't have a very supportive girlfriend. We've been together for a few months and things are great...But she is getting very frustrated with my sexual problems and the relationship is deteriorating. All of my past relationships have come to an end for the same reason. I'm beginning to wonder if I will ever be able to be in a normal sexual relationship without relying on viagra for the rest of my life. Like I said...Even with viagra things aren't perfect by any means.

The pre-ejaculate (precum) flooding is ridiculous. Just to clarify: it is completely clear and definitely pre-ejaculate. By the end of a sexually frustrating evening the volume of pre-ejaculate that leaks out is probably equivilant to about 2-3 normal ejaculations.

This is killing my self-esteem, my relationships, and is starting to take over my life. Sometimes i'm so embarrassed and upset afterward I just feel like crawling in a hole alone somewhere and never coming out.

My blood tests all come back fine. I'm in great physical shape. My exercise has dropped off quite a bit in the last few months...But the problem has been going on for years and years and throughout that time i've been very active. This problem is literally causing me to lose motivation to live my life!

levirobbinz

replied on November 16th, 2006

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stan stepanic wrote:

this may sound silly but I know about this from hypoglycemia. Try adding a good bit of garlic to your cooking and possibly take some garlic tablets throughout the day. Watch what happens.

thank you very much for your advice - I really appreciate it. I attempted adding garlic tablets to my daily regime but haven't noticed any real benefits. I will ask my doctor on my next visit about hypoglycemia to find out if i'm possibly suffering from it.

For anyone who cares here is the list of vitamins/herbs I have been taking daily for at least the last 45 days:

l-arginine 500mg: (2) am; (2) pm
fish oil 1500mg - epa 480mg dha 400mg: (1) am; (1) pm
borage oil 500mg: (1) am; (2) pm
korean ginseng 100mg standardized extract: (2) am; (1) pm
ginkgo biloba 120mg standardized extract: (1) am
centum multivitamin/multimineral supp: (1) am; (1) pm

mc11

replied on December 28th, 2006

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Man it sounds like you are feeling really like crap. I don´t have that problem but I used to have trouble getting erections and that undermined my life lots too, so hey I just wanted to tell you keep going and you´ll find a solution.

One thing I can recommend definitely is to not do much foreplay, I mean just try going directly to sex and stimulation, I mean if you can get an erection b4 all your precum is out and you feel exausted then just put it in and forget about that caca!!!! I just image that for the precum to come out you need some time so do it before.

Good luck man, body problems affect most people and they really suck, but they come from the mind and really we have the power to solve them, is just mind work

noice

replied on February 5th, 2007

New User

Sorry to bring up an old thread,
but this is exactly what I am suffering from. Any sort of advice would a godsend.

blue5548

replied on February 6th, 2007

New User

Me too...I think its because of chronic prostatitis

HealthySex

replied on February 6th, 2007

Experienced User

If you have prostatitis you might want to look into prostate nourishing supplements like saw palmetto, pygeum, etc. Often found together in one product.

You might also want to research prostate massage. Check out the massagers and forums at highisland. Google that and prostate massage and you'll find it.

chacha

replied on March 13th, 2009

New User

premature ejaculation

i also have the problem of premature ejaculation though till now i had not met any sexual intercourse but am worried what will happen when i will got married.Due to this should i cancel my marriage bcos i PE in just 2 seconds.

cantbebothered

replied on May 19th, 2009

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Have you tried strengthening the PC muscle with Kegel exercises?

mohanan_k

replied on October 20th, 2009

New User

I think the problem is because of excessive sexual activity which caused a change in your reproductive system. I have this same problem and went through a number of articles in science journals. The pre-ejaculate is secreted by Cowper's glands and bulbo-urethral glands which secrete in response to an hormone called dihydro testosterone (DHT). The drugs called dutasteride or finasteride can reduce the levels of DHT and can cure your problem. I am not sure about the side effects and therefore suggest you to consult your doctor before taking one of these two drugs. However, I would suggest you to be moderate in your sexual activity which is the root cause of the problem.

W0LF

replied on October 22nd, 2009

Extremely eHealthy

If you are having trouble becomming erect or maintaining erection stop taking drugs or rememedies intended to decrease your libedo, reduce your arousal responce or in any other way foil your attempts to become erect.
Do not take natural drugs that increase arousal responce or DHT production such as Ginsing or Ginko Biloba in combination with remedies that reduce your arousal responce unless told to by a board certified Naturopath. Listen to your doctor, stop self-proscribing.

Also your penis is not a balloon filled with pre-ejaculate. You will not lose erection after creating some set amount of self-lubricaiton. You can fill a 40oz bottle with pre-ejaculate without losing your erection so long as your body is lubricated enough to create the fluid and you can maintain arousal for that long. Producing excess is not your problem and it's not abnormal to produce an ounce and a half of pre-ejaculate during normal sex if you're sufficiently aroused.

RealityTimes09

replied on October 23rd, 2009

Experienced User

levirobbinz, Your exactly right suffering is believing and the doctors have no clue thats why they pull the Psychological Card in order to weasel their way out of helping you. You are already taking fish oil and I would stay on that the ginko and ginseng it would be good to cycle on and off those since the body will get use to them over time. I would drop the Synthetic Centrum multi-vitamin for an Organic brand. You can also try 5-HTP, L-Tryptophan and St. Johns Wort to slow down the pre-cum, raising serotonin levels helps alot in this case. If you can keep your ejaculation frequency down low atleast 7-10 days apart the nerve should eventually get stronger and the leakage should clear up.

W0LF

replied on October 23rd, 2009

Extremely eHealthy

levirobbinz
I cannot strongly emphasize enough that you should listen to your doctor and see a psychologist as referred rather than taking the advice of some guy off the internet. Your doctor assists people with health problems for a living. It's his 9-5. If someone on this forum told you how to do your job you'd laugh at them. Give your doctor the same courtesy you'd ask others to give you. If you honestly don't have faith in your MD's prognosis get a second opinion.

smackdownraw

replied on November 3rd, 2009

New User

stop the l-arginine

dude, lots of people take l-arginine to INCREASE precum. How long have you been taking that stuff? I'd stop and see if that helps.

Drewson

replied on November 9th, 2009

New User

Have a look at a previous discussion here:

http://ehealthforum.com/health/ejecting-fl uid-t205927.html

Drewson

replied on November 9th, 2009

New User

Depends on how old your are and how much experience you have had. At the end of the day it's a good thing as it is the body’s natural lubricant. Young guys generally have more pre cum than older guys. Also, the longer you are aroused without ejaculation the more pre cum you will produce. Also non circumcised males have greater sensitivity of the glands head of the penis and therefore can produce more pre cum.

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