Re: You Ppl Have No Clue What Abortion Is! Posted: 12-28-06 06:59am
getthefacts101
wrote:
most people have no clue
what abortion
is.
wrong, it's a legal requirement that a
woman is aware of the procedure/what will
happen if it's carried out/possible risks
of the termination/what will happen if
it's not carried out. As for the "unborn
baby" (correctly known as the
zygote/embryo/feotus but whatever you want
to call it is fine) basic human biology is
not exactly something that is hidden from
people
getthefacts101
wrote:
people think its simple, a
mass of cells being destroyed or an unborn
baby being killed, they don't know much
beyond that.
who would these people be then because i'm
not aware of anyone who thinks of abortion
in such a simplistic manner.
getthefacts101
wrote:
it's a horrible, painful and
dramatic experience for both family and
the unborn
baby.
have you had one?
Have you some other knowledge that doctors
haven't figured out about the foetus
feeling pain because most abortions are
carried out before 13weeks and the general
consensus amongst physicians etc is that
pain cannot be felt before the third
trimester.
getthefacts101
wrote:
the protective fluild that
surrounds the child is broken and then the
limbs are torn apart from the unborn
baby
.
So you are saying this happens in every
abortion? If so, you don't know much
about abortion then lol
getthefacts101
wrote:
keep inmind this child feels
everything!
no it doesn't
getthefacts101
wrote:
anyone who agree's with
abortion is a heartless killer and should
go to hell! Rot you stupid
hoes!
lol is this guy for real??
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Posted: 12-28-06 07:06am
nightangel73
wrote:
eiri but she was a killer. It's the
thruth and you can't deny it. She
wouldn't like that you abort so obviously
she now realizes it was
wrong.
there may be many reasons for a woman not
wanting to abort other than her thinking
she was wrong. I wouldn't want a
daughter of mine to abort because it's a
difficult decision and people get all
kinds of b*llsh*t remarks following
because of small minded idiots - that
doesn't mean to say I believe mine was
wrong or that I wouldn't support someone
through it.
I'm not sure where this misconception
comes from where people assume that
pro-choice think abortion is some fun
thing to do or nothing really - that's
just not true, it's like any other medical
procedure (sure as hell aint pretty and
can be painful), we just happen to believe
the woman has the right to control her own
body and not play host to a z/e/f if she
doesn't want to.
oh, and I also object to being called a
wh*re and heartless, being that it isn't
true and all.
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Posted: 12-29-06 00:16am
moo
wrote:
I wouldn't want a daughter of mine to
abort because it's a difficult decision
and why it is a difficult decision? Isn't
it because you are conscious that you are
going to termintate a human life that you
are well aware it's there? Because if it
were not a human life then that would be
an easy decision but you are not talking
about animal life you are talking about a
human life from your loins.
moo
wrote:
we just happen to believe the woman has
the right to control her own body and not
play host to a z/e/f if she doesn't want
to.
and we too believe that a women has the
right to control her body difference is
that killing human life we don't consider
controling the body but committing a
crime.
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Posted: 12-29-06 07:29am
nightangel73
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and why it is a difficult decision?
Isn't it because you are conscious that
you are going to termintate a human life
that you are well aware it's there?
Because if it were not a human life then
that would be an easy decision but you are
not talking about animal life you are
talking about a human life from your
loins.
no, do you really understand nothing about
women who abort? Clearly not.
It's a difficult decision because it's
potentially life changing - do you
seriously think the only reason people
have a hard time choosing between
adoption/parenting/abortion is because of
the termination??
It wouldn't make a difference whether it
was an animal/vegetable or human z/e/f
(it's not all about the foetus remember),
it still wouldn't be an easy decision
(although i'd be extremely worried if I
found out I was carrying a howler monkey's
offspring )
nightangel73
wrote:
and we too believe that a women has the
right to control her body difference is
that killing human life we don't consider
controling the body but committing a
crime.
crimes are defined by law so your opinion
is highly misguided. The fact is that the
z/e/f is completely reliant on the womans
body and she has every right to choose
whether or not it remains so in an
unwanted pregnancy. I don't really
understand why people think that an
individuals uterus and z/e/f has anything
to do with them
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Posted: 12-29-06 09:46am
I think everyone should be able to do as
they wish with their bodies (up to a
certain extent) I also don't think men
should be making decisions on abortion
laws. What do they know about it? It's
not something they will ever have to do.
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Posted: 12-30-06 01:45am
moo
wrote:
crimes are defined by law so your opinion
is highly
misguided.
and the law of god says:
"thou shall not kill" (exodus 20:13;
deuteronomy 5:17)
so it is well a crime.
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Posted: 12-30-06 01:50am
lil_blaze2004
wrote:
it's not something they
will ever have to
do.
and it is something I will never have to
do as well. I would never consider
abortion.
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Posted: 12-30-06 11:00am
nightangel73
wrote:
moo
wrote:
crimes are defined by law so your opinion
is highly
misguided.
and the law of god says:
"thou shall not kill" (exodus 20:13;
deuteronomy 5:17)
so it is well a
crime.
nope sorrry hunny it aint a crime bible
humper,l its not only legal its not even
killing as per our law system. The ten
commandments have been removed from our
court houses because no religion should
take priority over our law system f*ck
that leads to corruption.
Blaze is right though men should have a
right to voice their opinion but I feel
woman should be in on making abortion
laws, they become killers when the mother
and kid die cause the mothers a person.
Anyways get the facts straight and not
from the bible it aint going to do you any
good!
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Posted: 12-30-06 12:30pm
nightangel73
wrote:
moo
wrote:
crimes are defined by law so your opinion
is highly
misguided.
and the law of god says:
"thou shall not kill" (exodus 20:13;
deuteronomy 5:17)
so it is well a
crime.
the bible is not law. Stop using it as
such. This is america, not 134 .B.C.E in
the middle east.
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Posted: 12-31-06 12:26pm
cowboys
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
nightangel73
wrote:
moo
wrote:
crimes are defined by law so your opinion
is highly
misguided.
and the law of god says:
"thou shall not kill" (exodus 20:13;
deuteronomy 5:17)
so it is well a
crime.
the bible is not law. Stop using it as
such. This is america, not 134 .B.C.E
in the middle
east.
does not your oath of allegiance state ""
in god we trust ""
also do you not swear on a bible over
there do not your judges take an oath
holding the bible. So yes religion or at
least the bible [ that book you seem to
hate so much ] does play a part n law
even in such misguided countrys as
america.
"in god we trust" is on money, and "god"
could refer to yaweh, allah, ghenesha or
zeus for all we know.
You can actually refuse to swear over the
bible in courts if you are not christian.
They can't force you to do something
against your religion. I believe you make
the oath over a lawbook instead then.
If they do force you, i'd like to fight
that. If they counter with "it's just
tradition" i'd say it's a tradition that
makes it looks like we don't
have seperation of church and state, when
it is specifically in our laws that we
should.
I don't hate anything, especially not an
inanimate object; that's just silly. I
dislike the people who swear it is literal
truth; and then when oresented with its
inconcsistencies, wiggle around and say
they don't matter; that it doesn't hve to
make sense, "just believe".
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Posted: 12-31-06 13:03pm
cowboys
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
nightangel73
wrote:
moo
wrote:
crimes are defined by law so your opinion
is highly
misguided.
and the law of god says:
"thou shall not kill" (exodus 20:13;
deuteronomy 5:17)
so it is well a
crime.
the bible is not law. Stop using it as
such. This is america, not 134 .B.C.E
in the middle
east.
does not your oath of allegiance state ""
in god we trust ""
also do you not swear on a bible over
there do not your judges take an oath
holding the bible. So yes religion or at
least the bible [ that book you seem to
hate so much ] does play a part n law
even in such misguided countrys as
america.
technically, the pledge instigated in 1882
and has been changed over the years to
this: "i pledge allegiance to the flag of
the united states of america, and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation
under god, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all" and they make the
schoolkids say it, although i'll be darned
if I knew what all those words meant when
I was in first grade! There's been some
movement towards deletion of the phrase,
"under god". Also, a bit of trivia,
"under god" was not actually a part of the
pledge until 1954.
It's a bit ironic, if you think about what
was happening in american history in the
1950's.
I wouldn't say it now; to me, it implies a
kind of blind patriotism towards our
country regardless of the acts it
commits.
But yes, cowboys, you are correct-there is
significant usage of christian ideology in
not just law, but many other facets of
american society.
Many believe that now america is becoming
more diverse and the diverse populations
are being accepted into mainstream
culture, there is a legit need to
diversify all aspects of american life-and
I think the best way to do it is to nix
all the references and slant towards
christianity. The christian god, as he
is worshipped today, only divides, not
unites.
I am glad to see you on here, cowboys.
If you can stand it, i'd like to read what
you have to say more often.
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Posted: 01-01-07 21:26pm
eiri
wrote:
nightangel73
wrote:
moo
wrote:
crimes are defined by law so your opinion
is highly
misguided.
and the law of god says:
"thou shall not kill" (exodus 20:13;
deuteronomy 5:17)
so it is well a
crime.
the bible is not law. Stop using it as
such. This is america, not 134 .B.C.E
in the middle
east.
eiri I understand you are not christian
and therefore you don't believe in the law
of god. But you have to respect the
millions of christians who do believe.
We understand the law of god and the law
of governments are different. But both
are real laws to us. And just because
you are not christians you can't tell us
christians how to call the law of god.
That's our belief okay. Just be careful
because whether you like or not you live
in a predominantly christian country and
you will be dealing with christians for
the remaining of your life.
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Posted: 01-01-07 21:41pm
nightangel73
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
nightangel73
wrote:
moo
wrote:
crimes are defined by law so your opinion
is highly
misguided.
and the law of god says:
"thou shall not kill" (exodus 20:13;
deuteronomy 5:17)
so it is well a
crime.
the bible is not law. Stop using it
as such. This is america, not 134
.B.C.E in the middle
east.
eiri I understand you are not christian
and therefore you don't believe in the law
of god. But you have to respect the
millions of christians who do believe.
We understand the law of god and the law
of governments are different. But both
are real laws to us. And just because
you are not christians you can't tell us
christians how to call the law of god.
That's our belief okay. Just be
careful because whether you like or not
you live in a predominantly christian
country and you will be dealing with
christians for the remaining of your
life.
i respect your believe, however, I don't
care if the entire planet was christian
and I was satanist; you do not have a
right to base our collective government of
of your religious beliefs!
you can "call the law of god" anything you
want. You cannot force someone to not
murder, cheat, or steal, just
because your religion says it is wrong.
You need an actual reason for it being
wrong.
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Posted: 01-01-07 21:47pm
eiri
wrote:
you cannot force someone to
not murder, cheat, or steal, just
because your religion says it is wrong.
You need an actual reason for it being
wrong.
and I sure has never forced anyone to not
homicide, cheat etc etc. You can go
ahead and kill anyone you want eiri.
Btw happy new year eiri! This was my last
christmas as single woman. Wow this will
be a very exciting year for me!
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Posted: 01-01-07 23:30pm
nightangel73
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
you cannot force someone to
not murder, cheat, or steal, just
because your religion says it is wrong.
You need an actual reason for it being
wrong.
and I sure has never forced anyone to not
not a nice act, cheat etc etc. You can
go ahead and kill anyone you want eiri.
Btw happy new year eiri! This was my
last christmas as single woman. Wow this
will be a very exciting year for
me!
congrats on your engagement
by force, I mean laws. But laws based on
religion and nothing else are not good
in a modern world that has many religions.
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Posted: 01-02-07 19:17pm
nightangel73
wrote:
eiri I understand you are
not christian and therefore you don't
believe in the law of god. But you have
to respect the millions of christians who
do believe. We understand the law of god
and the law of governments are different.
But both are real laws to us. And just
because you are not christians you can't
tell us christians how to call the law of
god. That's our belief okay. Just be
careful because whether you like or not
you live in a predominantly christian
country and you will be dealing with
christians for the remaining of your
life.
i just want to bring it up again at the
risk of sounding like a broken record...So
that every time you start to feel
self-righteous and holy in your ways you
remember what you are; you broke your own
christian law, so suck it up and keep your
piehole closed about "the law of god" and
all this holy sanctity malarky.
Yeah, yeah, 'we're all sinners' and 'god
forgives'. Whatever...If you can't even
follow the simple rule laid out in front
of you-keep your cooter empty until you
have a ring on your finger-you've got no
room to 1. Judge (remember the 'women are
sluts if...' condemnation you gave
earlier?) 2. Yap on and on about god's
law 3. Quote biblical verses as
suggestions for ways to live.
Amen.
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Posted: 01-03-07 00:20am
birch
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whatever...If you can't
even follow the simple rule laid out in
front of you-keep your cooter empty until
you have a ring on your finger-you've got
no room to 1. Judge (remember the 'women
are highly availables if...' condemnation
you gave earlier?) 2. Yap on and on
about god's law 3. Quote biblical verses
as suggestions for ways to live.
Amen.
hey I have got a ring!! It's a gorgeous 1
carat esmerald cut completetly colorless
diamond (these are the rarest and purest
in the world) custom set horizontally in a
love story brand diamond white gold ring.
So honey trust me I have got a ring. I do look forward
for the matching wedding band which has
another line of princess cut diamonds.
Omg it is so pretty!! My fiance is so
sweeett!!
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Posted: 01-03-07 02:09am
nightangel73
wrote:
birch
wrote:
whatever...If you can't
even follow the simple rule laid out in
front of you-keep your cooter empty until
you have a ring on your finger-you've got
no room to 1. Judge (remember the
'women are highly availables if...'
condemnation you gave earlier?) 2. Yap
on and on about god's law 3. Quote
biblical verses as suggestions for ways to
live.
Amen.
hey I have got a ring!! It's a gorgeous
1 carat esmerald cut completetly colorless
diamond (these are the rarest and purest
in the world) custom set horizontally in a
love story brand diamond white gold ring.
So honey trust me I have got a ring.
I do look forward
for the matching wedding band which has
another line of princess cut diamonds.
Omg it is so pretty!! My fiance is so
sweeett!!
that would be an engagement ring - not a
wedding ring. You are
having sex outside of marriage. That was
birch's point and you know it.
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Posted: 01-03-07 02:51am
nightangel73
wrote:
birch
wrote:
whatever...If you can't
even follow the simple rule laid out in
front of you-keep your cooter empty until
you have a ring on your finger-you've got
no room to 1. Judge (remember the
'women are highly availables if...'
condemnation you gave earlier?) 2. Yap
on and on about god's law 3. Quote
biblical verses as suggestions for ways to
live.
Amen.
hey I have got a ring!! It's a gorgeous
1 carat esmerald cut completetly colorless
diamond (these are the rarest and purest
in the world) custom set horizontally in a
love story brand diamond white gold ring.
So honey trust me I have got a ring.
I do look forward
for the matching wedding band which has
another line of princess cut diamonds.
Omg it is so pretty!! My fiance is so
sweeett!!
yeah, "honey", but you had sex long before
then so hush. You told all of us, so no
hiding from it.
)
