Thanks for the responses. Dsmith and sandyallen. He was diagnosed by 5 separate specialists, or so he said. He has bipolar 2. But I always thought his moods were extreme, especially given the medications he is taking and the fact that he has taken them consistently for the past 5 years. I cannot image what he would be like without the drugs. It’s scary to think about it actually. I too wonder if there isn’t some “personality disorder” that went undiagnosed. Thanks also for the moral support sandy. I have been seeing my therapist for over 2 years now, and ironically it was my ex that suggested I see someone, since he accused me of being bipolar quite frequently. My daughter also goes, as the breakup affected her immensely since she really had bonded with him. Like I said, he never said goodbye to her and she didn’t deserve that. He just threw us out. Later in an e-mail he told me he doesn’t mean to do bad things, and that most relationships end badly because that is the way of the world. I told him, no, that was the way of his world. It’s been 15 months since we have broken up and I have never received an apology and he never has once asked about my daughter who would have become his stepdaughter. That’s why I posted what I did to warn other women, that this illness is so unpredictable and the saddest thing in all this is that my daughter got hurt the worse and lost a potential daddy. I went into a deep depression after our breakup and became suicidal for 4 months. People who know me, would tell you that is very unusual for me, because I am very upbeat, positive person, always optomistic. It even scared me to the point, that I knew I needed more than just “talk therapy”. I was diagnosed with clinical depression and put on lexapro. I took it for 4 months and then I started having severe side effects, like dizziness and losing my hair. I had lost 20% of my hair. I have been off the drug now for 8 months, and although its been difficult at times, I feel myself getting stronger every day. I now have a new boyfriend that is extremely supportive and luckily lets me talk through the pain that has not entirely gone away. I still love my ex. I wish I didn’t. And friends that have never loved someone that is bipolar just can’t seem to understand, especially given how horribly he treated me and my daughter. I feel like he just can’t help it. I choose to love the real person that I only got to see glimpses of. It’s so sad. I wouldn’t wish this illness on my worst enemy.
Scorpioness. Wow! Thanks for sharing. I have been looking for someone like you to talk to for 15 months now. I have met a lot of parents, friends, husbands and wives on line regarding their stories, but yours is so similar to mine. How long were you two together? See my comments below….
1. Although my ex-bf and I didnt have anything in common I think that is what drew us close together. We were both equally passionate and intense.
He was very passionate and intense. I must rephrase that in the beginning, everything was hot, steamy passionate and very very intense. That’s what drew me to him. I found some of his interests to be immature. For instance he was very into video games and collecting toys. Yet he is a 37 year old man. He was a star wars collector, which I thought was very cool. His mother thought it was “too much”. After our breakup he sold many items on ebay which made me sad, because I knew how much they meant to him. I wonder if she had said something to him or if he did it to prove how sad I made him and he was getting rid of the things he loved most. In fact he sold a lot of things after the breakup that we enjoyed doing together, like videos we watched, etc.
2.I must disagree with the "lack of showing affection" as being a bipolar characteristic, simply because my ex was the opposite. He was very affectionate. Holding hands in public, kissing, and he was actually the cuddler. I hate to cuddle a lot...He enjoyed it a lot.
I have heard this a lot from other people. That bipolar people are affectionate, but when they become depressive, they want to be left alone. Mine did inappropriate things, like grabbing my crotch in public or pulling up my shirt when his parents left the room. It’s like he wanted to get “caught” doing something bad. I think that’s why he would post on the porn web site. It was bad and he wanted others to know he was doing a bad thing.
3.When it came to sex...I have never ever had sex be more passionate and intense the way that sex was with him. In any event, it was me, (me being a masochist) who actually wanted to have it be not passionate, however, he always knew exactly what to do.
I am going to assume that since your ex was on and off again with is medication (it sounds like) led to that passionate sex. I just think with mine the medicine really inhibited him to feel sexual yet I don’t think he was willing to admit it. Instead he would say mean things to me like, “i felt more sexy with the nameless faceless women on line then I do with you now, or ever did.” it really was a major hit to my self esteem, because at the time, I really did feel like it was me that wasn’t “turning” him on. We would have sex maybe 4 times a month and we were supposed to be getting married. I tried to tell him in a constructive way that maybe he should have the medication adjusted, and he would take pot shots at me, blaming me. The first thing I did after our breakup was to call his ex girlfriend and we had the best heart to heart talk for over an hour regarding him and I had found out it was worse for her. They dated for a year and a half and he never got off with her during sex. She said it felt forced and she felt he wasn’t turned on by her. Her words were “it was horrible”. It made me feel better, knowing it really wasn’t me after all, but made me feel sad again for him, because he is unable to be “intimate”. I know there are other ways to be intimate, but it can get boring when only one person is having fun.
4. Ok, your number 4 just sounds like a psycho, and I personally never experienced anything like that, however, when we first got together we both told eachother what we expected from the relationship. He was 8 yrs older, but we were both in the same level.
I learned that it is typical for bipolars to rush things. When they are up they are up and everything is now, now, now.
5. Just because he told you he loved u after the 5th day, I would not classify that as being negative. However, yes, bipolars tend to be some of the most intense people on this planet. I think that is what attracted me the most.
Actually what is really weird about the “i love you” thing is that he said it in passing. He hugged me and said “love you” but before that he said it in an e-mail only after the 2nd date. I find this highly odd.
6.Yes, euphoric. Sounds way too familiar.
7.When it came to sex in public, he was actually not like that what-so-ever. It took me a while to make him agree to let me go down on him in the movie theatre. And when were at the store I was more sexual ( before you guys judge me, I would just like to inform you that I had recently had lost my virginity and was very sexual in his presence.)
i honestly think my ex participated in group sex prior to me, because he would mention it often and I also think he may have had call girls come over and sexually please him. I was always under the impression he was hiding a deep secret regarding sex. It’s like regular sex wasn’t enough to please him.
8.Sexually, he was actually relieved I had not had many partners. (him being the first guy I made love to.)--( the first night I met him I lost my virginity to a friend of a friend because when I met him I was mesmerized by him, and since he was older I did not want him to reject me due to my lack of sexual experience. (i had just turned 21 the day before). --i regret it, but he knew this and actually always said I should have waited and he would not have rejected me for being a virgin (like someone else had done.)
i had found out that my ex lied to me or perhaps lied to the girl he dated before me. He told me he had only been with 13 women. With her, he said it was 53 and even bragged about it. I honestly don’t know the truth, only that he said he had done a lot of sexually promiscuous things in his past, so to me that would be more consistent with her story. I know in general bipolar’s when in the manic stage feel an increase in sexuality and many times go through multiple partners at a time.
11. He did tell me he had a lot of sex his younger years, and was very promiscuous, however, he actually was very obsessive about his health...A little bit too much, and therefore, was against one-night stands.
That’s funny that sounds exactly like my ex. In fact he told me when I met him he imagined the next person he had sex with would be the person he imagined marrying. He said he has been celibate for 15 months now and is “cleansing” himself of me. He used to say he was a sexual camel. I always thought why? If you love someone, you make love to them.
12. He liked porn. I didnt. But I looooooooooooooved watching him watch. =)
15. We really didnt discuss his past experiences, because I really preferred not to. I always say: the past is the past. We're in the present. However, he did mention his past relationships, and he never spoke bad of his exes. He actually was too nice about them, and that would make me soooo jealous.
Mine would bring up an ex from early college and in fact spent quite a bit of money and effort to locate her before our wedding. I wasn’t happy when I found out, but felt he needed closure. I always wonder if he wasn’t doing it with the “hope” he would find her still single. It was devastating.
16. He never said watching others would be fun...But I think watching others would be fun--and I am not bipolar. Not that I am aware of =) (im not angry or possessive enough to be one, I think.) therefore, this statement should not be used to describe a bipolar.
Well your ex admitted to have sexual exploitations in the past correct? Inappropriate sexual behavior is listed as one of the signs to look for in a bipolar personality.
17. I must agree--"extraordinarily bright, but emotionally immature"
19. Agree!~one day he was up the next he was down.
20. As stated before, he was such a cuddler... Except when he stopped taking his meds..He became a different person.
Mine was always taking his medications but found out he was taking too much of one kind and when he weaned himself off it became a different person. Like I said, I can’t imagine what he would be like without the medication.
23. I agree with this one. --- "he had little to no friends" he was a loner, but I didnt mind, because sometimes I needed that intimacy.
I found if I was making time for other friends and not him, this would anger him. He in general didn’t hang out with friends.
24. Agree--"his parents were over involved in his life, yet he was in his mid 30’s."--- he was 1 year shy of it... And actually, I think he was overly involved in his parents life, but that just made him a family person, and me being someone who lacked family life, actually that was something I loved about him.
I have read many story’s where the parents are either too involved or cut off completely. I have tried reaching out to his parents to explain to them what happened in the relationship. They won’t hear any of it and are adamant that “nothing is wrong” with their son. He is really being enabled and that makes me angry and sad. His father plays therapist and they put down therapy for their son as a way to deal with is problems. Very stupid.
26. Agree-- "he had a hard time getting off during sex" that was bc of the meds. They have that side effect. It never bothered me.
28. He was actually more of the giver, and never rubbed it in anyone's face. He actually always wanted to give...And we would have little fights bc I always felt it should be 50/50..Not him having to pay all the time.
Me too. I wanted him to “feel” what I was feeling. When I mentioned seeing someone about it he would turn it around on me and say it was me, that was turning him off sexually.
29. He was the life of the party. And he knew it! He was so gregarious.
30. He never pointed out how much money he spent on me.
I bet my ex has a list lol
34. He spoke very nice about his exes.
37. He actually used to say that he didnt deserve me. That I was too good to him.
He said that to me in the beginning. How long were you with your ex?
39. When we first broke up (this is the second time) he cried to get me back, but we were both so emotionally that I cried as well. I did something horrible to him, and he wanted me back. =( and then the second time, never bad was done, and he doesnt even pick up his calls.
43. Never was controlling or manipulative, howver, towards the end, he just never was around and was too busy with other activities.
45. Realistically, the relationship never would have worked, but he never said it, but always said I was too good for him...And too emotional (towards the end.)
46. Ughhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! --agree~!!!!--during fights he would not answer his phone, turn off the lights at his home and pretend he wasn’t there refusing to speak
50. I was complaining that we rarely had sex. We had it about 6-8 times a week. =( I really exhausted him physically now that I think about it. He exhausted me emotionally.
Wow lucky you. Once when he came over for the weekend he said to me, “we aren’t going to have sex all weekend are we? That’s all we ever do.” what guy says something like that? I was lucky like I said if we had it once a week and like I said, even that felt forced. The more I think about it the more I think he was embarrassed that he couldn’t get off and that he simply was sick of trying.
51. When he knew I wanted sex, he always made an effort, even if he was tired or sleepy.--except when we were ending.
52. He took showers with me a lot, but did prefer his privacy at times...But if I asked him to shower with me, he never turned me down.
54. Towards the end he became suicidal, talking about hating his life and wanting to die. I tried sooo hard to stay to help him, but he shut me out one day out of the blue.
Mine never said he was suicidal but did spent the night in a crisis center when I broke it off with him the first time and then told me about it after the fact. I don’t think his parents ever knew. I just sort of blew it off because I hadn’t been with someone that was bipolar before. I would get many many dark e-mails in which he said the mantras are f-ing with his head, and that he was going to the dark side where no one could help him.
55. Agree-- "told me
constantly he didn’t think anyone could be as supportive and loving as his parents had been in his life"
how odd, that they see their parents as their only link or hope. He told me that if anything ever happened to his parents he couldn’t go on living. Now coming from someone that is 37 that is so sad.
Unfortunately, 56 is also accurate. "said I would end up leaving like all the rest"
they know it. In fact, its just a cycle for them. They will burn through another woman and the cycle continues.
...And lastly. Everyone told me to let him go, because I was in pain with his ups and down. And me being an unstable person as it is, I couldnt handle the extreme unstability he was providing me, however, bipolars need love to do they not? So, I always asked them (my friends) why should they not be in a relationship. Why not? Why cant this work?! Im still so depressed over it (4 months afterwards.) but I really want to know...Who's to say it will not work. Why must they feel unworthy of being loved.
You sound exactly like me. You must be co-dependent and a fixer. I’ve told him that I will always love him and I know there is not another ex girlfriend that even thinks about him anymore like I do. There is not a day that goes by that I don’t think about him. It’s been 15 months since our breakup and we only went out 10 months and I am still reeling from it. He still haunts my soul. He won’t allow me to love him and he won’t accept it. He now has sunk to the bottom of his darkness and there is no reaching him. I know our breakup devastated him and he will continue to blame me for his unhappiness. I am glad your ex was a lot nicer to you. I honestly think in my case he showed me aspects of his personality that he never showed anyone else before and we became very close at one time. He also invested over 25k into our relationship, supporting my daughter and me for several months before we moved in with him, bought us both so many gifts and loaned me money for my business. I think he used the money in exchange for what he couldn’t give me emotionally or sexually. When I told him I was unhappy, he lashed out at me and continues to hate me to this day. I really think if he didn’t suffer from this illness things could have been much different. I also think, had I been educated prior to my involvement with him, I could have handled it much better. If I had the chance and he wanted to get back together, I would do it, only because I haven’t let him go in my heart, but it would take a lot of effort on his end and a lot of therapy. I do think there is hope for him to have a healthy relationship even it its with someone else. But he needs to break away from his parents and start trusting professionals who can help him in the way he needs. But going forward if I met someone else that was bipolar I would honestly run.