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I'm Pro- Choice But...... Posted: 09-08-06 12:02pm


I think everyone has the right to choose what they want but..............But...........What does it u give you women to constantly talk about abortion and show eachother pics and obsess over pro-lifers and insult their beliefs? Really, what does it give you? Its very disturbing ....I mean, you have an abortion and you move on ..I dont get this. Im trying really hard to understand what the fascination with looking at these photos and reading about abortion survivors. Im really curious!

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Posted: 09-08-06 12:08pm


The photos will only ever come from the pro-life side, I think the post with them in over here was to enable people to discuss the way that they are portrayed by thr pro-life side. Personally I don't "obsess" about abortion but I find it hard to believe that some people actually believe they have the right to say what other women should or should not be alowed to do with their bodies. I don't insult pro-life beliefs I just disagree strongly with them. I don't think it's as simple as "you have an abortion and then move on" - it effects everyone differently. For me my abortion just strengthened my view that this is an option that should be available to everyone, whether they chose to use it or not. It's not a subject that is openly talked about because it's still very taboo in general life so it's just a way to discuss things - the same way any other forum on the internet is - I personally don't understand why people would want to discuss star wars or various other things but people do!

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Posted: 09-08-06 12:14pm


There is a big difference between dicussing hobbies and movies over abortion. You cannot deny that some people in here are quite frankly very scary people and are obsessive. Like, cambion...What the hell is up with this person...Its almost as she like to read about the abortion survivors ann loves these pics ...Like she salivates and wants to eat them for lunch....There was nothing smart about her post on the survivors...Whats fair is fair ....I mean , ive had an abortion years ago but I would never sit there and call the ones whom believe in abortion crazy fanatics...To them its wrong..Let them have thier opinion.

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Re: I'm Pro- Choice But......
Posted: 09-08-06 12:15pm

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really, what does it give you?

if it is so disturbing to do it, why are you here doing the same fucking thing?

hey loser...I dont come here everyday...I saw her post on the front page and was curious as to what she had to say...So stop cursing you sound like a retard with nothing better to say.

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Posted: 09-08-06 12:35pm

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there is a big difference between dicussing hobbies and movies over abortion.

maybe, it's along the same lines as discussing politics or even other controversial things (i.E stem cell research) which happens too. It bois down to the fact it's a way to voice an opinion, whatever the issue, if you feel it's important then isn't it logical to have the freedom to express that?

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i agree that cambion and those pro-choicers are all idiots...They sit there and look at this stuff almost as if they enjoy it and want to eat the babies for lunch.....What does it give them to sit there all day discuss abortions and look at photos of dead fetuses ....I think that pro-choice forum should be removed because they are all a bunch of sickos.

i'm deeply offended at being referred to as a sicko and an fool - i'm neither. I don't "enjoy" seeing pictures that pro-life sites advertise, I don't come and spend all day here (my job wouldn't exactly allow that and I have better things to do - it's just something to d until my fiance gets home lol ).
It's only fair to have both a pro-life and a pro-choice forum. If one gets removed then so should the other.

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Posted: 09-08-06 12:55pm

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emma2 wrote:

there is a big difference between dicussing hobbies and movies over abortion.

emma2 wrote:

i'm deeply offended at being referred to as a sicko and an fool - i'm neither. I don't "enjoy" seeing pictures that pro-life sites advertise, I don't come and spend all day here (my job wouldn't exactly allow that and I have better things to do - it's just something to d until my fiance gets home lol ).

It's only fair to have both a pro-life and a pro-choice forum. If one gets removed then so should the other.

yeah I wasnt reffering to you ...But cambion and a few others....I didnt see you do anything stupid or say anything stupid..So that wouldnt apply to you. Yeah they should remove both....Because religion and politics and seems like abortion too is just something people cant be civilized about.....

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Posted: 09-08-06 13:16pm

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there is a big difference between dicussing hobbies and movies over abortion.

that would be your opinion, stupid. Go pretend to be anti choice over on the anti choice board. You play schizo good.

thats right ...Opinions !!! Wow!! You actually know what that word means? Its my opinion and there is no need to be talking the way you do to someone you do not know. Your a very bitter , uneducated , tactless and sorry loser...I truly feel bad for you...You are not appealing nor can you hold up a decent debate or conversation.

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Posted: 09-08-06 13:21pm


I'd deleted the rest of your argumentative posts on the other topic before coming to this one to read; I honestly wasn't getting anything near a pro-choice vibe from you, so forgive me for that. My opinions differ from those of stillhere, and she constantly insults me for it. Now that I actually know you're at least slightly pro-choice, I won't be deleting them anymore. However, i'd like to remind everyone .N.O.T to post to the pro-life forum!! Pick a side and stick with it! I would also to remind everyone again that the best policy when dealing with stillhere is to ignore her when she is being insulting... Which is 90% of the time.

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Posted: 09-08-06 13:23pm

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i'd deleted the rest of your argumentative posts on the other topic before coming to this one to read; I honestly wasn't getting anything near a pro-choice vibe from you, so forgive me for that. My opinions differ from those of stillhere, and she constantly insults me for it. Now that I actually know you're at least slightly pro-choice, I won't be deleting them anymore.

However, i'd like to remind everyone .N.O.T to post to the pro-life forum!! Pick a side and stick with it!

I would also to remind everyone again that the best policy when dealing with stillhere is to ignore her when she is being insulting... Which is 90% of the time.

she is one twisted person. Its almost scary!!!

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Posted: 09-08-06 16:54pm

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there is a big difference between dicussing hobbies and movies over abortion. You cannot deny that some people in here are quite frankly very scary people and are obsessive.

and the other side is just full of casual observers who rarely stop off to comment on the topic? :roll: :lol: you're cute. Interest in a topic does not mean that you are obsessed. And, there are many different reasons for coming here periodically to check up on people and what is going on. I come here for the conversation with other people more than I do because of this topic.

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like, cambion...What the hell is up with this person...Its almost as she like to read about the abortion survivors ann loves these pics ...Like she salivates and wants to eat them for lunch....There was nothing smart about her post on the survivors...Whats fair is fair ....I mean , ive had an abortion years ago but I would never sit there and call the ones whom believe in abortion crazy fanatics...To them its wrong..Let them have thier opinion.

they are entitled to their opinion. I don't believe that cambion would ever disagree with that sentiment. However, what many of us have the problem with is that while entitled to their opinion, they are not allowed to force their opinion on anyone else, say through the laws. No one is saying that one side or the other must stop offering their opinions. But no one, on either side, is allowed to force other people to live by their opinions.

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Posted: 09-09-06 18:57pm


Totally agree with emma2

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Posted: 09-09-06 23:18pm

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totally agree with emma2

i really can't tell... Are you pro-choice or pro-life? If you're "not sure", then i'd like to ask you to please stop spreading drama.

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Posted: 09-10-06 08:22am


I think she's pro-life, her post on another thread was about takng responsibility for having sex and if you don't want a child have it adopted :roll:

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Posted: 09-10-06 08:48am

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i may be a sadist, but I do not like watching people suffer when it is not deserved. Even though that abortion survivors site is a fundie catholic site, I still do feel bad for those people who survived. It's not their fault they were born with awful defects - because of their parents' stupidity, they have to live with things like congenital heart defects and cerebral palsy. The parents should be the ones suffering...But I digress. If you actually read my rant in that topic, you'd see I was annoyed by the parents and not the victims.

I can't say I love seeing pictures of aborted fetuses, because I don't, but I am unphased by them. I have a pretty strong stomach when it comes to gore. You sure do have a vivid imagination - sorry to disappoint you, but fetus isn't my primary source of protein. :)

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she is one twisted person. Its almost scary!!!

yes - shame on those nasty moderators for enforcing rules. What's wrong with them? {/sarcasm}

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Posted: 09-11-06 08:26am

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she is one twisted person. Its almost scary!!!

yes - shame on those nasty moderators for enforcing rules. What's wrong with them? {/sarcasm}

cambion, its not the parents fault either. Nor does religion have anything to do with it...You cant kill a baby that has been born ....

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Posted: 09-11-06 10:13am


Cambion doesn't advocate the killing of born babies, nor does cambion advocate the killing of unborn fetuses. We simply want there to be an option.

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Posted: 09-11-06 11:10am

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cambion doesn't advocate the killing of born babies, nor does cambion advocate the killing of unborn fetuses. We simply want there to be an option.

why dont you let cambion speak for herself and you can speak for your self as well. And clearly she does advocate it because her comments imply that they should have never had the chance to live after what has happened..

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Posted: 09-11-06 13:16pm


Emma2, did you even read about some of those people in that link I posted? These people were born with birth defects that were the results of attempted/failed abortions. Since the mothers chose not to abort, they condemned their own children to lives of suffering, and I find that to be extremely heartless and cruel. The victims may consider themselves lucky, but I know I wouldn't have wanted to be born if my mother knew I had something like congenital heart defects. It's not about life, but the quality of life. I don't believe every single fetus should be aborted, but for the sake of the unborn child, I don't think it's fair to allow them to be born when they are malformed or have conditions that would cause them great suffering and/or were incurable.

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Re: I'm Pro- Choice But......
Posted: 09-11-06 13:33pm

emma2 wrote:

i think everyone has the right to choose what they want but..............But...........What does it u give you women to constantly talk about abortion and show eachother pics and obsess over pro-lifers and insult their beliefs? Really, what does it give you? Its very disturbing ....I mean, you have an abortion and you move on ..I dont get this. Im trying really hard to understand what the fascination with looking at these photos and reading about abortion survivors. Im really curious!

i personally have never had an elected abortion. I went through the same procedure when I was pregnant and the fetus had died inside of me and had to be removed. It was the most devastating thing I have ever gone through but it has helped me see that I am pro choice. For myself I would never have an abortion but I would never sit back and judge someone for their choice or call them names.

Actually a friend of mine is going through this right now. I don't agree with her choice to have an abortion but its her choice. My childern suffer every day because their father and I are divorsed ( and there is more to that but thats to long to get into right now). I see the pain in their eyes and hear it in their voice because of how much they have seen and gone through with this divorce and the marriage itself. My friend chose to go through with the abortion not only so she could make better changes in her life and get to a place where she can support a child on her own if need be but to hopefully have a lovign supportive male figure regarding it. She has watched waht my kids have gone through and knew that was what her child would go through also and felt that was not fair to put her own child through. She admits that she wishes she didn't have the abortion but she didn't want to bring it into a world of pain either. Fathers have rights also and had she had the child their lives would have been hell. She cries about it all the time and I know that she did not make the choice to make it easier on herself.

She is not a sicko or pathetic or anything else. She is just a woman trying to make the right choices for herself and the unborn child she had inside of her. She does not feel happy about her choice infact she feels a huge void inside of herself. She is not the same girl she was when she went in.

The choice to have an abortion is very personal and painful and for the most part a hard decision to make but I would never criticize soemone for their decisions that they make if they went through the entire thought process adn then did what they felt was best.

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Posted: 09-12-06 09:51am

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emma2, did you even read about some of those people in that link I posted? These people were born with birth defects that were the results of attempted/failed abortions. Since the mothers chose not to abort, they condemned their own children to lives of suffering, and I find that to be extremely heartless and cruel. The victims may consider themselves lucky, but I know I wouldn't have wanted to be born if my mother knew I had something like congenital heart defects. It's not about life, but the quality of life.

I don't believe every single fetus should be aborted, but for the sake of the unborn child, I don't think it's fair to allow them to be born when they are malformed or have conditions that would cause them great suffering and/or were incurable.

actually I did read the entire thing ..It was very sad for both mothers and babies. But, thats not what you said in your original post...You claimed that the were born with birth defects as if to imply the were born that way naturally....And did not acknoledge that it was due to the attempted abortion. I dont know if I would have continued with the pregnancy myself after knowing I caused damage to the fetus but the way you worded everything sure sounded a whole lot different to what you say now.