diamond splinter
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Posted: 09-12-06 08:05am
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| eiri
wrote: | i know the meaning of the
word "sacrifice"!!!
You piss me off, know why? Because I
have never wished anything ill upon you,
but this is probably the second or third
time you've wished infertility upon me.
You are a hypocrite. You don't care for
anyone but yourself. Your ideals, your
beliefs. Everyone else is wrong, no
matter what. There's no human
compassion in your mind. I'm done.
You finally started the personal
attacks... And look who started them,
pro-life. Most namely, you.
I'm done because i've made my valid
points; but because they are different
from yours, you can't listen. However,
you know them to be the truth. So you
resort to insulting me. You
lose. |
you also piss me of you wanna know why
?You can sit there and say that the life
of future babies is more important than
the life of a baby already conceived yeah
right.
Your points are not valid not by your own
criteria you claim to be pro choice yet
you will call a mother selfish for
choosing the life of her baby above her
own yeah ok your pro choice just as long
as it is your choice.
And you are right it was wrong of me to
wish infertility on you and I can only
apologise for that but I really do hope
that before you do become pregnant that
you learn what mother means also if I
didn't care for anybody but myself I
wouldn't willingly risk my life for that
of my babies should it ever come to it .
Also if you care to read through my posts
you would see that although I would choose
my babies life over mine I also stated
that I would no way ever expect another
woman to do so.
I do not see you as having won this point
as you still have not given a reasonable
explanaition as to why one baby could ever
replace the loss of another.
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cherry88
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Posted: 09-12-06 10:49am
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| diamond splinter
wrote: | | eiri
wrote: | i know the meaning of the
word "sacrifice"!!!
You piss me off, know why? Because I
have never wished anything ill upon you,
but this is probably the second or third
time you've wished infertility upon me.
You are a hypocrite. You don't care
for anyone but yourself. Your ideals,
your beliefs. Everyone else is wrong,
no matter what. There's no human
compassion in your mind. I'm done.
You finally started the personal
attacks... And look who started them,
pro-life. Most namely, you.
I'm done because i've made my valid
points; but because they are different
from yours, you can't listen. However,
you know them to be the truth. So you
resort to insulting me. You
lose. |
you also piss me of you wanna know why
?You can sit there and say that the life
of future babies is more important than
the life of a baby already conceived yeah
right.
Your points are not valid not by your own
criteria you claim to be pro choice yet
you will call a mother selfish for
choosing the life of her baby above her
own yeah ok your pro choice just as long
as it is your choice.
And you are right it was wrong of me to
wish infertility on you and I can only
apologise for that but I really do hope
that before you do become pregnant that
you learn what mother means also if I
didn't care for anybody but myself I
wouldn't willingly risk my life for that
of my babies should it ever come to it .
Also if you care to read through my posts
you would see that although I would choose
my babies life over mine I also stated
that I would no way ever expect another
woman to do so.
I do not see you as having won this point
as you still have not given a reasonable
explanaition as to why one baby could ever
replace the loss of
another. |
diamond splinter, you are an actual noob.
eiri I agree with you. Shes a hypocrite.
In my opinion one of the biggest ones on
this whole site.
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Meandering Away
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Posted: 09-12-06 10:57am
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| cherry88
wrote: | | diamond splinter
wrote: | | eiri
wrote: | i know the meaning of the
word "sacrifice"!!!
You piss me off, know why? Because I
have never wished anything ill upon you,
but this is probably the second or third
time you've wished infertility upon me.
You are a hypocrite. You don't care
for anyone but yourself. Your ideals,
your beliefs. Everyone else is wrong,
no matter what. There's no human
compassion in your mind. I'm done.
You finally started the personal
attacks... And look who started them,
pro-life. Most namely, you.
I'm done because i've made my valid
points; but because they are different
from yours, you can't listen.
However, you know them to be the truth.
So you resort to insulting me. You
lose. |
you also piss me of you wanna know why
?You can sit there and say that the life
of future babies is more important than
the life of a baby already conceived yeah
right.
Your points are not valid not by your own
criteria you claim to be pro choice yet
you will call a mother selfish for
choosing the life of her baby above her
own yeah ok your pro choice just as long
as it is your choice.
And you are right it was wrong of me to
wish infertility on you and I can only
apologise for that but I really do hope
that before you do become pregnant that
you learn what mother means also if I
didn't care for anybody but myself I
wouldn't willingly risk my life for that
of my babies should it ever come to it .
Also if you care to read through my posts
you would see that although I would choose
my babies life over mine I also stated
that I would no way ever expect another
woman to do so.
I do not see you as having won this point
as you still have not given a reasonable
explanaition as to why one baby could ever
replace the loss of
another. |
diamond splinter, you are an actual noob.
eiri I agree with you. Shes a hypocrite.
In my opinion one of the biggest ones on
this whole
site. |
oh look first post back and an attack
typical of you cherry.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 09-12-06 12:03pm
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I'm obviously thankful for the support.
However... Stop the personal attacks,
both sides. That was my point.
I am not responding to nightangel. I made
my point, and my debate with her ended
when she insulted me.
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Meandering Away
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Posted: 09-12-06 12:49pm
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| eiri
wrote: | i'm obviously thankful for
the support. However... Stop the
personal attacks, both sides. That was
my point.
I am not responding to nightangel. I
made my point, and my debate with her
ended when she insulted
me. |
i give up this place will never change,
what with every second word from pro
choice either fetus humper or anti choice,
or pro abort from pro life but I must
admit that it is worse on the pro choice
side maybe because there are more pcers on
here than plers,none of you care enough to
debate maturley or listen to the other
side, me and eiri tried but even you eiri
use anti choice in your posts.So what is
the point.
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Tazzy D
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Diamond Splinter
Posted: 09-12-06 13:18pm
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You are def. Out of character ...
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cherry88
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Posted: 09-12-06 14:12pm
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Actually cowboys, let me correct you:
that wasnt my first response in ages
actually.
You are the biggest hypocrite ever all
you ever do is offend people.
Not surprisingly none of you probibly know
what a noob is.
End of.
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Meandering Away
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Re: Diamond Splinter
Posted: 09-12-06 14:18pm
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| tazzy d
wrote: | | you are def. Out of
character ... |
who me.?
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Meandering Away
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Posted: 09-12-06 14:20pm
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| cherry88
wrote: | actually cowboys, let me
correct you:
that wasnt my first response in ages
actually.
You are the biggest hypocrite ever all
you ever do is offend people.
Not surprisingly none of you probibly know
what a noob is.
End of. |
still immature I see learn to spell child
then come back, I refuse to let children
bring me into a slanging match.All you
want is to cause drama well go and cause
it somewhere else.I will no longer reply
to you so please do not respond to me
thank you very much.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 09-12-06 17:29pm
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| cowboys
wrote: | | eiri
wrote: | i'm obviously thankful for
the support. However... Stop the
personal attacks, both sides. That was
my point.
I am not responding to nightangel. I
made my point, and my debate with her
ended when she insulted
me. |
i give up this place will never change,
what with every second word from pro
choice either fetus humper or anti choice,
or pro abort from pro life but I must
admit that it is worse on the pro choice
side maybe because there are more pcers on
here than plers,none of you care enough to
debate maturley or listen to the other
side, me and eiri tried but even you eiri
use anti choice in your posts.So what is
the point. |
what? Where did I say anti-choice?
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Tazzy D
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Re: Diamond Splinter
Posted: 09-12-06 19:49pm
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| cowboys
wrote: | | tazzy d
wrote: | | you are def. Out of
character ... |
who me.? |
no diamond splinter
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diamond splinter
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Re: Diamond Splinter
Posted: 09-13-06 03:13am
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| tazzy d
wrote: | | you are def. Out of
character ... |
no i'm not oput of character I get on well
with most real pro choicers as you know
but this thread as of yet has had no real
pro choicers involved just the pro
aborts.
If they really were pro choice they would
respect a womans choice no matter what it
is and not only in the event of an
abortion.
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Tylanas
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Re: Diamond Splinter
Posted: 09-13-06 11:03am
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| diamond splinter
wrote: | | tazzy d
wrote: | | you are def. Out of
character ... |
no i'm not oput of character I get on well
with most real pro choicers as you know
but this thread as of yet has had no real
pro choicers involved just the pro
aborts.
If they really were pro choice they would
respect a womans choice no matter what it
is and not only in the event of an
abortion. |
you obviously don't pay attention. Many
pro-choice people get angry at me when I
say that I don't like a woman having 5
"social" abortions, and that I think she
should be punished for it. If I was
"pro-abort" i'd be saying "heck! Every
woman should get at least one abortion in
her lifetime! The more the merrier!"
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diamondsz
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Posted: 09-13-06 11:13am
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| nightangel73
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i am sorry but I do not think I could, you
see to me my wife is worth more than
anything more than my life itself, I don't
think I could live without her and I do
not wish or want to.So I would be bloody
angry if she died to give a child a life.I
love my children with all my heart but the
difference is I know them I would not know
this other child so I do not think I would
be able to give that child the love it
deserves.Plus me and my other children
would of lost a mother/wife for one more
brother/sister when she could live and
have more anyway.I am sorry if this is a
bit of a shock but it is how I
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then if you can't live without your wife
you love is parasitic. I recommend you
read the book "the road less traveled".
I sure would give my life or any organ of
my body to save a life of one of my
children. |
a fetus is a aparasite until it stops
feeding off the mother
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diamond splinter
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Posted: 09-13-06 11:15am
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| diamondsz
wrote: | | nightangel73
wrote: | | cowboys
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i am sorry but I do not think I could, you
see to me my wife is worth more than
anything more than my life itself, I don't
think I could live without her and I do
not wish or want to.So I would be bloody
angry if she died to give a child a life.I
love my children with all my heart but the
difference is I know them I would not know
this other child so I do not think I would
be able to give that child the love it
deserves.Plus me and my other children
would of lost a mother/wife for one more
brother/sister when she could live and
have more anyway.I am sorry if this is a
bit of a shock but it is how I
feel. |
then if you can't live without your wife
you love is parasitic. I recommend you
read the book "the road less traveled".
I sure would give my life or any organ of
my body to save a life of one of my
children. |
a fetus is a aparasite until it stops
feeding off the
mother |
thats just your opinion right? Parasites
invade babies dont they are created
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Tylanas
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Posted: 09-13-06 11:41am
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Lmao. Parasites have mommies and daddies
too you know.
Next... The egg is meant to inavde the
uterus... But just because part of our
biology has made it so doesn't mean all of
our body has. The egg has to releace
specific horomones upon implanting to make
sure that the mother's body doesn't reject
it; and in many cases, this doesn't work
and poof! The egg is aborted during the
woman's cycle. That is a natural
abortion, often referred to as a
miscarriage.
Next.. The base definition of a parasite
is a creature that takes from another
without giving back, producing in the end
harm to some degree. A symbiot on the
other hand, cooperates with it's host, and
somehow mutually benefits the host. Just
food for thought.
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Posted: 09-13-06 12:02pm
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| nightangel73
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| moo
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so women who abort are cruel in your book?
Thanks :roll:
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correct |
lucky no-one cares what your
misinformation is.
| moo
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why should an unwanted fetus (or any for
that matter) have more of a right than the
woman whos body it exists in?
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it is not more of a right. The mother
wants the right to live right? Well so
does the fetus, just that the fetus can't
speak for himself. [/quote]
it is more of a right because the womans
right to bodily integrity would become
second to that of the z/e/f's right to
life - for rights to be balanced there's
no need for them to be the same right.
The fact is it doesn't have a right to
life, regardless of what anyone thinks
("right to life" is not opinion)
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Posted: 09-13-06 19:04pm
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| eiri
wrote: | lmao. Parasites have
mommies and daddies too you know.
Next... The egg is meant to inavde the
uterus... But just because part of our
biology has made it so doesn't mean all of
our body has. The egg has to releace
specific horomones upon implanting to make
sure that the mother's body doesn't reject
it; and in many cases, this doesn't work
and poof! The egg is aborted during the
woman's cycle. That is a natural
abortion, often referred to as a
miscarriage.
Next.. The base definition of a parasite
is a creature that takes from another
without giving back, producing in the end
harm to some degree. A symbiot on the
other hand, cooperates with it's host, and
somehow mutually benefits the host. Just
food for
thought. |
eiri a fetus can cause harm to a
mother...
Personally I dont like the fact that it
can be considered a parasite ( I have two
kids and that kind of grosses me out but
it is the truth straight out.
Second off we are not pro abort
pro-choice means that we believe/allow
woman to have choices, whether they be
good or not that is her choice to make
them. I believe in promoting adoption,
foster care, being a parent and last case
abortion but that is the choice of ther
person to make. I will never blatantly
tell a woman she has to keep the baby or
abort it..
Pro-life means you view life as sacred
even if it means the death of a parent to
bring new life to this world, it also
means you do not believe in euthasia,
capital punishment or any sense of death
to any living being such as plants animals
etc.
Some ppl can personally be pro-life as we
see but allow woman the choice to make a
decision that could change or ruin her
life and for that they respect
womans/peoples rights in general.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 09-13-06 22:14pm
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I never said it couldn't; in fact I had
hoped i'd implied that it indeed could.
And obviously we are not "pro-abort", no
more than pro-life is "wnti-woman", even
though both sides seem that way when you
only listen to the extremists.
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