Wanting specifically a "newborn" is selfish to me. So what about that lonely 2 year old that's longing for a family to love him? He's got his own personality and thoughts and would loooove to be a part of a family unit.

Maybe that's just my outlook on it.

Adoption is something that is a miracle to women who cannot conceive and should be talked about more!

Sarah

When I adopt I plan on adopting an older child. It breaks my heart that these kids grow up with no mother and father, shoved from place to place.

It's sad that a couple will wait 2 years for that infant, instead of adopting the 2 year old waiting for a home. But then you have to think, they probably never bargained to deal with infertility, let alone dealing with a child that comes with emotional, physical, mental and behavior problems. I think for them getting a new born is as close as they can get to feeling like their just like every other parent. I on the other hand can't wait to adopt an older child one day, but maybe my ability to make babies and have a new born makes my feelings biased. I guess we wouldn't understand unless we were dealing with infertility how important it might be to them to have that baby from day one.

Abortion to some is taken lightly....If it isn't...It's one of the most difficult decisions of your life.

I'm 27, male, and have never impregnated a girl. Fortunately I have never had to make this decision.

My sis is 30, got pregnant in jan and wasn't sure what to do. The bf cheated on her and she dumped him. She was alone, pregnant, with a decision no person should have to make.

Try to get in touch with girls who have done it on their own at your age. They are the only ones who can truly share.

Whatever you do....Do it quick! The longer you wait the harder it will get.

Good luck

Well I advocate killing you instead of a baby because you are so fat and taking up more room and food than you should, fatty cakes. Haha. That is actually an immature and unlogical argument. Since you claim i'm so full of them.

My mom isn't even around, I haven't lived with her since I was 12... So how do you assume when I further my education she will be watching baby? Once again, you pulled the first narrow minded conclusion out of your as* and presented it, proving you are too dense to think logically for even a second of all the possible solutions.

I never said you said babies never get adopted. Once again, too much of a dolt. All I said was infants are in high demand. If a mother takes the time to go through an agency, pick out the family, set up an agreement before the baby arrives, then there is no reason the baby will go without a home. Which is true. I went on to say the baby will only be in the foster system if the mother didn't care about her child, made no plans, popped it out, then handed it over to child services. Which you went on to say as if it was some kind of argument against what I said, but if you had a brain you would have seen I totally agree. Good job person! You repeated a thought I had already stated! I was rebuking your attitude of if they place their child for adoption that then there is still only a small chance of being adopted. I agree white babies probably get adopted more, but come on hitler, really, most couples probably won't give two sh*t's if the baby has blue eyes, or green, red hair, brown or blonde. I'm not an fool, and this really isn't about specific things you said, but more about the types of language you use and what it conveys. Any one with half a brain cell can read your bit on adoption and quiet clearly tell you were trying to insinuate, that chances are the poor baby will rot in an unloving home until it is 18. Even though you don't outwardly lie you still use propaganda you fat lazy stupid cow. By the words you choose and how you present your ideas. You know this, I know this, anyone who reads it knows it. I'm not stupid for being able to realize this and argue back you lumpy sack of lard. If having one child at the most was enough for everyone, and everyone in the world as a rule lived by this, the human population would die out dipsh*t. Or are you the dense to understand that? So why should north americans stop procreating? It would eventually lead to the elimination of an entire race... But you would like that, right hitler? You know since north americans are slowly being bread out and you advocate it. Maybe you need to go somewhere where the national average for how many children couples have is more than 1 and a 1/2 to preach about this since it is completely and absolutely pointless here. Are you too much of an obese fool to understand this?

Why not include me? I should kill myself too? No, not because i'm a parent (because i'm not a parent, first of all, you smart smart smart one). Because you already have the desire and stupid angsty impulses to kill yourself you little emo goth-tard. I think people who pity themselves are worthless. I think they waste space. Sitting around moping and slitting their wrists. Boohoo. Go cry your back tears of pain or something.

"i've had experience with the equivanelt of parenting". Really? What is equivalent (not equivanelt... Or are you too much of an fool to run spell check?) of being a parent? So you did the equivalent of birthing a child, being with it 24/7 through infantry, you did the equivalent of paying it's food, diapers, day care, and you did the equivalent of parenting until a child was 18? Oh really. Please enlighten me with what your equivalent is. Because baby sitting isn't, watching someone else's kid (no matter for how long you did it) isn't. If by the equivalent of parenting you mean you sat around slitting your wrists and writting poetry and crying about how your life is completely pointless and how no one likes you, then fine, you've done the equivalent.

Yes you would like that right, if no one like me replied to your arguments? It's so much easier when you can spoon feed this crap to people who don't have reasonable arguments to throw back at you. Your arguments are weak, I yawn. You tell me "well if ah ladeh give birth and just give her kid 2 da state den da baby might nawt b adopted" good job detective dipshi*t. You have successfully repeated what I stated earlier. You stupid stupid stupid vaginal disease. Why don't I go parent my child instead of replying to your posts? Well it turns out I don't have a baby, but good try detective. Well the door swings both ways you know... Why are you sitting here replying to posts (weakly and pathetically) when you could be doing all those things you claim teen mothers lives are so horrible for not being able to do. Go out and do all the wonderful things they can't do for being tied down by a baby... Or are you too much of a self conscious tub of lard? Yes. You are.

Tanya, that girl is obviously miserable and the way she stalks around the pregnancy forums spreading negative caca makes me wonder if she doesn't secretly want a child of her own. No one would act that weird if they didn't feel threatened by something.

Wow, and I thought I ranted too much.

Tanyaface, you really really need to get a life asap. And I would also strongly suggest some intense courses in reading comprehension. I love how your immature prissy retarded teen self assumes that i'm fat and emo because *gasp* I don't agree with your twisted fantasy logic. You seem to think you're so mature, but the only perk you have over many girls your age is that you can spell. I seriously hope and pray you never have children, and any you have are either taken from you or perish, because either of those paths would be a much better fate than having you as a parent...And in your case, I use the term "parent" loosely.

And I actually am out doing what knocked-up teens and teen parents can't do, making more of myself and my life than you will ever know. In years' time, it'll be my tax money paying for your food and your house, so you enjoy your feelings of elation now. Someone with your attitude is destined to make little more of themselves in life than a welfare leech or a mcdonald's cashier.

I'm truly sorry that you're so narrow-minded and ignorant that you can't handle people with differing opinions. You are one of the biggest wastes of oxygen i've ever seen/heard, so I highly advise you relocate yourself to a six-foot-deep hole in the nearest wide open space, because the world would be a far better off place if you went to and remained in that hole. And you do not have an ounce of reason in your posts, so please do not make me laugh by claiming that you do. Get off your high horse, grow the hell up, and come back and try again later. Otherwise, quit being the immature little prick you are by replying to my posts. You prove nothing more than the fact that you are a mindless and miserable little brat with your long-winded posts.

Jennyj, you seem to be just as dense as tanyaface, so I guess the two of you are in good company. I kind of wish the mods would lock this topic already so you little kids would quit making fools of yourselves, but then that would put an end to the humor I am witness to every day.

"i love how your immature prissy retarded teen self assumes that i'm fat and emo because *gasp* I don't agree with your twisted fantasy logic"


i don't assume you are fat. In a previous post you admitted to being fat.

I don't assume you are emo, you provided me with the information with complaining about wanting to kill yourself, how you don't have friends, and don't know how to make any.

Geez, I don't have to assume these things when you have provided me with it right on this forum.

So what is your equivalent to parenting? Come on... Support your stupid pointless arguments just a little. I mean, I get you have to turn to personally insulting me because you don't actually have any intelligent arguments. Let's just hear where you were planning on going with this "i've done the equivalent to parenting" sh*t. You sound like an fool already because you haven't been able to provide me with an answer. Because you don't have one. "so cambion, tell me what you find equivalent to parenting?" "omeegah you gon work at mcdonalds you dumbb". It doesn't take much of a brain to insult me. It takes a little more to actually have logical support for your arguments though. If I did work at mcdonalds you would be my number one customer fatty pie!

I need to get a life for posting on this forum, but it's totally hip and cool when you do it? I don't figure how that works... Though I doubt you could tell me, you'll just be like "u stuped brreeder u dumb you logic be twisted tho I kant tell u y so ill just call u dumb". Insulting people seems to be the way you reply to arguments, not reasonable logical retorts.

Please grow up and come try your pseudo-intellectual show later when you can reply with something more than "you are stupid and will work at minimum wage your whole life". Insulting me really isn't proving my arguments wrong, more like agreeing that i'm right and you really have nothing to say back that is relevant.

Cambion, you should know better than to argue with the mentally challenged.

Where is the original poster?? Any good advice given here has been slandered by the screetching of first the pro-life, and then cambion's defense.

Look hun... All me and cambion want it for you to be sure that you've logically looked at your situation, and how you will deal with bringing a child into the world. It is going to be very, very extremely hard to manage your baby and school, and probably work in order to give your baby clothing and food.

Adoption is as valid an option as keeping the baby, if you are averse to abortion but know that you, at your age and monetary status, cannot care properly for the child.

I too would like to know where the father is in all of this? It's your body and your choice, no one should force you to do somethng you don't want to do. Will he be willing to care for the child with you? Is he capable of doing this?

Anyone who agrees with you has a brain, anyone who doesn't agree doesn't. I get it.


So what is your equivalent to parenting?

You hope this board will one day make a logical argument? Oh you mean like providing proof for the random crap they claim? Like that they have done the equivalent of parenting?

Good one smart one.

Babysitting isn't the equivalent to parenting you ignorant shmuck.

Erm ladies what part of suport do you not understand the behaviour on here is nothing short of slander on both sides now whilst this type of behaviour is acceptable in the debate forum I really do think it is inapropriate for here and you should both really be ashamed of yourselves.


Lorrie hun you do not have to go through with anything that you do not wish to do be that keeping the baby or aborting it
it is your choice and yours alone you need to talk to your mum though hun if your scared to talk to her alone then ask one of your teachers or a close freind to arrange a meeting to be there with you.
And remember no one can make you do anything you don't want to do
good luck I hope everything works out the way you wish.

Diamond splinter, if you look through the first page of posts (not saying you did not), you will see that tanyaface started this mess. I did not say anything unfair, biased, or even offensive, yet I was attacked for being pro-choice. My intention was to truly offer the poster advice, not start a fight - I did offer my support. Nowhere did I tell the author of the topic that she had to abort, but since some of the members are illiterate, they read this as "omfg u ned 2 abbort".



i clearly said forced babysitting, meaning babysitting against my will. People cannot read, and I cringe to think such an illiterate priss like this girl will be a parent someday. I am done arguing with you, child. Apparently your brain evaporated when you conceived, and I can only argue with someone this dense for so long. Say what you will after this, tanyaface, for I am done with this fight. If you want to assume you won, then fine - do so if it gives your worthless life some light.

Forced babysitting isn't the equivalent to parenting you ignorant shmuck.





Hahahaha you are so funny cambion. I just want to pinch your silly, obese cheeks.



And if by attacked for being pro-choice you mean I just proved your arguments wrong in a mature logical way, without name calling (originally)... Then yes I attacked you. But I suspect you are just a whiney, over sensitive baby that can't deal with her arguments being challenged. Because if you read my first post in this thread in which I reply to you, you will see it had no name calling. If you read your reply to my post though, that is when the "you so dumb" crap burst out. Why? Because you know you don't have any real logic to present so you resort to personal attacks. Poor poor lonely girl. If you need to pretend you are mature and I started this mess, to shine some light in your lonely depressing life, do so!


I love you cambion.