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Going "number Two" Posted: 08-20-06 20:03pm
New member here ... Boy finding a message
board for hypoglycemia wasn't easy! None
on delphi ... About.Com .... !
Although I remain undiagnosed, I have
eliminated many other potential illnesses
and have been on my hypo diet for just
over 2 weeks. No caffeine, no alcohol
(slipped once and had a glass of red wine
tho :roll: )
this is kind of an embarrassing question,
but answers to q's like these simply
aren't in any of the hypo books, or
research i've done, so here goes!
Before starting the diet, my " # 2's "
were dark, solid, in one piece, 2x a day,
and they floated (i'm told this is
important).
Now, they are very pale brownish/yellow,
frequent, far less solid and in many many
strips - and they don't float.
The frequency is to be expected since i'm
now eating many many times a day .... But
has anyone else experienced these types of
movements? If so, for how long, and is it
a "normal" hypo experience for a while?
Thanks ....!
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Stan
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Posted: 08-21-06 09:38am
Digestive problems are very common with
hypoglycemia. Diarrhea is one of them.
This may be one of several things.
First, it may just be one of your set of
symptoms that you have to deal with when
it happens, or you may be eating too much
fat if you're following my diet. Look
for it on this forum to make sure you're
eating right. It says "stan's diet."
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scruffyprep
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Posted: 08-21-06 09:44am
Hi stan. Hmm ... Interesting ... I'll
look into my fat intake. I've been
consuming cheese as a good "on-the-go
snack" item, greek-style yogurt, but
really not in large quantities ... And I
don't cook much, so I know i'm not getting
enough protein (so certainly not a whole
lot of animal fat)...
You'd think with all the whole grains
(7-grain cereal), whole-wheat pasta, ww
bread, that i'd have enough fiber to
"harden & thicken things up a bit"...
?
But perhaps i'm one of the hypos that
should stay away from grains altogether
for a while.... I sure hope not ...
This thread has been viewed over 20 times,
and you're the only one to chime in - so
it sounds like this is a problem only i'm
having I guess ....
Thanks stan!
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Stan
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Posted: 08-21-06 09:49am
If it's the only problem then rejoice!
That means you just need a way to add more
fiber to the diet if you're not getting
confused, depressed or otherwise insane.
If you are, grains may need to be avoided
for awhile, and you should find that you
actually feel better in the process.
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scruffyprep
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Posted: 08-21-06 09:52am
Hahah well I am experiencing all of that
.... Depression, dizziness, confusion,
night sweats, general malaise .....
But i'll rejoice anyway!
Because at least i'm further on my journey
to figuring out why - and finding a
solution! :lol:
i'm not sure i've ever understood the need
to avoid whole grains in the beginning
though. A complex carb is a complex carb,
right?
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Stan
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Posted: 08-21-06 10:01am
Ugh, well yeah you may need to avoid them.
The thing about whole grains is this.
First off, they effect the blood sugar
different than, say, a cup of romaine
lettuce. It's not just the type of
carbohydrate, it's the amount of
carbohydrates in what you're eating. You
should be eating no more than 100g a day
at first. So if you have a cup of
buckwheat, that's something like 33g, not
too bad. But if you have a cup of
amaranth, it's like 140g and you just went
over. You must be very careful to
measure and know what's in everything.
In addition, grains effect the blood sugar
different and are more quickly absorbed
than vegetables. The pancreas not only
responds to the level of the sugar, it
also responds to the speed at which the
sugar rises, even if it's not rising to a
dangerous level. So even though a piece
of whole grain bread may only raise your
sugar to 98, which is fine, the pancreas
reads the rise as potentially threatening
because it has grown accustomed to a bad
diet, so it pumps out the insulin. With
vegetables, it's just too slow to notice
unless you eat a type you should be
avoiding, like carrots. It would take
like three cups of eggplant to get the
carbohydrates of two carrots, but you
would feel full eating only one and it
wouldn't matter because that's only 8g.
Also, i've heard the pancreas responds to
the type of food you eat as it's passing
it. This sounds a little crazy, but it
makes sense, and I know i've had times
when I would eat something like a piece of
bread and swear to god it felt like my
pancreas knew it even before it was going
into my blood and i'd get a drop. Some
people say it can actually "smell" what's
going past it, but I need to do research
on this before I believe it. It doesn't
actually smell, what I mean is that it can
sense what's going through it, this makes
sense because it's the same principal as a
food allergy, the body is geared to
recognize the culprit, even in
ridiculously small amounts.
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scruffyprep
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Gtt 2-hr Fasting Results Posted: 08-21-06 10:45am
[re-editing - refresh in a few minutes]
thank you for such a detailed and
thoughtful reply stan. Your help is
needed and appreciated.
Your mention of the "psychic" pancreas
makes a lot of sense to me actually. And
I recently read something about this ....
I'll try to track down the source. I
read recently that just smelling pizza
will secrete the digestive enzymes in
preperation for consumption .... And
considering that I react to my food intake
much quicker than most (it seems...? See
gtt below) I think my pancreas must be
psychic too!
In my case, my 2 hour fasting gtt was:
fasting 94
30 min 95 ---- huge
60 min 63 ---- 30 pt drop!
90 min 65
120 min 90
so a huge drop between 30-60 minutes
a very non-standard curve it seems.
Closest to the flat curve I guess.
So, it would seem I have to eat every
30-45 minutes to prevent the drop - which
is insane if most don't experience a drop
for 2-3 hours. Maybe it's not even
hypo... ?
I'm sure there must be other guys out
there that aren't cooks that struggle with
this (since most protiens need to be
prepared). Anyone seen the fast food
commercial for carl's jr. That says
"without us, some guys would starve" ?
That's me!
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Stan
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Posted: 08-21-06 11:42am
I was getting drops within an hour, it
looks like you have the saw-tooth curve,
which is supposedly "rare." yeah right,
like everyone on here has it. I wouldn't
suggest eating every hour, no more than
every two. If you make sure you follow
something similar to what I do, or did at
least for the first phase, you should be
just fine. What you say about smelling
is correct, the body begins to prepare for
digestion when you smell certain foods.