I Threw In the Towel, And He Keeps Tossing It Back. Posted: 08-14-06 23:14pm
I'm not sure if I have a question, or if I
just need to vent but regardless of my
motives, any advice, suggestions,
guidance, a point in the right direction
would be appreciated.
I'm a 38 year old woman with 3 daughters -
1 left in the house, the others' in
college. I'd been with the same man for
15 years (daddy to my youngest kid). He's
gonna be 53 this year. He's ummm...
Quirky. I'm questioning my own sanity
because of this quirkiness.
I'm fairly certain he has "some" sort of
mental disorder. For as long as i've
known him he's been a storyteller. Most
of the time, they're harmless but as of
late they're a little crazier. I referred
to our relationship in the past as
"walking on egg shells" and from reading
up on this, we seem to have a passive
aggressive thing going on. I broke up
with him in april, and he moved out in
may.
I cracked. Even considered it a midlife
crisis. A friend of mine came down with
terminal cancer, and in gathering the
people from our "crew" from back in the
day (the 80's)to visit with her. I spent
alot of time with my old friends, and they
were questioning me as to why I was not
"myself." i'd become weird to them, and
the truth is, I became weird to myself. I
used to be fun, spontaneous and genuinely
happy and now I have become a pessimistic
lump who doesn't wanna do anything - until
march when my friend was diagnosed. She'd
been telling me how she wishes she could
do this, and that... You know, the
shouldacouldawoulda thing. I decided that
I didn't want to end up laying in a bed
telling my friends all the things that I
shouldacouldawoulda done.
I started thinking about the last 15 years
of my life being spent with a person which
i've always known to be a little =off= and
how i'd spent so much time dancing around
his moods, and making everything "ok" for
the sake of sanity, when the bottom line
was everything wasn't ok. He hopped from
job to job, he was about as emotionally
unavailable as a man could be, unless he
"needed" something, there was
absofrickenlutely no stability - except
for the fact that I knew that tomorrow
would be the same. There was a "sssshhh,
don't say anything until I can see what
kind of mood dad's in" or "hmm, I need to
discuss this matter with him... Is now a
good time?" sort of atmosphere around here
24/7, and my friends didn't want to come
over because when they would come in,
they'd feel as if they'd walked in on
something - when nothing was going on.
We rarely fought.
So, during the trips to the hospital to
visit my cancer friend, I spent alot of
time with an old boy "friend" named
hmmm... Sam. (sounds good) we had a
"thing" back when I was like 16 but it
never materialized into anything
significant but we'd always kept in touch
over the years, mostly thru his mom. (she
was the check point) sam's a very
intelligent man, speaks multiple
languages, works like mad, is thoughtful,
considerate, kind, and cares about
everything I say. We talked for hours
upon hours about my stagnant life, and
though he was not the cause of my break
up, he was certainly the catalyst for it.
Try to explain that one to the ex. Oh,and
no... I never cheated on him....Ever.
So, me and sam hooked up after the x left.
Sam's still the thoughtful, caring guy
that he always was, though he does live an
hour away and works ridiculous hours so I
see him maybe once/twice per week but now
it's starting to feel like we've been
together for a hundred years.
(here comes the drama part)
on two occasions, me and the x had...
Hmmm... A booty call (i guess you'd call
it that). The first time, I made sure
that he understood that this didn't mean
that we were gonna get back together, and
it was what it was. It was fun but the
post drama was a little freaky.
I started hearing "stories" about myself,
and how I stalk him, call him all the
time, somehow hacked into his cell phone
call list and called the girl he was
seeing and threatened to beat her up if
she didn't stop seeing him, there was even
a story about how my friend and I showed
up at his work and he and my friend had a
fight and he threatened to slice her
throat for meddling in his business. I
never did anything of the sort. No fight
between he and my friend. He's completely
fabricated entire scenarios - not even
embellishments on the truth... Just
complete inventions!!!
And with all of that absolute craziness, I
still find myself incredibly' attracted to
him. Booty call number two was hell on
me. I'm sitting here questioning my own
mental faculties. As looney as he is,
look at me! i cant seem to cut the
incredibly' cord! I have a new boyfriend
who is nice, kind, loving, emotionally
"there" 100fricken%, my daughter loves
him, my friends love him, my parents love
him, you'd think i'd just be happy with
that! Hell no. I'm fairly certain that
i'm as much of a nut job as he is.
(takes breath) it's taken me a half hour
to write this thing, and god bless you if
you've made it this far. Thanks for
reading my rantings anyhow.
The questions that come to mind that
someone might ask me after reading all of
this crap is, "do you love sam, or the nut
job. My answer is this. I apparently
have absolutely no grasp on what love is,
though I was sure I did. I can define the
word. Intellectually, I know what it
means. I've seen people "in" love before.
I know they both love me. I know if I
said to the x that I want him back - he'd
come back. I do know that is not what I
want. The only thing that i'm positive of
is that i'm very happy to live alone.
Ok, so you budding shrinks, and armchair
psychologists... Have at me. Lord knows
i'm exhausted from trying to do it myself.
Oh, and pardon the typos, the spell
checker thing here turned most of my caps
into lowercase and i'm too tired to do it
again. =)
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Spirit
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 387 Location: Canada
Posted: 08-15-06 08:21am
Similar story here, won't get into all the
details...........Just wanted to
say.....Been there, done that....
First thing that stands out in your story
is the obvious age
difference......Although I believe love
comes in many forms and this shouldn't be
an obstacle....It often is......We are
talking about two totally separate
generations.....How you grew up and were
raised is not the same as him.
If he is mentally ill/unstable probably
the last thing you should do is to confuse
him even more by keeping him in your
life(without meds or treatment it probably
gets worse with age)........The kids are
basically grown and can stay in touch on
their own.
Yes after spending so many years with a
person, part of their personality will rub
off on you.................And I have no
doubt that you question your sanity and
your ability to love again. It'll come
back................I say spend this
"freedom time" rediscovering
yourself.....What you really want/need to
do...........What will you accept in a
potential bf and what you will
not..............Having said that, I think
at this time you shouldn't really be
asking yourself "which one should I pick?"
.....A better question would be "at this
point in time in my life......Am I doing
anyone any favours by being with
them?"...........................
.........Men are nice to have around but
in order to understand "love", I think you
have to "love" yourself first. :)
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eq
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 17
Posted: 08-15-06 11:52am
Well I kept asking myself... Why is this
lady going back to her wacko ex? The
only reason I came up with is that you're
used to him. You've been with him for so
long and then you have this new guy, maybe
you're afraid? Maybe you don't know
what'll happenw ith this new guy so you
keep going back to your ex cause of
safety. Sound weird? Well why else
would a woman go back to their cheating
ex? Cause she's afraid of being alone or
finding a new person. I know you're not
afraid of being alone but maybe you're
afraid of "sam" not in the sense that
he's a scary person but in the sense that
you don'tknow what's going on. You've
been so used to being with this wacko that
you don't know how to love a person
normally anymore. Maybe i'm wrong but it
sure sounds good to me!
Btw stay away from the wacko! Either be
alone or be with sam. Sam sounds nice.
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GoFigure
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 2
Posted: 08-15-06 15:07pm
eq
wrote:
well why else would a woman
go back to their cheating ex?
he never cheated.
eq
wrote:
you've been so used to being
with this wacko that you don't know how to
love a person normally anymore.
thats a humungus statement. It's not even
just 'loving' a normal person, its just
being around normal people period! I've
worried about this, and discussed it with
my friends. Unfortunately, all my
friends admit that they don't know what
they would do with a 'normal' guy
either.
Thanks for the honest replies. You both
pretty much summed up my feelings in a
nutshell. I recon I just needed some
validation. It's like my brain knows what
to do but applying the knowledge is (as
they say) easier said than done. Why!!!!
Why can't I just say, "ok girl, you know
what to do - do it"
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eq
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 17
Posted: 08-16-06 08:44am
About the cheating... It was an
example.
Glad things have cleard up for you.
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fox1lady
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 53
Posted: 08-26-06 08:06am
Went through the same thing with a guy who
had a crush on me, he asked my neighbor if
he could get my phone number for him. I
told him if he was man enough to ask you
for my phone number, he could be man
enough to come and get it..He did..And we
dated for 3yrs. In the first year he was
great, the second year we broke up a few
times and back together again.. Of course
he was 40 and at the time I was 20, then
by the third year he really started to
change and I had to get out..Not because I
saw his true color, but because I was
having bad thoughts about beating him up
for every year he put me through
changes..I truely loved this man. The
only problem we had was that I was not
going to continue to be his trophy piece
while he was out with is friends and take
the verbal abuse once he got drunk...And
continue to be with a man who wasnt going
to marry me..It was a waist of time..To me
dating is searching for someone who could
be a potinetial canidate for
marriage..Once I learned he was a waco, I
terminated the relationship..By not
returning phone calls, not answering the
door when he came over, and staying away
from people he knew..Once I did this I had
a chance to heal from my wounds, and
started dating someone else. The person
I ran into was my high school sweet heart,
we lost contact for 8yrs then reunited in
2004..This was the best thing for me and
now we have been married for a year and I
have to tell you at 26yrs old I have a
great marriage. Not only having my best
friend back, but an relationship that is
healthy..So if she cant get the clue that
she is not wanted, then she needs to take
the time to reevaluate herself..Sometimes
women have a hard time excepting rejection
especially from men. Once you stop all
contact then she will understand and move
on.