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GoFigure

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I Threw In the Towel, And He Keeps Tossing It Back.
Posted: 08-14-06 23:14pm

I'm not sure if I have a question, or if I just need to vent but regardless of my motives, any advice, suggestions, guidance, a point in the right direction would be appreciated.

I'm a 38 year old woman with 3 daughters - 1 left in the house, the others' in college. I'd been with the same man for 15 years (daddy to my youngest kid). He's gonna be 53 this year. He's ummm... Quirky. I'm questioning my own sanity because of this quirkiness.

I'm fairly certain he has "some" sort of mental disorder. For as long as i've known him he's been a storyteller. Most of the time, they're harmless but as of late they're a little crazier. I referred to our relationship in the past as "walking on egg shells" and from reading up on this, we seem to have a passive aggressive thing going on. I broke up with him in april, and he moved out in may.

I cracked. Even considered it a midlife crisis. A friend of mine came down with terminal cancer, and in gathering the people from our "crew" from back in the day (the 80's)to visit with her. I spent alot of time with my old friends, and they were questioning me as to why I was not "myself." i'd become weird to them, and the truth is, I became weird to myself. I used to be fun, spontaneous and genuinely happy and now I have become a pessimistic lump who doesn't wanna do anything - until march when my friend was diagnosed. She'd been telling me how she wishes she could do this, and that... You know, the shouldacouldawoulda thing. I decided that I didn't want to end up laying in a bed telling my friends all the things that I shouldacouldawoulda done.

I started thinking about the last 15 years of my life being spent with a person which i've always known to be a little =off= and how i'd spent so much time dancing around his moods, and making everything "ok" for the sake of sanity, when the bottom line was everything wasn't ok. He hopped from job to job, he was about as emotionally unavailable as a man could be, unless he "needed" something, there was absofrickenlutely no stability - except for the fact that I knew that tomorrow would be the same. There was a "sssshhh, don't say anything until I can see what kind of mood dad's in" or "hmm, I need to discuss this matter with him... Is now a good time?" sort of atmosphere around here 24/7, and my friends didn't want to come over because when they would come in, they'd feel as if they'd walked in on something - when nothing was going on. We rarely fought.

So, during the trips to the hospital to visit my cancer friend, I spent alot of time with an old boy "friend" named hmmm... Sam. (sounds good) we had a "thing" back when I was like 16 but it never materialized into anything significant but we'd always kept in touch over the years, mostly thru his mom. (she was the check point) sam's a very intelligent man, speaks multiple languages, works like mad, is thoughtful, considerate, kind, and cares about everything I say. We talked for hours upon hours about my stagnant life, and though he was not the cause of my break up, he was certainly the catalyst for it. Try to explain that one to the ex. Oh,and no... I never cheated on him....Ever.

So, me and sam hooked up after the x left. Sam's still the thoughtful, caring guy that he always was, though he does live an hour away and works ridiculous hours so I see him maybe once/twice per week but now it's starting to feel like we've been together for a hundred years.

(here comes the drama part)

on two occasions, me and the x had... Hmmm... A booty call (i guess you'd call it that). The first time, I made sure that he understood that this didn't mean that we were gonna get back together, and it was what it was. It was fun but the post drama was a little freaky.

I started hearing "stories" about myself, and how I stalk him, call him all the time, somehow hacked into his cell phone call list and called the girl he was seeing and threatened to beat her up if she didn't stop seeing him, there was even a story about how my friend and I showed up at his work and he and my friend had a fight and he threatened to slice her throat for meddling in his business. I never did anything of the sort. No fight between he and my friend. He's completely fabricated entire scenarios - not even embellishments on the truth... Just complete inventions!!!

And with all of that absolute craziness, I still find myself incredibly' attracted to him. Booty call number two was hell on me. I'm sitting here questioning my own mental faculties. As looney as he is, look at me! i cant seem to cut the incredibly' cord! I have a new boyfriend who is nice, kind, loving, emotionally "there" 100fricken%, my daughter loves him, my friends love him, my parents love him, you'd think i'd just be happy with that! Hell no. I'm fairly certain that i'm as much of a nut job as he is.

(takes breath) it's taken me a half hour to write this thing, and god bless you if you've made it this far. Thanks for reading my rantings anyhow.

The questions that come to mind that someone might ask me after reading all of this crap is, "do you love sam, or the nut job. My answer is this. I apparently have absolutely no grasp on what love is, though I was sure I did. I can define the word. Intellectually, I know what it means. I've seen people "in" love before. I know they both love me. I know if I said to the x that I want him back - he'd come back. I do know that is not what I want. The only thing that i'm positive of is that i'm very happy to live alone.

Ok, so you budding shrinks, and armchair psychologists... Have at me. Lord knows i'm exhausted from trying to do it myself. Oh, and pardon the typos, the spell checker thing here turned most of my caps into lowercase and i'm too tired to do it again. =)
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Spirit

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Posted: 08-15-06 08:21am

Similar story here, won't get into all the details...........Just wanted to say.....Been there, done that....

First thing that stands out in your story is the obvious age difference......Although I believe love comes in many forms and this shouldn't be an obstacle....It often is......We are talking about two totally separate generations.....How you grew up and were raised is not the same as him.

If he is mentally ill/unstable probably the last thing you should do is to confuse him even more by keeping him in your life(without meds or treatment it probably gets worse with age)........The kids are basically grown and can stay in touch on their own.

Yes after spending so many years with a person, part of their personality will rub off on you.................And I have no doubt that you question your sanity and your ability to love again. It'll come back................I say spend this "freedom time" rediscovering yourself.....What you really want/need to do...........What will you accept in a potential bf and what you will not..............Having said that, I think at this time you shouldn't really be asking yourself "which one should I pick?" .....A better question would be "at this point in time in my life......Am I doing anyone any favours by being with them?"...........................
.........Men are nice to have around but in order to understand "love", I think you have to "love" yourself first. :)
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eq

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Posted: 08-15-06 11:52am

Well I kept asking myself... Why is this lady going back to her wacko ex? The only reason I came up with is that you're used to him. You've been with him for so long and then you have this new guy, maybe you're afraid? Maybe you don't know what'll happenw ith this new guy so you keep going back to your ex cause of safety. Sound weird? Well why else would a woman go back to their cheating ex? Cause she's afraid of being alone or finding a new person. I know you're not afraid of being alone but maybe you're afraid of "sam" not in the sense that he's a scary person but in the sense that you don'tknow what's going on. You've been so used to being with this wacko that you don't know how to love a person normally anymore. Maybe i'm wrong but it sure sounds good to me!

Btw stay away from the wacko! Either be alone or be with sam. Sam sounds nice.
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GoFigure

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Posted: 08-15-06 15:07pm

eq wrote:
well why else would a woman go back to their cheating ex?


he never cheated.

eq wrote:
you've been so used to being with this wacko that you don't know how to love a person normally anymore.


thats a humungus statement. It's not even just 'loving' a normal person, its just being around normal people period! I've worried about this, and discussed it with my friends. Unfortunately, all my friends admit that they don't know what they would do with a 'normal' guy either.

Thanks for the honest replies. You both pretty much summed up my feelings in a nutshell. I recon I just needed some validation. It's like my brain knows what to do but applying the knowledge is (as they say) easier said than done. Why!!!! Why can't I just say, "ok girl, you know what to do - do it"
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eq

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Posted: 08-16-06 08:44am

About the cheating... It was an example.

Glad things have cleard up for you.
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fox1lady

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Posted: 08-26-06 08:06am

Went through the same thing with a guy who had a crush on me, he asked my neighbor if he could get my phone number for him. I told him if he was man enough to ask you for my phone number, he could be man enough to come and get it..He did..And we dated for 3yrs. In the first year he was great, the second year we broke up a few times and back together again.. Of course he was 40 and at the time I was 20, then by the third year he really started to change and I had to get out..Not because I saw his true color, but because I was having bad thoughts about beating him up for every year he put me through changes..I truely loved this man. The only problem we had was that I was not going to continue to be his trophy piece while he was out with is friends and take the verbal abuse once he got drunk...And continue to be with a man who wasnt going to marry me..It was a waist of time..To me dating is searching for someone who could be a potinetial canidate for marriage..Once I learned he was a waco, I terminated the relationship..By not returning phone calls, not answering the door when he came over, and staying away from people he knew..Once I did this I had a chance to heal from my wounds, and started dating someone else. The person I ran into was my high school sweet heart, we lost contact for 8yrs then reunited in 2004..This was the best thing for me and now we have been married for a year and I have to tell you at 26yrs old I have a great marriage. Not only having my best friend back, but an relationship that is healthy..So if she cant get the clue that she is not wanted, then she needs to take the time to reevaluate herself..Sometimes women have a hard time excepting rejection especially from men. Once you stop all contact then she will understand and move on.
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