Isolated And Without Will Posted: 08-11-06 10:21am
I just don't know what to do anymore
(please dont write in to say see a doctor
or therapist or meds cause I know these
options already).
I just feel like nothing is important to
me at all. I know that this is
depression mixed with heartbreak an d so
it is worse cause I feel that if I just
ahd someone in my life that loved me
unconditionally that I woudl be better.
But that is not really the problem. When
I have had that, I havent felt better,
just distracted and with a bit of external
gratification.
I knwo that I should learn to love myself
and value my life just for being but I
don't understand why. There is nothing
that I feel excited about, or particularly
interested in and I just don't knwo what
the point is of waking up, feeling relly
sad and depressed and often anxious and
sometimes really irrational, and
struggling through the day and then going
to bed to wake up throughout the night
crying and anxious and feelign so very
alone, just to wake up to a new day of the
same feelings.
Am I missing something cause I just dont
get why I bother at all.
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johnR
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 229
Posted: 08-11-06 16:59pm
I just read a couple of your posts where
you were offering advice to others and
never imagined you felt so poorly
yourself. I know how you feel and can
only share what is helping me and that is
what you advised other people in your note
I just read, cbt. I was in a great group
and maybe that's what you need so you have
others to help you do the exercises
everyday. The book I mentioned in my
other post to you by sam obitz hit a lot
of chords with me and was the one we used
in my group, it gave me a lot of hope when
I read through it. Other than the
chapters on suicidal thoughts it is a
shorter more personal account of what
david burns book has in it. I can tell
you from my experience when I stop doing
the exercises I slip back so I am doing
the tea forms almost everyday and it is
helping. As bad as you sound like you are
feeling right now you may want to go on
some antidepressants in the near term but
for me they were a boost and it was not
until my cbt group that I started to feel
better. Take care.
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mscreant
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 11 Aug 2006 Posts: 5 Location: Montreal
Posted: 08-14-06 19:04pm
Thanks john. I ll look for the book.
I've been thining about mes but they've
just been bad for me in the past and a lot
of ppl I know struggle to get off them
(and some ppl I know are doign so well
with them) that I just dont want to have
to deal with one more struggle, you
know?
Anyway. Thanks for the compassion and
kind words. And thanks for the response.
I was thinking how funny it would be if
I wrote about being isolated and no one
answered.
A
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johnR
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 229
Posted: 08-15-06 12:16pm
I certainly know what you mean. Meds can
be a double edged sword. But sometimes
you need a lift to get to a place where
you can help yourself. I hated many of
the side effects with meds myself, but
what they were good for in my case was
helping me get myself going. Otherwise I
am not sure I would have been able to get
myself to do the cbt exercises and they
are what have helped me hopefully put meds
in my past.
You sound like a very nice person and I am
impressed with how well adjusted you seem
even when you are clearly hurting so bad
inside. I never would have been able to
see the humor in the thought of no one
responding to a note I wrote about feeling
isolated when I was down! You must have a
great spirit inside of you :d
take care.
P.S. There's a link to the foreword of
the book by sam obitz on the books website
www.Tao3.Com
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trying_to_cope
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 31 Location: Seattle
Johnr Is On the Money Posted: 08-28-06 01:07am
Try that book, it will help! We're all
in this togther.
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johnR
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 229
Posted: 09-06-06 19:21pm
Thanks for he backup ttc :lol: I hope
you are doing well mscreant :d
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dead little me
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 40
I Feel Like That Too Posted: 09-15-06 08:10am
I know exactly what you are feeling. I
loved some one unconditionally and thought
that I had a purpose but then I lost that
person and it turned out that that person
never really loved me only as a friend and
we had been together ten months. But life
is the point f waking up in the moring.
You are the reason you wake up in the
morning because you have will inside you
and you are strong even if you dont think
you are.
I want to give up. I feel as if I have
lost the one reason to live but some thing
inside me does not feel that ok about
giving up so easily.
I no that you are feeling lost and having
a caca time but baby hang in there. One
day, when you find hope, everything will
get better.
Be strong and life is and can be beautiful
xxx
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johnR
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 229
Re: I Feel Like That Too Posted: 09-21-06 15:57pm
dead little me
wrote:
i know exactly what you are
feeling. I loved some one
unconditionally and thought that I had a
purpose but then I lost that person and it
turned out that that person never really
loved me only as a friend and we had been
together ten months. But life is the
point f waking up in the moring.
You are the reason you wake up in the
morning because you have will inside you
and you are strong even if you dont think
you are.
I want to give up. I feel as if I have
lost the one reason to live but some thing
inside me does not feel that ok about
giving up so easily.
I no that you are feeling lost and having
a health question time but baby hang in
there. One day, when you find hope,
everything will get better.
Be strong and life is and can be beautiful
xxx
well said, dead little me!
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johnR
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 229
Posted: 10-04-06 16:22pm
Mscreant, you still around? How are you
doing? It's been awhile and I hope you
are feeling better.
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trying_to_cope
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 31 Location: Seattle
U Can't Love People Unconditionally! Posted: 11-28-06 20:36pm
All that you're doing is putting that
person on a pedestal as a type of god and
hoping they'll love you for being special.
But at the root of this thinking is your
own self-resentment, and when you put a
mortal and flawed humna being in the
position of a god you will always be
disappointed.
Your love has to come from within first,
before you can truly love others.
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nineinchnails277
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 58 Location: texas
An problem Says What? Posted: 12-01-06 11:36am
It is posters like trying_to_cope that
make me hate fourms. This is a depression
fourm. To help ppl get less depressed.
Not more ya friend. People can be whoever
or what ever they want to. You do not
need to tell them all that crap. Ppl can
love whom ever they want. Even if there
is not propper 'condistion' or what ever.
