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Gallbladderless Pains.( Bile Duct Pains????)

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I often have what I call gallbladderless pains. I call it that because my gallbladder got taken out in 2000.



But I often get gallbladder pains without a gallbladder. When they took out my gallbladder they told me my bile duct had to be cleaned out because it was loaded down with bile stones and bile sludge.



During the many months I suffered with gall bladder pains before it was taken out, most of the pain is in what I now think to be my bile duct. Mostly in the back, below the right shoulder blade.



Anyone else have this or know about it?


Thank you :wink:
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replied January 19th, 2007
Re: Gallbladderless Pains.( Bile Duct Pains????)
bj_bobbi_jo wrote:
i often have what I call gallbladderless pains. I call it that because my gallbladder got taken out in 2000.




But I often get gallbladder pains without a gallbladder. When they took out my gallbladder they told me my bile duct had to be cleaned out because it was loaded down with bile stones and bile sludge.




During the many months I suffered with gall bladder pains before it was taken out, most of the pain is in what I now think to be my bile duct. Mostly in the back, below the right shoulder blade.




Anyone else have this or know about it?



Thank you Wink



hello,

I had my gallbladder out in 1994. During my surgery the doctor accidentally cut out my bile duct. I had 5 surgeries since then. Eventhough they took out my gallbladder, each surgery I had done I had new gallstones removed.
The doctors told me that it very common to have new gallstones, however, they form in your bile duct instead of your gallbladder. It will be 10 years since my last surgery.

Hope this helps,

theresa
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replied April 12th, 2007
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Post Cholcystectomy Syndrome
There is a syndrome which affects about 1 in 10,000 people who have their gall bladder out called spasm of the sphincter of oddi. it is horribly uncomfortable and is just like gall bladder pain. There are three types of this pain: Type I which includes elevated liver enzymes, pain, and increased pressure of the bile duct. Type II involves Elevated liver enzymes and pain. Type III involves occasional liver enzyme elevation and pain. If you are worried about this pain, consult your gastroenterologist to see whether testing for this problem is indicated in your case. I hope you get to the bottom of it.
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replied March 11th, 2008
I have the same problem!
Hello,
I have the very same problem, had suffered 11 years of the stones pain attacks, diagnosed by common bile duct's stones just 16 months ago, my bile duct had been cleaned by ERCP method, but then my doctor suggested that my gallbladder be taken out to eliminate any risk of future stones. However only 4 months after the ERCP and GB operation, I was recovered at the hospital again because of another stone pain attack, and this time they found 3 stones 7 mm. width each! My bile duct has been cleaned again by ERCP, now it's been a year since my second bile duct cleaning, and I have the pains again! So in my case at least it's not just a spasm, but the real reformation of stones!
I wanted to know why these stones are formed even though there is no gallbladder, and even though I consume very small amount of fat in my diet.
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replied February 8th, 2010
Where is the Docter's response?

Are they afraid to discuss your situation specifically?
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replied March 12th, 2010
I wrote the 1st post above way back in 2006 and Im still having the same issues but much worse now. Finaly a doctor is taking me serious and noticing that my liver engymes are to high. Other doctors did x-rays and ultrasounds and found nothing and said my bile ducts must be fine and when I ask why is it it hurts so much and feels like a gall bladder? They just simply dont know, a few have said perhaps this is nerve pain from getting the gall bladder removed.

It hurts worse when standing or sitting up for long at all. It hurts worse after I eat. It just plain hurts and is getting so bad that I feel as if I cant hardly go on anymore.

I know has got to be stones because one time I drank a lot of lemon juice straight and I passed a stone out in my BM (saw it on the toilet paper). Lemon juice is known to help clear the bile ducts out.

I hope and pray the liver doctor will be able to help me next week cause Im losing hope.----BJ_BOBBI_JO
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replied December 12th, 2011
stones in bile duct
I am going in to hospital tomorrow to have a stone removed from the bile duct. My gall bladder was removed years ago and I have had pain since. I have had x rays, ultrasound and MRIs and nothing showed up. Fortunately I finally found a great specialist. he said that some stones can only be identified by having an endoscopic ultrasound (where they put tubes down your throat) I had one of those and it showed up a 9mm stone which thankfully I am having out tommorrow! Yaaay!!
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replied March 16th, 2010
Elevated Liver panel post gall bladder surgery
I had my gall bladder out March 8th and still am having alot of pain. I saw the surgeon yesterday and he did labs and my liver panel is extremely elevated . Was told this is normal and to come back in one week and if it is still elevated they will send me to a specialist. He also told me that during surgery they saw maybe some stone or something in my main bile duct , but wasn't sure what it was. I am very nervous about all of this? Any advice would be help. Thanks
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replied April 15th, 2012
intenstional pain!
I'm 35 been suffering two years now with bowel movements this year finally the dr did somethhing but it wasnt my cure im in constent pain and dscomfort he removed my colan! but now my liver levels are high and pancreas is not so good either i have gallstones as well dr. refuses to remove im going nsane and dying slowly i feel ur pain any suggestions no one wants to touch me cause i have a stupid surgeon who doesnt listein???
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replied March 17th, 2011
Re: Gallbladderless Pains.( Bile Duct Pains????)
I am currently having the same issues and I won't let them take gallbladder. My common bile duct is dilated more than 16mm. I know the pain. Good luck and keep me posted plz. Anna
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replied March 30th, 2011
Dilated Bile Duct
Have they done ERCP to see what is in the bile duct? I am having one tomorrow for enlarged bile duct but no stones seen on CT Scan or Ultrasound. Have pain and fever everyday and also still have gallbladder.
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replied June 22nd, 2011
I see this site hasn't any notes since March/2011.
I've had pain in my right side for over a year, spreading to the centre abdomen, down my right side, my back, with belching (how embarrassing) after meals and various kinds of stomach and intestinal pain, that antacids did not help. I've had Ultrasound/normal,liver test slightly higher than it should be, hydrascan (I think that was it, it showed my gall bladder was emptying slow to moderately slowly), gall bladder removal/normal, no gall stones, after which the pain was a lot better, but then gradually got worse week by week. Gastroscopy/normal. Liver test still slightly higher than it should be, ERCP with cutting of Sphincter of Oddi/normal no gall stones. Slight improvement of pain, but now 2 weeks later still in a lot of pain. Worse in the morning when I wake up, after walking, when I sit and later in the afternoon. Waiting to see gastroenterologist in a month. What to do, what to do? Should I have a cat scan or MRI does anyone know? I'm 67 yrs old, otherwise in good health. I really don't want to resign myself to living with this pain for the next 20 yrs or so if I don't have to. I'm usually a very active person, and though I can find things to do, I like reading, normal would be better.
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replied December 21st, 2011
I am 28 and am about to have an ercp with stent placement. I have already had the pacreatitis and the pain is horrible. I was hospitalized over the summer and my surgeon just said I had an ulcer in my stomach which they cannot reach, since I had a gastric bypass. Then I was just hospitalized for a week during thanksgiving to have surgery and schedule the ercp with stent placement, from the elevated liver enzymes and pancreatitis. I am looking to find out if anyone knows the recovery of a ercp with stent placement. To top it off I had to have a gtube placed to have this all done. I hope you found out some information. I am trying to figure out if I have to take off work again, after the stent placement. Especially since I work with heavy lifting. Anyone know?
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