Precose Rx'd For Reactive Hypogycemia Posted: 08-03-06 14:55pm
Hi blackdog,
i'm a newbie here just by a few seconds
ago and have been searching information
and doing research on my just diagnosed
"hypoglycemia"
my lows are not caused by an excess of
insulin but the inability to process or
metabolize sugars.
The most frequent suggestion i'm seeing is
that we must change our diets which I
thought I ate healthy to begin with.
I started having my lows six yrs ago but
they are progressivly getting worst with
age and are happening more frequently.
My endo prescribed a medication named
precose.
It is in a class of pharmaceuticals called
"alpha-glucosidase inhibitorss, and works
in the intesine, slowing down the
digestion of carbohydrates, and
lengthening hte time it takes for cab's to
convert to glucose, thereby facilitating
better blood glucose control. It mainlly
influences the level of blood sugar after
eating.
This type of medication is usually
prescribed to people who have diabetes
type 2 but can be used for reactive
hypoglycemic's as well.
Did you ever hear of this drug?
It was sold in europe first before being
approved here in the u.S.
Just thought i'd mention this.
Linda
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Posted: 08-03-06 20:20pm
I've heard of it action in another drug,
this girl who I worked with had taken
something like it but I didn't know much
about her background. This is going back
10 years ago when I started with this. I
don't know anyone whose taken this drug
personally unfortunatly.
However from my understanding unless I
misunderstood it. Its used to treat type
2 diabetics like you said. Im a little
weary of its use for this unless you
specifically know you are a certain way
with having high sugar levels spike after
meals. Since usually despite many caues
of hypo, most over secret insulin.
Causing the crash in sugar from that.
Slowing the digestion isn't going to
correct an already spastic pancreas
response since it starts in the stomach
secreting the horomone.
Just being known type 2's they usually
have higher sugar levels circulating at a
time to afford what this drugs does- slow
glucose uptake, giving their little
insulin a chance to do its job. I can see
how they would benefit then from that.
However, if its too much insulin you know
you have, I would fear a really bad sugar
crash from lack of enough
absorption/delayed absorption. Especially
on a low sugar diet we keep anyway.
They state that people taking this
drug alone for hypoglycemia that it
wouldn't cause hypoglycemia. But those
who are taking insulin could risk a hypo
attack since the insulin level is
increased in drug form and you need enough
sugar acting already to resist a crash.
Since you can get a hypo reaction purely
from not enough eating or over insulin
output its hard to label it I would think,
good for all forms of hypo.
So if you already secrete too much, I
would only guess that could happen too.
Whether you are reactive hypo or not. It
depends of whats going on in your system
causing it. Also what you are eating,
slower digested foods and fat like our
diets already consist of I cant imagine it
being good on ur gallbladder, having it
sit there and liver/colon too. I would
think it would be okay eating quick carbs,
fruit and pasta. But not anything slower
broken down.
Also, the drug is heavy on your liver and
kidneys and gastro tract after a few
months. I wouldn't believe this would be
a safe long term drug considering already
having a metabolic malformalty. I
wouldn't want to purposely mess with the
kidneys/ liver farther already since it
can impact sugar metabolism if harmed from
the drugs burden on the system.
Don't want to be negative, hell if it
works it would be wonderful. But im just
trying to look at it in a different
preventive perspective since hypoglycemia
is still considered in the medical
community as "idiopathic" they don't know
much either and I would be very cautious
with it.
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Posted: 08-03-06 22:14pm
Yeah, you're totally correct. Glucose
starts to enter the blood in the mouth,
esophagus and stomach, which is way before
the intestines. In addition, the
pancreas reacts to type of food as it
passes it, so there's really nothing this
would do other than keep the carbohydrate
load for the day more stable.
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lintek
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Posted: 08-04-06 08:36am
I already was told a yr ago by my gastro
that I have some malabsorption that they
detected thru a stool speciman which means
if there's fat detected in the sample,
it's malabsorption. But malabsorption to
what?
He's put me on enzymes which I stopped
because I couldn't tolerate it.
I don't know if the culprite causing all
the problem was due to a particular
ovarian cyst that was chronic and wouldn't
disipate for a yr.
This is before I was even tested for hypo
which I was having symtoms all along but
they never tested me.
My first gtt test 3 months ago that was
suggested by my gp referred me to an
endocronoligst after seeing it dropped
down to 27 in the fourth or 5th hour.
She couldn't believe it and told me she
wanted to perform one in her office just
to make sure the lab didn't mess up.
She gave me only a 3 hr test compared to
the longer one and on the last hour, I
dropped down to 42 by the meter testing
and lab reading came out to 32.
I haven't been back to her yet for a
follow up visit yet and she prescribed the
meds to me over the phone.
I don't think i'm going to take them after
reading your response about it.
Doctors are so quick to write out scripts
in western medicine.
There's a scientist named Dr.Young, have
you heard of him? The inner light company
of supplements and tinctures. He has
proven that diabetes type 2 is caused by
over growth of yeast and that if we
diligently change our diets to eating less
acidic foods and more alkaline that our
blood cells and tissues and organs would
be in a healthier state therefore
preventing the body from disease.
He suggests loads of greens, legumes, no
milk products, no yeast or wheat products,
etc.
I find it extemely strict to follow but
once you gradually take things out of the
diet slowely, like meats, and add fish and
other forms of protein, and take out
sweets and sugars and flours, the body
starts improving.
His wife shelly even made a cook book for
the public to follow if they'd like. Her
entire family eats so healthy. He is a
microbiologist or some type of dark field
microscopist. Very expensive equipment
such as the type of microscope they use to
see the damaged blood cells and all the
yeast floating around.
These organisms feed off the sugar and
junk we eat and when they excrete their
urine and feces into our bodies, it makes
us feel sick, lethargic, causes food
allergies, causes skin conditions, and
much much more. I can go on and on.
I find this very interesting and was
wondering if anyone else here has read his
work? I saw my own blood and the yeast
that was floating around in it.
That's how I met my boyfriend whom I now
with for 6 yrs. He met Dr.Young at a
seminar and I met my b/f through a freind
who referred him to me because he was
worried for my health.
I went to him for an enlarged lymphnode on
my neck
where I can find the post here about foods
we should and should't eat.
I see alot of mention of it but I can't
find it.
Can you direct me?
Thank you for your input,
linda
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Posted: 08-04-06 09:28am
Look for stan's diet version 8, there's a
list in there of foods to avoid. I've
heard the yeast theory, and really there
is no one thing that causes this, it's
often a number of issues. If you really
have a yeast problem (which he's saying is
candida albicans), you'd have bad yeast
infections, especially in your gential
region, mouth and armpits. If you don't
have this, forget it. The overgrowth of
yeast in our case is usually caused by the
overall imbalance and subsequent
sensitivity to a variety of things. I
actually had it for a short time, then it
went away, but it can't be blamed for
everything. The whole akalinity/acidity
thing is a bunch of crap too;
unfortunately, there is no way to regulate
that because everything you eat is first
made acidic in the stomach, and then
neutralized by the pancreas. It is not
possible to adjust the alkalinity/acidity
of the blood without causing serious harm
to the body. Allow me to explain. Your
entire body is geared to keep the ph at an
appropriate level, if it deviates, severe,
serious illness can result and even death.
If our bodies reacted in this way to
foods, we'd be in trouble. To actually
change the ph of your body, you'd have to
seriously, no joke, eat an entire bottle
of antiacid tablets at once. Then you'd
die. You have to seriously overload your
body to cause the adjustment, foods will
not do this, otherwise human beings would
all have to eat severely limited diets.
It's just simple with blood sugar
problems, the body is very sensitive to
change and the glucose mechanism is so
faulty that minor alterations can cause
major problems, but it has nothing to do
with what you said. If you look at the
diet he prescribes, all it is is the
typical blood sugar diet for hypoglycemics
or diabetics, it doesn't do anything other
than keep sugar stable.
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omysty
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Diet? Posted: 08-06-06 17:46pm
Stan I cant find this diet??
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Stan
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Posted: 08-07-06 10:06am
Not to sound rude, I really don't care,
but why do people keep saying that? If
you look on this forum you will find it.
Stan's diet version 8.
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omysty
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For Linda Posted: 08-07-06 15:11pm
Linda,
how do you make it at work? Im like
constantly dizzy, what do you eat in a
tyoical day?
Thanks,
dana
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carrli
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Precose Posted: 08-07-06 15:56pm
Hi ,
i am new to this forum but have suffered
from hg since I was about 10 or maybe
even before, it has stolen so much of my
life and I am so grateful to have found
this site, thanks so much stan and others.
I feel like finally someone out there
knows what I have been suffering with. I
have felt like I was going crazy,
especially as a young child with no one to
tell this to. One of my symptoms is
muscle fasiculations all over when my
sugars are low,due to magnesium
deficiency, before knowing this I always
thought I was just a freak.
Linda, I have taken precose, I am from the
bahamas and in this region it is called
glucobay. It has not done much for my
symptoms. I have to agree with stan and
nypumpkin due to its mechanism of action
it may only help someone who has a problem
with carbohydrate metabolism but you still
have to adhere to a low carb regimen due
to the gi effects of this drug. I feel my
hg is due to hyperinsulinmia and insulin
secretion starts to increase even before
glucose levels start to rise, just by
smelling food. By the time I took the
drug (with the first bite) it was always
too late.
Stan your info about the sawtooth curve,
not being able to eat anything in the
morning, feeling better later in the day
and about being so sensitive that you can
eat very little has liberated me thank
you, thank you so much. This is a
wonderful site and I feel a lot of people
are being helped by this. For those who
can't find the diet just type in "stan
diet version 8"into your browser and it
will pop up.
Carrli
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lintek
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Posted: 08-08-06 10:48am
Dana,
how long have you been suffering with your
symtoms?
Do you follow a low carb diet religously
like stan suggests?
I have to admit that i've been sick for
over a yr now jumping from doctor to
doctor and not till last month did we find
out the problem. I'm not a firm believer
on taking medications right off the bat,
but because i"ve been sick for awhile with
no diagnosis, just maybe, maybe I should
give this medication a shot. If this is
the answer sitting right in front of me,
why wouldn't I want to give it a try?
If it doesn't help, then I just stop it.
I already eat a healthy diet yet feel so
weak, lethargic, light headed and horrible
horrible memory problems that are only
getting worst.
I already eat healthy, it's not the food
that i'm eating that's making me sick, but
something else is going on inside and i'm
going to give it my best shot to at least
try the medication. It's not set in
stone that I have to take it for ever if I
choose not to.
It;s my choice and my well qualified
doctor's choice
are you a doctor stan? Or a certified
nutritionist?
Just curious?
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omysty
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Linda Posted: 08-08-06 11:05am
After 2 hours I must eat something, my
head is spinning I guess from the diving
glucose or it just cant stablize, and yes
its yeast related I have that too to
complicate matters, be glad you dont have
that, and the worst is no docotor
understands .
Do you eat often, whats a tyoical meal for
you? Im also gluten intolerant
life is not grande........
Dana
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Precose Posted: 04-22-08 07:42am
I was just given precose as well, for what
they think might be either hypoglycemia or
glucose intolerance. I'm afraid to take
the medication, because I don't know if it
will help or just make me feel worse.
Especially because the doctor isn't even
sure what it is. It's been rough trying
all of these different medications that
the doctors have been giving me. I also
feel really weak, lethargic, light headed
and am having horrible memory problems. I
can't concentrate and I can't remember
what someone told me just a few minutes
ago. I just feel like total crap, and
don't know how much longer I can take it.
I've changed my diet and am eating healthy
and it doesn't seem to be doing
anything... but I know Stan said it takes
time. I ate fresh vegetables last night,
with fish, and some cheese. I woke up in
the middle of the night with being
slightly sweaty, feeling dizzy, feeling
sick to my stomach, and almost instantly
passed out as soon as I stood up. I had
this wave of anxiety come over me, it was
terrible. I took 1/4 of a Klonopin just
to go back to sleep, and I still feel
terrible this morning. I don't see
another doctor until Monday but I almost
called 911 last night because of my
increased heart rate and how terrible I
felt. If the Klonopin hadn't relaxed me
enough to go back to sleep, I would have
ended up back in the hospital.
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Sadly, going to the hospital like this is
something all hypoglycemics seem to
experience at least once. I know I did.
This is all part of the healing process.
As I say in my diet post, expect to
absolutely HATE life when you start this
diet. You'll swear you have cancer or
worse for the majority of the week.
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kristin777
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Posted: 04-25-08 07:02am
Haha! You read my mind -
that's exactly how I feel. I'm really
beginning to worry and am having an MRI
done today. I was thinking - what if they
find a tumor, or cancer?? It has to be
something awful.
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You'll regret doing it, but it's not like
it hurts you in any way. I made such
mistakes in the early part of my days with
this, CAT scans and all of that. You'll
find nothing.
You read my mind -
that's exactly how I feel. I'm really
beginning to worry and am having an MRI
done today. I was thinking - what if they
find a tumor, or cancer?? It has to be
something awful.