I would never talk anyone into abortion, nor would anyone who is actually pro-choice so i'm not sure what your point actually is.
I'm sure some women can have a baby as a teenager/young woman and have a career but that's a decision for her to make. I know for a fact that I would not have the career I have now if either of my pregnancies had gone full term. It's the womans choice and only she knows best for her situation. Also, most women are aware of the other options available (adoption or parenting) but neither is suitable for a woman who doesn't actually want to be pregnant

Does anyone have a program to keep up with this mystery person?????

I don't even think she has a program trina she seems very confused on her stance either that or she is there to cause drama

i got dizzy just reading her posts. :d

The waltzers spring to mind lmao

Waltzers or a head injury!!!!!! Man is there a lot of information coming from her.....But its all just copied from a text book.Her situation ( I believe she posted she had a stillbirth) is way different from someone who has an abortion. Myself and another girl on here had a termination at 17 weeks, both in a long term relationship yet our circumstances were entirely different. Has this mystery person even considered the fact that some women are bullied into having a termination? Where her partner playes on her worries and emphasises her weaknesses untill she believes she will be an absolutly god-awfull mum? (btw before anyone attacks saying no-one can be bullied like that...Im speaking from exsperience!!!).... Terminations arent all happy phew there is a way out experience, its a nerve-wracking-guilt-inducing-hate-yoursel f procedure so before she passes judgement look at herself, im sure she has faults enough!!!

I would also never talk someone into an abortion, but on quite a few occasions I have explained how abortion is not[/i] homicide from the biological (and logical) perspective and how it does [b]not cause the fetus pain prior to 24 weeks. Unlike quite a few pro-lifers, I have never had to lie to someone to get the to try and understand what I was saying. That all being said, I have never told someone "well you should abort because..." - I have, however, taken the lies fed to them by pro-lifers and replaced them with scientific truths that don't involve the catholic god.


I would also never talk anyone into having a baby. On another forum I frequent, I see the occasional post from a clueless pregnant teenage girl and I make sure to tell her as concisely as possible about the physical, mental, and financial burdens of being a parent. I do not encourage an abortion (or even adoption), but I make sure I let her know honestly what she is in for. And I don't need to be a parent to know this - scarily, I know more about how hard it is to raise kids than some parents do. Sometimes they decide on their own they should abort becuase they aren't ready to feed a wailing baby at four in the morning, change .E.D.I.T

I don't know about the rest of you but no one can talk me into anything I don't want to do. I think people should do what they feel comfortable doing.

if I was in a situation like that I would get the hell out of there. My mother stayed in an abusive relationship for years when I was born. I still feel she was really selfish for putting me through that. I don't believe the whole 'but I couldn't escape' story. Women should find any means nesecarry to escape. Your child comes first. As soon as any woman finds out she is pregnant and is in an abusive relationship it is not about her anymore and she should get out!

all I can say on this one is sometimes it is easier said then done... Some people do fear for their safety and their lives. And the fact that she is pregnant... Makes it all the more harder

'some things are easier said than done' that is a phrase made up by lazy people. (no offence to you tazzy d)

it takes a motivated person to want to change their situation. Anyone is capable of changing their situation for the better if they really put their mind to it.

well the reason why I said that it is better off said then done. Is because I was put into the same situation, and no matter how hard you try to get away or leave sometimes you just cant. Some people arent lazy they are just scared. Scared that they will be beat again and loose their baby. Scared for their life that something bad will happen. When you are dealing with abusive people their state of mind is not always in the right state of mind for the better words.. And the law is not always on your side. I had protective orders and charges after charges and he just kept getting hit on the wrist with a fine. So sometimes it is easier said then done. I am out of the situation now, but after they finally admitted him..

I never said I was in an abusive relationship I just said that he found my weakness and played on it!!!!!!

There are all kinds of abuse. Even if someone doesn't hit you, they can still abuse you.

It is coming across like abuse but without anyone actually knowing me or my bf, or the the whole situation then I guess I cant put it any way others will understand. Im trying to explain that when a woman falls pregnant the man is sometimes more scared than the woman and after sittng down and talking rationally explaing reasons he doesnt want it, if the woman pig stubbornly calls him names tries to bully him into fatherhood then yes the man is going to reciprocate.....Now does it sound like abuse??!!

Its abuse both ways............ The woman is abusing him mentally.. And in return he retaliates back with abuse wether by mental or physical

Its life....U cant do the right thing in every situation.. U go by ur feelings at the time and at the time he was scared and I was stubborn...Nobody is perfect....And fyi since feb our relationship has gone from strength to strength....I think we have had one tiff...About the toilet seat being left up!!!! I'd know if my relationship was abusive .... We spend time with each other talk, like majorativly the same things and have a laugh together....Espacially about the cat who is getting rather podgy these days...So u see my relationship isnt abusive its "normal" the situation we were in was a highly emotional one and we both reacted to it...All I was trying to say is when pro life are banging on about if u want ur baby walk away the baby comes before everything and I was trying my best to say it isnt always that easy...Obviously I either came across wrong or people misunderstood me...But trust me... Me and the "hubby" are fine.... The cat on the other hand is starting a diet this weekend lol

now .T.H.A.T.S abuse!!! Poor puddy tat...Maybe he's just big boned?!

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lol, I say the same thing about my son.