Hypoglycemia Stages of Recovery Posted: 07-27-06 11:48am
I have read jeraldine saunders
hypoglycemia handbook where she describes
four stages of recovery/wellness. Do you
believe that she is pretty accurate in her
descriptions? I have been following the
diet for 4 weeks and although I notice
some improvement, there are days when I
feel like i'm right back where I started.
Anyone else?
I guess i'm asking what "stage" you're in
and did you, like me, ever think that you
are never going to feel normal again!? I
guess you can tell i'm having a bad
day....But so was yesterday...
Saunders summaries of recovery stages:
stage 1: there may be an increase in the
severity of the symptoms, and there will
certainly be no improvement. Craving for
sugar disappears after three weeks if the
diet is maintained. Average length of
this stage is three to five weeks.
Stage 2: sudden onset of a feeling of
well-being. This stage is characterized
by rapid, wide swings in the mood and the
level of energy, not necessarily on an
equal basis.
Stage 3: gradual onset characterized by
the feeling that everything is better than
before treatment but not good enough yet.
It is during this stage that significant
progress is made in a slow, natural
manner.
Stage 4: a stage of continued health that
is used as a baseline in order to modify
the diet.
Thanks for any input,
renni
p.S. Why does this forum screw up the
capitalization of your posts? I post it
correctly and then it comes out with no
caps???
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Stan
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Posted: 07-27-06 15:13pm
Based on what you said, according to her
statements, you might not notice any
changes really until five weeks. Then
again, you've said you've noticed some.
I for one think her "stages" are a bunch
of crap. I actually was on her diet
before I got sick again and I can tell you
I pretty much felt like total trash nearly
the entire time. I was really, terribly
bad for at least four or five months (and
I mean bad, like sick and crying or
rolling around like a person almost every
day), okay for like six more (i still
couldn't even drive at this time), and
then fine until I screwed up (i didn't
actually know I had it yet). I don't
believe she went through enough people
before she wrote that, something tells me
she didn't. She does seem to admit that
there are plenty of exceptions when she
says something in there about "everyone is
different," but she should have given more
examples of this. I think she does give
one, saying something or rather about
someone going through all the stages in a
week or something. I can tell you that
me, on my diet, was pretty dang good after
two weeks, with sweeps in emotion and
physical symptoms for about two months and
then evened out until I had one bad day a
week, then one every two weeks, then two
days in a row every three weeks and
currently none. I wouldn't take what she
says to heart, it can be frustrating if
you do. I did not follow her phases at
all and I don't think anyone on here has.
The more I think about that book she
wrote, the more it kind of angers me off,
I think she's just milking it for cash now
and not updating it.
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Renni
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Posted: 07-27-06 15:27pm
Stan,
i'm not on her diet. I'm on yours. I
was just wondering what you thought about
her "stages".
R
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Stan
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Posted: 07-27-06 17:31pm
Oh, hahahah! Sorry, reading that up
there it makes it seem like you're doing
hers. Yeah, as I said, I don't agree
with them. It's too exact to apply to
everyone. If that were true, it would be
like saying everyone reacts in the same
amount of time to a drug. Not true.
Maybe she was trying to make people
hopeful with that, who knows? Might have
done the opposite for those unfortunates,
however, who go up to a year without
feeling back to normal. I noticed quite
a few people in airola's diet book were
not back to 100% for up to 13 weeks.
Some didn't even show any improvement at
all for up to six months. Sucks.
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Renni
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Posted: 07-27-06 19:11pm
Stan,
yeah I know what you mean. A lot of her
book is controversial to say the least.
I also find it odd that she is a lecturer
for the love boat cruises or whatever it
is that she does besides writing about
hypoglycemia. ? Her daughter's story
did touch me though. Sad. I guess
that's why she feels led to try to educate
about hypoglycemia and one thing i'll give
her is that she does acknowledge that it
is an actual condition. Lots of md's
don't.
That said, I actually think her "stages"
made me feel a little bit better because
it's been a month and i'm not 100%. I
have that problem with impatience
remember?
I think my biggest problem with this is
the "crash" that seemed to come out of the
blue a month ago. Sure I had some signs
and symptoms before but nothing like the
big crash and burn. Is that how it hit
you? All of a sudden? I think I read
your story that it kind of came on
suddenly too. I mean when it got really
bad.
Thanks for being there,
r
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Stan
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Posted: 07-27-06 19:15pm
Do you mean when I first got sick or when
I got sick after following her diet?
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wdiguy
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Posted: 07-27-06 21:51pm
Yeah if your talking about hypo suddenly
hitting you. I can say I had my symptoms
along time ago but they were tolerable. I
could go on with my day no problem. I
thought I had an anxiety disorder. Then
out of no where one day I got hit with
fatigue, leg aches, and constant yawning.
Thats when I feel hypo kicked in affect
and thats when I went to see a doctor.
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Stan
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Posted: 07-27-06 22:05pm
I was tired all the time and kind of loopy
but thought it was just me, never really
worried about it. I had some sense
something was coming because of some weird
symptoms that cropped up, but the day was
in the morning on a february day, I
remember it well. I just woke up in a
state of panic for no reason at all and
life wasn't the same until I finally got
the diet right.
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Renni
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Posted: 07-27-06 23:02pm
Ok...That makes me feel better. I had
symptoms but just thought it was anxiety
too or "the flu" or whatever. I'd get
dizzy occasionally, be very tired in the
afternoon, have headaches. Then a month
ago I was in a stressful work environment,
very busy, long hours, not eating well,
etc. And I went to bed one night "ok" and
the next morning could barely get out of
bed. I had no energy, so fatigued I felt
like someone had pulled a plug and all my
blood had drained out of me. I was
constantly hungry, so thirsty I couldn't
drink enough water along with achy legs
and arms, a stiff neck and panic would
just come out of nowhere. It scared me
and I made a Dr. Appt. Which basically
told me nothing. Everything was normal.
Thanks for the input. I just don't seem
to have energy yet and it's got me down.
Most of my other symptoms are much better
though. My legs and arms just feel so
lifeless and heavy. Yuck.
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wdiguy
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Posted: 07-27-06 23:46pm
Yeah it was very hard for me to get up.
My body would be aching all the time. I
used to be late to work cause I just didnt
care to get up and was so tired. I
remember being constantly hungry also.
Its funny you seem like you were going
through the same symptoms and got the same
results from the doctors, everythings
normal. Took me 3 years going to the
doctors once a month and doing tons of
blood work. My fatigue has finally lifted
a ton, you just have to get the right
diet. But of course everyones different
and some people do take longer to get
results. Just keep at it.
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Renni
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Posted: 07-28-06 09:37am
Thanks guy
i will keep at it. This morning I feel
really good. It's weird how the tiniest
thing seems to affect our energy levels.
I never used to be this way! I think
that maybe i'm not eating enough or often
enough. I can't tell yet when or how
much to increase the time between meals
and snacks. It's inconvenient and so
tiring to eat so often. How can you plan
a day around so much eating!? Especially
when you're not even hungry. My constant
hunger is gone now.
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Stan
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Posted: 07-28-06 18:01pm
Yeah, it does suck and just takes time.
I wish there was more to say. So many
times I thought I wasn't eating enough but
it was just another symptom that went away
in time. I don't mean thinking like that
I mean actually feeling like I needed
more. Obviously the body fighting for
more sugar.
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mendigoodwin
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Posted: 07-30-06 11:27am
Fatigue - it is a tough one. I am on
stan's diet and really started feeling
quite a bit better after a few days and
lots better at the three week point. I
continued to have an unexplainable bad day
occasionally - and still do now at the 9
week mark, but rarely. I described my
fatigue to my endocrinologist. He tested
for vitamin d deficiency, which I had, and
placed me on a prescription form of
vitamin d. It has helped tremendously!
While following this diet strictly helped,
I had an issue outside of the hypo.
There was an underlying vitamin
deficiency. My thoughts are that if this
diet does not fix it, there is something
other than just hypo causing the symptoms.
The vit d test was expensive - $308.00,
but it was so worth it because I would
probably still be very fatigued.
(just to mention - I was on a multivitamin
with vitamin d - not enough to make up for
my deficiency obviously.)
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Stan
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Posted: 07-30-06 11:42am
It should be noted that my diet does not
provide all of the vitamins you should be
getting, so it is advisable to get a good
multi (cut into thirds and only taking one
part of it a day) to balance it out. My
calcium tablets have vitamin d in them.
I need to fix my diet and make sure I add
this info in there, but you're definitely
right. I'm not sure though whether it's
the hypoglycemia causing the deficiencies
or if it's something else entirely.
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Renni
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Posted: 07-30-06 20:16pm
Thanks for the info on fatigue mendi and
stan. I will remember your advice and
if i've not seen a big difference by the
time I go for my follow-up appt with my
doc i'll ask about testing for vitamin
deficiencies and the like. I see her in
about 3 weeks.
The thing is - the fatigue I experience
can be traced directly to eating most of
the time now. If I eat regularly (every
2-3 hours) and follow the diet, i'm mostly
ok. If i'm busy and my meals are a bit
further apart or if I skip one altogether
or if I don't eat enough food....Boom i'm
hit with fatigue within a few hours.
It's clearly tied into what i'm eating.
I can say that it's not as severe as it
was at first and it doesn't seem to linger
as long as it used to so that must mean my
body is starting to recover? At least
somewhat? Do you think?
I'll look into vitamin d deficiency and
see if it sounds plausible.
Thanks! R
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Stan
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Posted: 07-30-06 20:45pm
Yep, sounds like recovery to me!
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Renni
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Posted: 07-30-06 21:13pm
Well it's no fun. I do see light at the
end of the tunnel though at least....75%
of the time. :)
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Stan
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Posted: 07-31-06 08:21am
Most of us have been like that at the
start, sorry to say. There were days in
a row I was so tempted to say screw it and
eat candy or when i'd doubt everything I
was eating and worried I was dying. I
wish there were a way to avoid this
craziness at the beginning.
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tygrbabi
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Posted: 07-31-06 10:02am
Renni, I wanted to give my input on this
as well.
The "craziness" stan talks about does stop
and it's a slow process. I, too, doubted
everything I eat, including vitamins. I
became so obsessed I was dying, I would
check my heatbeat. I think it's funny
now, but then, it wasn't.
I thought I would never get better but i'm
better everyday. The heavy arms/legs was
the last symptom to go. So, hang in
there. You will get better but you can't
skip a meal or eat later. That
"confuses" you're body and slows the
recovery process.
As for the fatigue, I bought sugar-free
sublingual b-12 tablets. I would take it
first thing in the morning, just so I can
function. Now, I feel so much better, I
sometimes forget to take it.
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Renni
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Posted: 07-31-06 10:28am
Thanks tygrbabi,
i am exactly like what you described
yourself as in the beginning. On most
days now, I feel "better" enough to think
that there's hope and it's all just
hypo....But there are still times (i'm 5
weeks in) when I think maybe it's
something else and I really am dying of
something. Logically if I think about
it though, i've been having these symptoms
so long i'd probably already be dead if it
was going to kill me.
You're right and I know I have to make
eating the priority and not skip or delay
nutrition. With my profession it's hard
to do a lot of times and I look forward to
getting far enough along in recovery that
I have a little more slack. I'll keep
plugging along and coming here for
encouragement and information. You're
all great!