Does a Z/e/f Have a Right to Life? (Page 1)

The argument i've heard is because the zef is human; they even go so far sometimes as to actually say it is a person. I personally don't believe it is. Because people have experiences, emotions, and thoughts.

Whereas animals are just animals.

Now who is attacking? Anyway... No, I wasn't, and I don't see where you got that from. Oh, was it it because I said that what makes us human is emotions, thoughts, etc? And the fact that fetuses don't have those things? Sorry you don't like the facts of biology. Their brains aren't developed enough for that, according to research.

The line "animals are just animals" is seperate, thus why it is on a seprate line. It is in reference to the other part of her question, where she asked why you people are okay with animals dying, but not fetuses. Again, context hon. You're good at taking me out of context. Do you practice?

Please, we're trying to be logical here. Don't bring religion into it. I personally feel it is very bad to base a decision that can potentially kill thousands of young women on a religion. And i'm taking about all the girls who can die because they can't get a safe abortion. Use religion for yourself, but america (at least) is built upon a seperation of church and state (or so it used to be. The current president is mucking that up though).

Their are many times that a animal is better off then a human when they are old and are hurting they do not have to suffer like a lot of human's do, this is why I feel abortion is good in a sense that some babies will not be born to suffer and be brought in this world unloved, not fed, unwanted, molested, beaten and abused. This is why I am glad that their is a choice, even though I do realize that this choice may not be easy.

[quote="eiri"]



if the people feel something is bad, or good, or needs adjusting, it is made into a law. Well, the law stands (made by the people, for the people as america is; and gee most of europe too) that abortion is not murder. The people themselves say it isn't, and obviously the majority feel that way, and so that is what it is. not murder.
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we have stated erie that abortion whether you call it murder or not is exactly the same like a murder. A planned death of a human being. So if you have an abortion you have to say that you did planned a death and went ahead with the dead plan of a human being. You take a life away exactly like in a murder. The only difference is that in murder case you go to jail and with abortion you do not. Act is the same.

[quote="eiri"]
and the major difference between humans and animals is the fact that we're self-aware. We know we're here, and we know what we do. Thus, we are the only animal capable of making our own desicions, and conciously knowing what we do.
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like I said man is the only one capable of being aware of god and fellowship with him.

[quote="eiri"]
so please let us continue to be able to excersize one of our basic human rights.
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don't need to worry about that one, you are free to abort all the babies that you want. Actually I would encourage bahaha to have abortion, we sure don't want replicas of bahaha out there lol.

[quote="eiri"]
religion was invented because we were primitive and scared of the world we didn't understand. So we made up stories to explain why the ground got too dry in the summer, and why lights fel from the sky when it rain, and why monsters roared in the forests too. It's all made up, every single religion. Every one of them. So don't base your morals on stories made up by frightened humans at night, when they were trying to chase away the night-frights.[ /quote]

now this is your own personal opinion that I sure don't agree with you. I do not base my morals in stories made up by frightened human beings. I believe in god, I have seeing first hand the miracles and have experienced myself so I am fully convinced of his existance. This is the silliest thing you have said erie.