Cutting Back On Planned Parenthood Funding Posted: 06-30-06 02:09am
I got a message in my inbox saying that
there will be a law debated soon that
deals with cutting back the funding for
women's health clinics, as well as setting
stricter guidelines pertaining to people
who work in the clinics and who they can
take as patients.
A letter written by some pro-life fundie
catholic zealot claimed that birth control
promotes promiscuity and that it's wrong
to dispense contraception to teens for
that very reason. This man also went on
to mention how teen pregnancies have gone
up over 600 percent in the past 40 years,
and how there was a highly noticeable
increase in sexually transmitted diseases
and teen suicides. What the fool doesn't
realize is that teens are no longer being
educated about sex or protection, which is
why there is an increase in such things as
teen pregnancy and stds. So how does he
propose that refusing to give teen birth
control will fix the problem of teen
pregnancies?
This country is headed down the toilet at
an alarming rate. They want to ban
abortion everywhere and cut back on
funding for women's health clinics - what
benefit would we possibly get out of this?
Forcing women to give birth will just put
even more unwanted children in the foster
system, or force children into homes where
they are not wanted. I would almost
guarantee that, if either abortion is
banned nationwide or funding for clinics
is cut, there will be a significant
increase in the number of cases of child
neglect, abuse, and homicide. Apparently
that is what pro-lifers really want...To
see women suffer through unwanted
pregnancy, deliver an unwanted child, then
hope the woman is put in prison for
abusing or killing her child so she can
suffer even more.
These extremists aren't trying to save
babies - they're doing their best to put
women back in "their rightful place",
which is being forever barefoot and
pregnant, and being slaves and sex toys to
their husbands. The people trying to have
these laws passed just hate women, pure
and simple. Most letters I have read that
were written to the governor or whoever
about these issues were written by men,
but I know there are a lot of pro-life
women out there who support their cause.
I wonder if these women would be
supportive of it if they knew they were
advocating the loss of their most
important rights.
I fear how much worse this country will
become at the rate it's going now.
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cherry88
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Posted: 06-30-06 06:27am
Which country?
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Cambion
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Posted: 06-30-06 20:46pm
I'm not even going to go into how retarded
you sound, sunshine424. You have the
thinking capacity of a rock and can't make
a logical point to save your life. If you
don't agree with what's being said here,
then get out. You two-watt pro-life
fundie zealots have your own board, so go
use it.
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sandyallen
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Posted: 06-30-06 22:18pm
Well said cambion!
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cherry88
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Well Said! Posted: 07-01-06 06:56am
cambion
wrote:
i'm not even going to go
into how retarded you sound, sunshine424.
You have the thinking capacity of a rock
and can't make a logical point to save
your life. If you don't agree with
what's being said here, then get out.
You two-watt pro-life fundie zealots have
your own board, so go use
it.
lmao!! This is so well said!!! I could
not have said it myself, maybe they will
get the picture one day and stay in their
forum *with their own kind* again lmao,
and lol to lolbahlolbah, by the way do you
two have a name? :)
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cherry88
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Posted: 07-01-06 07:07am
sunshine424
wrote:
she can rot in prison for
all I care.
thats the spirit sunshine! You really
brighten up peoples day dont you? Ironic
isnt it? :roll:
sunshine424
wrote:
what comes around goes
around, karma, do unto others as you would
yourself......
yeah sure, you watch "my name is earl" I
see. If what goes around comes around,
they why do your throw around retarted
offences and expect it not to come back to
you?Thicksh!T
sunshine424
wrote:
that all comes in to play on
judgment day. Believe it or not, I don't
give a rat's a.Ss. One day you will see
and the pro-life movement will win. So
keep whining, your all going to
lose.
we can see you dont give a rats @ss,thats
why you keep coming back.Lmao
we dont give a rats @ss about what you
say, you so wrong its not even funny. How
in the world are we going to lose? Your
retarded and come into *our forum*
expecting people to agree with you :roll:
and where is your pet 'nightangel' to
stick up for your pointless rants. Your
outnumbered, get over it, stay out of our
forum.
sunshine424
wrote:
again, this country is
rotting because of attitudes like yours.
Straighten
up.
indeed it is your a prime example, fool.
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Lissy79
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Posted: 07-01-06 07:33am
Here we go posts from some pamperd muppet
who has been lucky enough not to have to
decide whether to have a termination or
not.... God what rocks do these people
crawl from?!?!?!... Do they still try to
feed the 5,000 on 2 fish and a loaf of
bread?!?!...Times change women and men are
equal and why shouldnt women have the
right to say when they want children hmmm
"sunshine".... More like womanslave ...
Do u lay down for ur man to wipe his feet
on u evernight luv??
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cherry88
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Posted: 07-01-06 07:40am
lissy79
wrote:
hmmm "sunshine".... More
like womanslave ... Do u lay down for ur
man to wipe his feet on u evernight
luv??
lmao lisa! I knew u had it in you girl!
This is soooo true! Shes the typical old
school american girl stuck in the 50's
woman cooking and cleaning for her husband
for when he returns from a 'ard day at
work. 6 little ankle biters cause she
refuses to use contraception. Hating the
women who stand up for themselves...Cant
see her being the first female president
of the *united states*....Maybe us girls
from the united kingdom are too
intelligent for hypocritical american
pinny wearing freaks. Our numbers are
growing "sunshine" whatcha gonna do now?
:roll:
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Posted: 07-01-06 11:48am
I got rid of sunshine's posts for you all
^_^
but on-topic... It does alarm me that our
current president and governemnt is so
intent on destroying a century and a half
of women's rights and acheivements!
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Lissy79
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Posted: 07-01-06 15:54pm
Ah bless look who has crawled outta her
hole ....Would u like to debate over
abortion "luv" or would u like to start a
new post..One called " im secretly in love
with cherry88.."..... Cuz u sure as hell
cant seem to leave the girl alone... Ur
sniffing round her like a dog on heat ...
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cherry88
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Posted: 07-01-06 21:41pm
Lmao lisa, she makes out that she doesnt
care but she does. Her and nightangel
love me. Its obvious thats why they keep
targeting me. As for me sunshine..."job,
life, husband, some sex" 1)im on holiday u
wank stain so I cant get a job :roll: ,
life yeh sure I do have one, your point
being? Husband, im too young not everyone
is forced into a shotgun wedding like
yours. And as for sex im on hols and my
boyf is back home. Again you point being?
I dont cheat funnily enough.
You obviously enjoy coming onto our forum,
so carry on, obviously you are outnumbered
thats why no1 has agreed with you yet.
Hun your wrong, accept in life some people
dont agree with you. The only agruement
is "its killing a baby" obviously you are
an incredibly thick typical american
sterotype. It isnt killing a baby, and
you know that, no matter how many times is
it proven at 9 weeks it is an embryo you
cannot accept, cause your a scientist? No
because your a thick as cheese, some
things in life have to be taken seriously,
we obviously get to you or you wouldnt
come back!! We can accept you dont agree
with us, that why we stopped going to the
abortion debate, yet sadly you still come
here looking for trouble, trying to make
out we take it too seriously!! Lmao!!!
So howay luv, cause I think thats the man
of the house calling you to take him to
mcdonalds, chop chop!!!
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cherry88
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Posted: 07-01-06 21:43pm
eiri
wrote:
i got rid of sunshine's
posts for you all ^_^
but on-topic... It does alarm me that
our current president and governemnt is so
intent on destroying a century and a half
of women's rights and
acheivements!
thanks eiri, if you
could be so kind to get rid of her posts
again please? Thanks in advance :wink:
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Tylanas
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Posted: 07-15-06 14:08pm
Why exactly did the breast milk debate get
moved to the abortion debate forum? That
forum is an abortion debate forum, not a
milk-debate forum. Milk is not a
pro-choice pro-life issue, that's why it
was here, and not on the debate forum.
*shrug*
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lsipes
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Posted: 07-15-06 14:55pm
Quote:
and maybe get a
job, life, husband, some sex.....Because
clearly, you take this too seriously.
hmmmm. You're telling her to have sex?
But what about the use of bc and
possibility of the sex resulting in an
unwanted pregnancy ended by abortion?
You know... The actual topic of this
thread?
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lsipes
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Posted: 07-15-06 18:45pm
sunshine424
wrote:
lsipes
wrote:
Quote:
and maybe get a
job, life, husband, some sex.....Because
clearly, you take this too seriously.
hmmmm. You're telling her to have sex?
But what about the use of bc and
possibility of the sex resulting in an
unwanted pregnancy ended by abortion?
You know... The actual topic of this
thread?
if she does not want to become pregnant
then she and he can use bc stupid. Most
people know this but not those that choose
to get pregnant and abort after whining
that they became
pregnant.
you tooooootally missed the point of my
post. Who's the stupid one?
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Tylanas
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Posted: 07-15-06 22:37pm
lsipes
wrote:
Quote:
and maybe get a
job, life, husband, some sex.....Because
clearly, you take this too seriously.
hmmmm. You're telling her to have sex?
But what about the use of bc and
possibility of the sex resulting in an
unwanted pregnancy ended by abortion?
You know... The actual topic of this
thread?
are you on the wrong forum?
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I cant wait to see them take away the
funding
i wanted my tubes tied and they refused I
had to fight with the dr and they would
only do it if I had a c-section yep
because im still young although I have two
kids one of each and dont need anymore.
They say it makes woman promiscious wait
till they take b/c away and everyone is
having kids I wonder where the governement
will get the money to fund all those teens
doing it idiots.....
Woman are equals to men (yes I happen to
be a feminist) and I will stand up for our
rights just give me a stick and ill walk
the plank I have a freedom of speech.
Sex is 100% normal and everyone should be
able to do it as long as they are ready
for it.
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Posted: 08-13-06 11:28am
diamondsz
wrote:
i cant wait to see them take
away the
funding
why? That's going to be horrible; it'll
be harder than ever for women to ger the
care they need, especially young women!
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Posted: 08-15-06 00:57am
cambion
wrote:
a letter written by some
pro-life fundie catholic zealot claimed
that birth control promotes promiscuity
and that it's wrong to dispense
contraception to teens for that very
reason. This man also went on to mention
how teen pregnancies have gone up over 600
percent in the past 40 years, and how
there was a highly noticeable increase in
sexually transmitted diseases and teen
suicides.
teen pregnancy, like all
pregnancy, has decreased continually until
it plateaud (sp?) around 2002/2003. In
fact, the us experienced it's highest teen
pregnancy rate in 1957. You know, when
there was absolutely .N.O sex ed, no birth
control, and very little access to
condoms.
The claim about std's is wrong as well.
There are a lot more people in the world
now than there were 40 years ago. In
fact, almost three generations have
reached sexual maturation within that time
period. Some sti's have increased but in
all fairness, many sti's roots and causes
were not discovered until quite recently.
All sti's have seen a decline in the
numbers of new infections than 40 years
ago and it is precisely because condoms
are more easily accessible and
comprehensive sex education is more
available.
And, finally, sex is not the cause of teen
suicide. There are many different
factors present and other factors are more
important indicators of the threat of
suicide.
Quote:
what the fool
doesn't realize is that teens are no
longer being educated about sex or
protection, which is why there is an
increase in such things as teen pregnancy
and stds. So how does he propose that
refusing to give teen birth control will
fix the problem of teen
pregnancies?
people are nostalgic for
a time in our history that was displayed
as being more simple and pure. What they
don't realize is that that time never
actually existed. Everyone, no matter
what they believe, should read the way we
never were. The author describes, in
great detail, what it was actually like in
the 1950's and it isn't the pie-in-the-sky
image that the media represented. Lack
of sex education and refusing teens access
to birth control will increase
the numbers of young women becomming
pregnant. Since "abstinence-only"
policies have been adopted by many states,
those states are beginning to experience
an .I.N.C.R.E.A.S.E in teen pregnancy.
keeping
people ignorant and then taking away the
tools that they can use to keep themselves
safe has never stopped them from
having sex. Just ask the millions of
young women who gave birth in
1957.
Quote:
forcing women to
give birth will just put even more
unwanted children in the foster system, or
force children into homes where they are
not wanted.
or result in the deaths
of hundreds of thousands of women who
resort to a home, illegal, and unsafe
abortion.
Quote:
I would almost
guarantee that, if either abortion is
banned nationwide or funding for clinics
is cut, there will be a significant
increase in the number of cases of child
neglect, abuse, and
homicide.
there was a study out
two years ago (i think but could be
mistaken) that made the correlation
between roe v. Wade and the drastic
decreases in crime that we began
experiencing in the late 1980's and early
1990's in nearly every major city in the
us. The authors of the study theorized
that, since roe in 1973, the women who
would have most likely produced criminals
sought a legal abortion instead and thus,
crime decreased when the number of
criminals decreased. Criminal behavior
is most likely to occur among young people
who are poor, unemployed, have low levels
of education, and report feelings of
hopelessness. Like I said though, the
study found only a correllation and not a
cause but it was very controversial when
it was released.
Quote:
apparently that
is what pro-lifers really want...To see
women suffer through unwanted pregnancy,
deliver an unwanted child, then hope the
woman is put in prison for abusing or
killing her child so she can suffer even
more.
don't get into
stereotyping. From my experience with a
few "prolifers", I have found that they
want an ideal that has never been a
reality. They feel that if the
government just takes away a few civil
liberties, then eventually the reality
will start conforming to the ideal.
However, there is no evidence that reality
has ever or will
ever fit in with the ideal, even if
you try and force people to confrom to it.
Part of this ideal does seem to include
women who are more subservient and who
stay at home whether they want to or not.
However, in the way we never were, survey
results were listed from the 50's that
found that a majority of the women were
.N.O.T happy in only that capacity. But,
women don't really know what's best so
that's why we need a group of unrealistic
ideologues to tell us what to do! Just
kidding.
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Re: Cutting Back On Planned Parenthood Funding Posted: 08-15-06 07:43am
cambion
wrote:
a letter written by some pro-life fundie
catholic zealot claimed that birth control
promotes promiscuity and that it's wrong
to dispense contraception to teens for
that very
reason..
i can't believe that people actually think
that removing the access to contraception
is going to stop/cut down the number of
unplanned pregnancies and abortions.
