I'm at about week 2.5 on diet version 6.
I've dropped 9 pounds and feel good the
majority of the time.
Berries have consistently caused me
headaches and decreased energy. The only
days I have with no headache are the days
I do not eat berries. I have tried
strawberries, blueberries, raspberries and
my favorite blackberries. Even one berry
after each of my first 5 meals of the day
causes me to have a headache.
I respect the improtance of fruit and love
eating it.
Is there any reason to not eat the fruit
after my last meal so I can hopefully
sleep through the headache?
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Posted: 06-13-06 14:41pm
You shouldn't have any fruit for your last
meal. Don't I say that in there? I
hope I do. That much trouble with
berries eh? Your system must be as
sensitive as mine was. Try this perhaps.
Try to eat only a few berries the entire
day. Perhaps try to eat one berry every
other meal. If that is two much perhaps
try that approach every other day. It is
strange you are having the same reaction I
used to. I notice that only in the
morning I seem sensitive to sugar and
usually after breakfast i'll get a bit odd
for a few minutes or so. I can actually
feel the sugar doing something when it
goes into my stomach, it's weird. I hope
this isn't a problem with the diet, I need
to research this, you're the only other
person I know that's had this problem too.
It could be that you just haven't
adjusted yet though. 2.5 weeks is a
decent amount of time, but I wouldn't
worry about the berry thing unless it was
for like two months. Then it's time to
figure it out.
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Didier
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Posted: 06-13-06 16:53pm
Hello
this is in reponse to mendigoodwins
headaches. Stan, I understand that this
forum is dedicated to helping those with
hypoglycemia but it seems to me that we
have to be careful to not attribute every
symptom to hypoglycemia and we have to be
careful to not jump to conclusions about
the diet. When I read that email it
seemed obvious that you were suffering a
simple food allergy that has nothing to do
with hypoglycemia. It seems highly
improbable to me that eating one berry
would cause a hypoglycemic reaction.
Allergic reaction yes. Hypoglycemic
reaction, no. I can understand if you
were eating a whole bowl of them at a time
and eating just that with no fats or
proteins to slow down the absorption.
But then again...I am not a doctor so I
decided to do a quick search and here is
what I came up with
sounds to me that all you need to do is
cut out the offending food. My ex
sister-in-law was allergic to
strawberries
hope this helps
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Posted: 06-13-06 21:17pm
True, but all four types of berries? The
chances would be pretty remote. Still,
it is best to try all options to make
sure. But here's the thing i've found
with my experience. You mentioned food
allergies. Look at it that way. If you
notice on some packages of foods, it will
say something like "this product
manufactured in a facility that uses
peanuts" or whatever. Why does that
matter? Because with someone who has an
allergy to peanuts, even the most minor,
miniscule little particle of that peanut
will set off a chain reaction. I myself
believe the same thing exists in the
hypoglycemic in response to sugar from
fruits and such. I've had it happen
myself with only an extra berry or so
earlier in treatment, and I tested it
several times to check.
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mendigoodwin
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Posted: 06-14-06 07:03am
Hi all,
thanks for all of the feedback. I
actually had started to wonder about a
food allergy because on the day I finally
decided for sure it was the berries (after
several test days) I ended up having to
take a claritin to get rid of the headache
(after ibuprofen did not help). I've
been considering the 1/2 slice of orange
option. I have eatens berries - all
kinds- most of my life and never ever
noticed a reaction before.
Thanks again for being here!
Any one growing their own veggies? Any
good websites for ordering organic seeds?
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Posted: 06-14-06 09:07am
Yeah, try a bit of orange, maybe even 1/3
a slice. You could try 1/3 a slice of an
apple too.
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mendigoodwin
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Posted: 06-14-06 11:13am
Hey stan,
you definitely make it clear not to have
berries with the final meal. I have only
been having them with the other meals.
I was just thinking that since berries
were causing me problems I could have the
berries before bed and not the rest of the
day and sleep through the symptoms.
I'm definitely going to try the 1/3-1/2
slice of orange.
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Posted: 06-14-06 17:19pm
Ahhh, I see what you mean. Yes, it could
be the case that if you were to eat the
berries later you might not have a problem
with them. Why not try that first and
see what happens. I suggest trying the
second to the last meal to see what
happens. That way you won't follow it
with fruit and will be going to bed soon
after the final meal. You may just still
be overly sensitive.
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LanTurner
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Allergies Posted: 06-23-06 22:13pm
I have some issues with berries, too. Do
you also have any pepper allegies? I
find that often peppers and vine fruits
are related that way so if you have a
reaction to one, you can have it to
another too.
I found out how bad my allergy was the
hard way:
a had an extremely close call last year
with an undiagnosed capsicum allergy.
I was at a diner with some friends after a
night of drinking. My girlfriend and
some other people we knew had vanished
without a trace a few hours prior. We had
been fighting and I was feeling bad,
wondering if I should continue to search
for her or just phone her later.
Confused and angry, I just kept
drinking.
Some people we were with suggested we all
go out for midnight breakfast. I was
glad they decided to include me. To make
matters worse, I had the ringer was broken
on my cell phone so even if my girlfriend
wanted to call my number, she couldn’t
phone me.
So half drunk and all the way upset, I
ordered a big breakfast that turned out to
be really bland. Without thinking I
doused my eggs and potatoes with tabasco
sauce (something I never do). I was
halfway through the meal when my friends
all lookup and say the wish I could
reverse that course of action, aware that
I can’t really handle contact with hot
sauce.
About a minute later as I try to click the
number to my girlfriend’s cell phone
into my phone, the voice in my head
calling me an fool suddenly became clear.
Eating that sauce was not a good call.
I tried to get the waitress’s attention
to bring me some water, but she was busy
loudly searching for the address and phone
number of the corporate office.
Things started get blurry and I was
breathing heavy and sweating. People
around you need to have information on
your situation—those around me did not.
After the incident I decided to lookup
information on my condition and print some
pages of info out and keep them in my
car.
I started feeling worse and worse and
began to feel concerned about my labored
breathing. When I put the car in reverse
and lookup at the mirror, everything was
pretty fuzzy. I search for a place to
focus on and eventually find one. My
friends convince me that I shouldn’t
drive and they take me to the pharmacy.
As we enter the business, I start to feel
like i’m caught in a web. The
pharmacist explained that there was
nothing they could give me without a
prescription. I knew I had to have some
medication fast and I didn’t want to
give my information at the emergency room
and wait there for three hours, gasping
for breath.
My doctor had written his cell phone
number on one of his cards, but he
didn’t answer the phone. We searched
for a business phone number that might
forward to him, or an address, but could
find nothing. People were starting to
enter the store and lookup at my
breathing. They were frightened at the
site of me. Things were getting worse.
Finally I called my sister, a researcher
who can search business phone information.
She ordered a reverse lookup on the doctor’s
cell phone number. The lookup search
obtained his address. My friend helped
me enter the car and we drove to the
address the search provided. My doctor
called the business phone of the pharmacy
and gave them my prescription information.
He even escorted us back to the drug
store to make sure they were able to
lookup the right medicine.
I don’t know what would have happened if
I hadn’t been able to reach my doctor,
but it wouldn’t have been good.
Knowing about your allergies ahead of time
can save your life. Apparently so can a
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Posted: 06-24-06 08:13am
Pretty rough right there. That's
interesting, so you're saying there may be
a connection between vine-grown vegetables
and fruits? Do you have any idea why?
I could see this, so I am curious.
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mendigoodwin
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Posted: 06-25-06 09:16am
Hello everyone and thanks for all of the
comments!
I've been thinking of the stuff growing on
a vine - i'm not so sure it pertains to
me. Squash and zucchini grow on vines
and they don't bother me at all. Maybe it
is just the fruits that grow on vines, but
oranges grow on trees. Vine and tree
fruits are the problem.
Well I decided to try the 1/3 of an orange
segment and found the same headache on the
second day. I am now going to go for a
small bit of orange with my next to the
last meal as stan previously suggested.
My blood sugar is staying between 60 and
81. Nothing in the diet is bringing my
blood sugar up to even 90, so I can't
possibly keep it there. Following the
diet w/o the fruit is keeping me from
dropping into the low 50's though and I
generally feel better and have less of a
problem with mood swings.
What else could I try other than fruit to
bring my blood sugar up so that I can try
to maintain it there with frequent small
meals? I feel pretty good with it in the
upper 70's, but I think I would feel
better if I could get it in the 80's and
keep it there. I have the olive oil,
nut, protein, veg, lettuce sequence down
pat. The brewer's yeast, fish oil,
calcium, and occasional iron are a regular
part of the routine as well.
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Posted: 06-25-06 10:16am
Man, you must be uber sensitive to fruit.
Well, this happens sometimes i've heard.
It may be that you just need to adjust to
it. I forget, but what's the longest
you've tried staying with the fruit
regardless of how you feel? Have you
given it at least two weeks? Maybe you
should start with a bit of avocado then,
it suppresses insulin production so you'll
get the sugar out of it but not the drop.
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mendigoodwin
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Posted: 06-30-06 20:00pm
Thanks for the tip about the extra
avocado. I will certainly add a bite of
avocado to the end of the meal.
I have not tried sticking with the fruit
despite the headache. I may give that a
try, or I may just go for the avocado.
Avocado's here generally run $1.99 a
piece! I was in atlanta, ga a couple of
weeks ago and they were only $0.79 a
piece. It is hard to find organic
avocado's so they are huge. I only eat a
1/4 of one with breakfast.
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Posted: 06-30-06 20:30pm
Yeah, they are expensive. But they're
sooooo good for hypoglycemics, so I
suggest them. Organic is not necessary
since you're not eating the outer skin.
