I am a high school student and after
playing a game of baseball as a unit in
phys ed I felt a sharp pain in my back.
This was not several days later that I
felt the pain but as soon as the game was
over it just hit me. The pain became so
severe that when I went to the locker room
and got changed I was stuck there for
about 5 minutes not being able to stand up
or even sit down (i was supporting myself
with my hands). Eventually I got home and
my father knowing quite a bit about
anatomy told me it was a problem with my
spinal disk. He told me to lie on the
ground and he twisted my arm (not randomly
- he knew what he was doning) and after I
heard a stap. The back pain was instantly
gone. The problem was that the back pain
came back about an hour later and every
time he would fix it again by doing the
same procedure it would come back later
that day. I hurt my back on a friday so I
could not see my family doctor until
monday and I didn't want to sit in
emergency for 5 hours so I waited until
monday and as soon as my family doctor was
open at 9am I was at the door. The
problem with that was that I had no
apointment so my doctor was in a hurry to
diagnose me - telling me it was just
muscle pain, but i'm not so sure.
Does this sound like it could be something
wrong with a spinal disk or does it sound
more like muscle pain?
Thanks
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rustybedspring
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You Should Get a Mri Posted: 06-09-06 16:59pm
What other pains are you having? Is it
all in just the lower back? Or do you
have any pain in the legs? Does it hurt
to walk, stand, sit, etc.
Your back isn't something to mess around
with. If you have troubles get them
checked out now before it becomes worse.
I recomend spending the next week taking
notes of what brings on the pain? Where
does it hurt? What relieves the pain?
(i.E. Sitting bent forward, lying down
etc.)
once you have collected some info. Then
go back to the doctor. If he tries to
blow you off show him your notes and
demand you get an mri.
You should also research you symptoms as
well. Because the more you know the
better off you'll be. Back pain can go
from being acute to chronic in three
months. So be aware of that and make
sure you can at least figure out what's
wrong now.
I hope this helps!
Rick
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Tamadrummer
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Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 710 Location: Zephyrhills,Fl
Posted: 06-09-06 17:41pm
There is no way to know exactly what is
going on with your back until some
diagnostic radiology is done. It does not
necessarily have to be an mri although
that would be the best tool.
When you go to get these tests done, you
need to make sure to go to a place that
specifically deals with children and
adolescents (sp) because they are
accustomed to seeing people of your age
bracket with little or no bone
degredation.
If you have a bad intervetebral disk, your
dad is not going to be able to fix it with
manipulation of the spine. It may not be
bad enough to even be worried about and
the doc may refer you to physical therapy
just to be sure but at your age it would
be rare for a disk to have "slipped" and
it is not likly that you have bad
vertabrae either. Anything is possible
though so it is a really good idea to have
your primary care doc refer you for some
kind of radiology.
Good luck,
brian
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rustybedspring
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Age Doesn't Matter. Posted: 06-10-06 11:01am
I'm thirty and I have degenerative lumbar
spinal stenosis. Something that isn't
supposed to happen till you hit 50ish.
That being said I hope you find some
anwers to your problems.
Do keep a diary and show your doctor!
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IMShirl
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Posted: 06-11-06 08:01am
I wanted to post some information on ddd
from a few doctor's. The age is no longer
in the 50's.;)
disc degeneration is a natural consequence
of aging. It is seen radiographically in
about one out of five people in their
twenties and in 100% of people by their
sixties.
Degenerative disc disease is the process
of mechanical wear and tear on the disc
itself. This is noted in most adults
after about 30 years of age.
disc degeneration is a natural consequence
of aging. It is seen radiographically in
about one out of five people in their
twenties and in 100% of people by their
sixties.
Degenerative disc disease is the process
of mechanical wear and tear on the disc
itself. This is noted in most adults
after about 30 years of age.
it is natural only when you have lordosis
and scoliosis. Then they wear because
they don't work normally.
When your pelvis is misaligned it causes
that problem. It is common, because about
80% of people have problems in pelvis
alignment. That is because of joint
subluxations, mainly sij... Some have
that problem since child and they get
problems at young age.
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IMShirl
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Posted: 06-13-06 07:22am
expatient
wrote:
it is natural only when you
have lordosis and
scoliosis.
I do not I agree with this part of the
post.
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Tamadrummer
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Posted: 06-13-06 07:23am
imshirl
wrote:
expatient
wrote:
it is natural only when you
have lordosis and
scoliosis.
I do not I agree with this part of the
post.
me either, I just did not want to tip over
the apple cart again. :)
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expatient
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Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Finland
Posted: 06-13-06 13:48pm
Show me one pelvis x-ray from a patient
who has disc/vertebra degeneration but not
pelvis misalignment... I know it is lot
to ask, but next time when you have a
chance, just check how his/her pelvis
looks like.... How can I link a picture
here?
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IMShirl
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I Am Confused Expatient..... Posted: 06-13-06 19:36pm
Expatient ~
first off where did you get that the
original poster has pelvic issues????? I
read a this person has a disc problem.
Maybe I am taking what you are posting
wrong in that I am thinking you are saying
that it is only ...It is natural only
when you have lordosis and scoliosis.
Then they wear because they don't work
normally.
What I am saying is that lordosis and
scoliosis is not the only way ddd is
natural in occurring. Ddd can occur from
age (even at the younger ages) from bad
posture, wear and tear, and over use among
other things.
Secondly I am not a doctor or a pa and
even if I was I wouldn't show you an x-ray
of a patient. I do know I have several
disc problems at several levels and I do
not have issues with pelvic
misalignment.
What are you talking about with this
statement?????
"i know it is lot to ask, but next time
when you have a chance, just check how
his/her pelvis looks like.... "
to post a picture you can try [img]
replace with the url here [/img].
You use the name of expatient.... Are you
a expatient or a doctor/surgeon?
I am not really sure where you are going
with your posts?
Imshirl :?:
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expatient
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Re: I Am Confused Expatient..... Posted: 06-14-06 01:10am
imshirl
wrote:
expatient ~
first off where did you get that the
original poster has pelvic issues????? I
read a this person has a disc problem.
i replyed to that degeneration is not
natural...
imshirl
wrote:
it is natural only when you
have lordosis and scoliosis. Then they
wear because they don't work normally.
yes, but scoliosis and lordosis are not
natural. They are symptoms of misaligned
and twisted pelvis.
imshirl
wrote:
what I am saying is that
lordosis and scoliosis is not the only
way ddd is natural in occurring.
Ddd can occur from age (even at the
younger ages) from bad posture, wear and
tear, and over use among other
things.
twisted pelvis causes bad posture and
scoliosis. They cause that tear and wear
and many others. I had bad posture. Not
any more...
(i wonder if that works. The forum
replaces all characters after a dot with
capital letter... So it changes
image[dot]jpg to image[dot]jpg and that is
wrong)
imshirl
wrote:
and I do not have issues
with pelvic
misalignment.
i saw over 20 of them. They said to get a
heel lift, but that lli is not the cause
of my pains... They found prolapsy, disc
degeneration, small disk herniations,...
Some of them blamed those, some said they
are too small to cause pais...
Then finally I met one pt who corrected my
pelvis manually. At once I got better
posture, my legs got strength, no more
headackes,... Since that I have bee
studying this pelvic thing and
communicating with other patients, certain
doctors and many others who understand
about the importance of pelvis!
