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Q: Back Pain Question

asked by: Terminator14 on June 6th, 2006

New User

Hi.

I am a high school student and after playing a game of baseball as a unit in phys ed I felt a sharp pain in my back. This was not several days later that I felt the pain but as soon as the game was over it just hit me. The pain became so severe that when I went to the locker room and got changed I was stuck there for about 5 minutes not being able to stand up or even sit down (i was supporting myself with my hands). Eventually I got home and my father knowing quite a bit about anatomy told me it was a problem with my spinal disk. He told me to lie on the ground and he twisted my arm (not randomly - he knew what he was doning) and after I heard a stap. The back pain was instantly gone. The problem was that the back pain came back about an hour later and every time he would fix it again by doing the same procedure it would come back later that day. I hurt my back on a friday so I could not see my family doctor until monday and I didn't want to sit in emergency for 5 hours so I waited until monday and as soon as my family doctor was open at 9am I was at the door. The problem with that was that I had no apointment so my doctor was in a hurry to diagnose me - telling me it was just muscle pain, but i'm not so sure.

Does this sound like it could be something wrong with a spinal disk or does it sound more like muscle pain?

Thanks

Replies(10)

rustybedspring

replied on June 9th, 2006

New User

You Should Get a Mri

What other pains are you having? Is it all in just the lower back? Or do you have any pain in the legs? Does it hurt to walk, stand, sit, etc.

Your back isn't something to mess around with. If you have troubles get them checked out now before it becomes worse. I recomend spending the next week taking notes of what brings on the pain? Where does it hurt? What relieves the pain? (i.E. Sitting bent forward, lying down etc.)

once you have collected some info. Then go back to the doctor. If he tries to blow you off show him your notes and demand you get an mri.

You should also research you symptoms as well. Because the more you know the better off you'll be. Back pain can go from being acute to chronic in three months. So be aware of that and make sure you can at least figure out what's wrong now.

I hope this helps!
Rick

Tamadrummer

replied on June 9th, 2006

Active User, very eHealthy

There is no way to know exactly what is going on with your back until some diagnostic radiology is done. It does not necessarily have to be an mri although that would be the best tool.

When you go to get these tests done, you need to make sure to go to a place that specifically deals with children and adolescents (sp) because they are accustomed to seeing people of your age bracket with little or no bone degredation.

If you have a bad intervetebral disk, your dad is not going to be able to fix it with manipulation of the spine. It may not be bad enough to even be worried about and the doc may refer you to physical therapy just to be sure but at your age it would be rare for a disk to have "slipped" and it is not likly that you have bad vertabrae either. Anything is possible though so it is a really good idea to have your primary care doc refer you for some kind of radiology.

Good luck,
brian

rustybedspring

replied on June 10th, 2006

New User

Age Doesn't Matter.

I'm thirty and I have degenerative lumbar spinal stenosis. Something that isn't supposed to happen till you hit 50ish. That being said I hope you find some anwers to your problems.

Do keep a diary and show your doctor!

IMShirl

replied on June 11th, 2006

Experienced User

I wanted to post some information on ddd from a few doctor's. The age is no longer in the 50's.;)

disc degeneration is a natural consequence of aging. It is seen radiographically in about one out of five people in their twenties and in 100% of people by their sixties.

Degenerative disc disease is the process of mechanical wear and tear on the disc itself. This is noted in most adults after about 30 years of age.

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expatient

replied on June 13th, 2006

Experienced User

imshirl wrote:

disc degeneration is a natural consequence of aging. It is seen radiographically in about one out of five people in their twenties and in 100% of people by their sixties.

Degenerative disc disease is the process of mechanical wear and tear on the disc itself. This is noted in most adults after about 30 years of age.

it is natural only when you have lordosis and scoliosis. Then they wear because they don't work normally.

When your pelvis is misaligned it causes that problem. It is common, because about 80% of people have problems in pelvis alignment. That is because of joint subluxations, mainly sij... Some have that problem since child and they get problems at young age.

IMShirl

replied on June 13th, 2006

Experienced User

expatient wrote:

it is natural only when you have lordosis and scoliosis.

I do not I agree with this part of the post.

Tamadrummer

replied on June 13th, 2006

Active User, very eHealthy

imshirl wrote:

expatient wrote:

it is natural only when you have lordosis and scoliosis.

I do not I agree with this part of the post.

me either, I just did not want to tip over the apple cart again. :)

expatient

replied on June 13th, 2006

Experienced User

Show me one pelvis x-ray from a patient who has disc/vertebra degeneration but not pelvis misalignment... I know it is lot to ask, but next time when you have a chance, just check how his/her pelvis looks like.... How can I link a picture here?

IMShirl

replied on June 13th, 2006

Experienced User

I Am Confused Expatient.....

Expatient ~

first off where did you get that the original poster has pelvic issues????? I read a this person has a disc problem. Maybe I am taking what you are posting wrong in that I am thinking you are saying that it is only ...It is natural only when you have lordosis and scoliosis. Then they wear because they don't work normally.

What I am saying is that lordosis and scoliosis is not the only way ddd is natural in occurring. Ddd can occur from age (even at the younger ages) from bad posture, wear and tear, and over use among other things.

Secondly I am not a doctor or a pa and even if I was I wouldn't show you an x-ray of a patient. I do know I have several disc problems at several levels and I do not have issues with pelvic misalignment.

What are you talking about with this statement?????
"i know it is lot to ask, but next time when you have a chance, just check how his/her pelvis looks like.... "

to post a picture you can try [img] replace with the url here [/img].

You use the name of expatient.... Are you a expatient or a doctor/surgeon?

I am not really sure where you are going with your posts?

Imshirl :?:

expatient

replied on June 14th, 2006

Experienced User

Re: I Am Confused Expatient.....

imshirl wrote:

expatient ~

first off where did you get that the original poster has pelvic issues????? I read a this person has a disc problem.

i replyed to that degeneration is not natural...

imshirl wrote:

it is natural only when you have lordosis and scoliosis. Then they wear because they don't work normally.

yes, but scoliosis and lordosis are not natural. They are symptoms of misaligned and twisted pelvis.

imshirl wrote:

what I am saying is that lordosis and scoliosis is not the only way ddd is natural in occurring. Ddd can occur from age (even at the younger ages) from bad posture, wear and tear, and over use among other things.

twisted pelvis causes bad posture and scoliosis. They cause that tear and wear and many others. I had bad posture. Not any more...

imshirl wrote:

and I do not have issues with pelvic misalignment.

i am a patient who suffered short left leg over 25 years. Last 15 years with bad pains, leg weaknes, headackes, tos and a lot of others. All my doctors said it's normal to have lli. They didn't find anything wrong from my pelvis even if my pelvis looked like that in picture!!

i saw over 20 of them. They said to get a heel lift, but that lli is not the cause of my pains... They found prolapsy, disc degeneration, small disk herniations,... Some of them blamed those, some said they are too small to cause pais...

Then finally I met one pt who corrected my pelvis manually. At once I got better posture, my legs got strength, no more headackes,... Since that I have bee studying this pelvic thing and communicating with other patients, certain doctors and many others who understand about the importance of pelvis!

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