My dear,

i have a great history with addicts and alcoholics. Unfortunately I must tell you that there is no way to make someone want to get well. Thousands of dollars have been spent on people I know, because their families sent them to rehab.. All they are is a sober addict.. Waiting for their next moment with the drug.

Enabling the addict prolongs the amount of time it will take to hit his/her bottom.

That is when he and she decide to get sober: when the amount of uncomfortability is just too much. Until then, they feel like they have more "research" to do.

There is no need to bail him out of jail.. That is a safe place for him.. Also if he needs money, just buy him the thing he needs.. Any cash is going straight to the dope man.. I urge you all to go to an al-anon meeting.. Most cities have them. They are support for families of an addict or alcoholic (same thing). They are so helpful, and I have gone before. You will see, you do not have to re-invent the wheel in order to learn how to deal with certain situations.
Good luck.. Let me know what you decide to do, if anything..

Wait till you are sure he has the smack and turn him into the fuzz. He might go to jail but you might be able to coerce the judge into sending him to rehab. And from the sounds of it jail might no be too bad for him. And if you really want him to stop being addicted now break his back at the base of the spine. He will be instantly unaddicted.

???? Break his back? Please tell me ur kidding.

Jokes or not, a broken back has been the beginning point for so many addicts.. They get pain patches, pills, endless amounts of powerful narcotics.. How silly

also, if you decide to call the cops when you are sure he has dope, he will figure out who told, or at least have a good guess.. I wouldn't recommend it!

The benefits of rehab for someone who hasn't hit bottom yet are, I would guess (i was never forced to go to rehab, I just went once by my own decision, but I know a lot of people who were forced to), are that the seed of idea to get sober, the principles of aa (where most addicts end up for support), they are all started.. Just the idea, even if the person goes right back to using. Although, I have heard of people being sent to rehab 10, 20, 30, 40 times.

How old is he?

My experience of getting sober was to go to an out-of-state rehab center, for 6 weeks (my decision), and then took their suggestion - (doing it my way never worked before!) - I went to a sober house, in a city called new haven, connecticut.. It is a city overflowing with young people getting sober.. There are so many meetings.. So many young people.. It is hard for young people to get sober sometimes when "everyone else" is drinking, smoking, using, etc.

See what you can find online in ways of al-anon material.. Become familiar with the 12 steps and traditions.. (same material more or less for aa or al-anon) .. Try to find an al-anon message board.. I guarantee there are people who have gone through the same things..

Good luck

Thanks for the comments and support... It was reassuring to see that people have to gone in and out of rehab before becoming sober.
Calling the police was my first instinct but my fmaily made it clear that if I did I would be the "bad guy'.
I am no strnager to addiction unfortunelty... My father has 15 years clean my mother is an alcoholic and now my brother... I seem to be the only one not using. But I am very familiar with aa and alanon. My problem is they dont seem to be working. My brother has been sober before but it seems to get worst with every relapse. And like I said before I really dont know what could be his rock bottom outside of death.

We were thinking about out of state rehab being the best bet but they wont take him... Actually no rehab will take him because he has been detoxed 2x already.

Beinging to feel desperate.

i'm so sorry to hear that your family is going through this terrible ordeal. I know it's very stressful for you and parents to sit back and watch your brother self destruct like this. Unfortunately, if you do happen to find a involuntary rehab clinic, that's still not going to be the answer to your brother's problem by any means. If anything, it may make him do the exact opposite once he finally gets released from the clinic. Noone is going to get off of drugs unless they really want to get off the drugs. Not because mom and dad wants him too or you his sister. Not even his own wife and children (if he has any). This is a very strong drug that grabs a hold to the person and it won't let go unless that person is dedicated to making it stay away forever. It doesn't sound like your brother is ready to take it that far right now. From what i've learned and heard from other "users", the methadone clinic's are the best type of help that is currently out there for heroin addicts and/or people addicted to pain pills. Methadone has a very high success rate and it does work. It stops the withdrawals, which is why so many people go right back to using again........Because they can't stand the withdrawals or the drug when they are off of it. But, the methadone takes care of all of that and makes the person feel like their old self again. It sounds like your brother isn't ready to get off of the drug at this time. It sounds like he is still enjoying the act of doing the drug, verses other people that just want to get off of it, but can't without help. Those people will benefit from the methadone, but if the person doesn't want to stop the act of doing drugs, then they are not going to get any better and they are not going to take the methadone seriously. When a patient is on methadone, then if they do any heroin or take any pain pills, it's just all a waste of time and money, because the methadone blocks the effects that the drugs offer to the addict. They can not feel any of the euphoric feelings that they like so much when they take the drugs. That's why they do the drugs to feel "good" off of them. The methadone prevents that from happening. Once on the methadone program for awhile, the patient starts to forget how that euphoric feeling feels and they start enjoying feeling like their "old self" again. It's not going to happen over night. It does take time to get your mental state where it needs to be. The physical craving and addiction is only 50% of the problem. The other 50% is the mental cravings and addiction the patient goes through, which is sometimes more powerful than the physical cravings. It just takes time and a lot of support from the patients family and friends. It's important that the person stays busy as much as possible while on the methadone program. Free time is the last thing a person in this situation needs. The more time they are not thinking about the drug, the better they are getting on the program. If he starts the methadone program again and stays on it and sticks to it religiously he will over come his addiction. That is only if he wants to do it for himself! Until then, there's nothing anyone can do to help him. Many people also need the support groups which are offered at the methadone clinics. Sometimes it helps to talk and be around others that are in the same situation that you are in. Then again, there are some people that can't talk about it with anyone. Usually men feel this way. For some reason they think they don't need any help and they won't ask or accept it from anyone. Regardless, he can over come this addiction with a lot of commitment on his part. I don't know if ya'll are religious people or not, but if so prayer helps a lot. Ask god to help your brother see the way and ask him to help him gain the courage to get help and stick to it this time. Good luck to you, your family and of course your brother. I hope he makes it out of the rut that he's currently in. He can make it, but he has to want to do it for himself first.