Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 23 Location: new jersey
Serious Back Pain-i've Been Scammed By the Drx-9000 Machine Posted: 05-23-06 13:06pm
I have l3-4, l5-s1 bulges and a large l4-5
herniation w/ severe stenosis stemming
from a car accident. I got talked into
this traction machine drx-9000 and it
seemed to get rid of the back pain and the
numbness in right foot. After finishing
the 25 sessions they gave me an mri slip
that would supposedly show a greater than
50% resolution in herniation. My
insurance wouldn't cover a 2nd mri so the
Dr. Told me to lift weights, run, and do
whatever. I never had radiating leg pain
either.
I have been weight training for 2 weeks
and lower back pain is coming back
steadily. There is no numbness in my
right foot/toes and my legs feel light-not
heavy like b/f.
Do I just ignore the pain and keep on
lifting since there's no numbness?
Should I consult w/ a spine surgeon?
Should I consult w/ a neurosurgeon? I
need help!
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norman12
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Posted: 05-23-06 14:39pm
Bump for answers
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sandyallen
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Posted: 05-23-06 15:08pm
I am not a dr but I would talk to your
neurosurgeon about the situation.
Good lick!
Keep us posted.
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norman12
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Posted: 05-24-06 00:14am
Thanx sandyallen, I will meet w/ my neuro
june 20 so i'll know more then. I guess
that having back pain while lifting is a
bad sign.
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Tamadrummer
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Posted: 05-24-06 06:18am
It is not necessarly a bad sign. What you
might want to do for the interem is to
only lift weights on the machine not free
weights and also back down your work out
to a point that you are not in too much
pain.
After a few weeks of that work out, step
it up very slowly, if you have true back
problems, nothing will stop them but you
can build up your tolerance to pain
stimulation by moving very slowly as far
as the intensity of your work out.
It is always a good idea to go to an
orthopedic or neuro doc when dealing with
back pain, don't be surprised if your
herniations are not any different than
they were in the first mri, that is the
way it goes. Having a herniation does not
mean that you cannot work out. If you are
not experiencing any pain or minimal pain
then you are ok. The spinal cord normally
ends at l1/l2 or maybe l2/l3 and since
your injuries are below those levels, you
cannot hirt your spinal cord and so you
should be ok.
Remember, l4/l5 is where the siatic nerve
roots are and so if there are major/minor
herneations pressing on the nerve roots,
there is a good chance you are going to
experience problems otherwise if your
bulges are away from the nerve tissue and
if your pain is muscle spasm related vs.
Spinal pain you are likly to be refered
back to pt and told to keep up the
workouts so that you can build up your
back strength.
Good luck,
brian
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norman12
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Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 23 Location: new jersey
Posted: 05-24-06 11:17am
tamadrummer
wrote:
it is not necessarly a bad
sign. What you might want to do for the
interem is to only lift weights on the
machine not free weights and also back
down your work out to a point that you are
not in too much pain.
After a few weeks of that work out, step
it up very slowly, if you have true back
problems, nothing will stop them but you
can build up your tolerance to pain
stimulation by moving very slowly as far
as the intensity of your work out.
It is always a good idea to go to an
orthopedic or neuro doc when dealing with
back pain, don't be surprised if your
herniations are not any different than
they were in the first mri, that is the
way it goes. Having a herniation does
not mean that you cannot work out. If
you are not experiencing any pain or
minimal pain then you are ok. The spinal
cord normally ends at l1/l2 or maybe l2/l3
and since your injuries are below those
levels, you cannot hirt your spinal cord
and so you should be ok.
Remember, l4/l5 is where the siatic nerve
roots are and so if there are major/minor
herneations pressing on the nerve roots,
there is a good chance you are going to
experience problems otherwise if your
bulges are away from the nerve tissue and
if your pain is muscle spasm related vs.
Spinal pain you are likly to be refered
back to pt and told to keep up the
workouts so that you can build up your
back strength.
Good luck,
brian
just to backtrack a
little as I was very frustrated when I
posted this thread. When I started on
this drx-9000, I had bad back pain,
numbness in right shin and right toes, and
others noted that my feet barely left the
ground when walking.
Now after treatment of drx-9000 (best
traction-like machine out), 25 treatments,
no more pain, no numbness in shin or toes,
(never had radiating leg or glute pain)
and legs feel incredibly light. So I
waited 2 months extra for healing time b/f
training again. Now today the pain is
reduced. The changes I made: just light
weights, cut out cardio machines like
elliptical, tradmill, and arc-trainer (a
trainer told me they were high impact b/c
of constant movement) and I cut my sleep
med down as I was sleeping for 10
hrs-don't think it was good for my back.
Today I slept for 7 hrs and back felt much
better. And my doc inc. Celebres dose to
400mg ed.
Thanx for the feedback peeps,
norman
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IMShirl
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Hi Norman Posted: 05-24-06 12:08pm
Hi norman ~
I did reply to your post on spine and
beyond. ;)
imshirl :d
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IMShirl
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Hey Brian Posted: 05-24-06 12:12pm
Hey brian ~
your right the spinal cord normally ends
at the bottom of l2. ;)
shirl :d
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Tamadrummer
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Posted: 05-24-06 12:22pm
Thanks shirl,
norman,
i am not too sure I am following your
complaint properly. It sounds as if you
are actually better, right? How did you
get scammed?
Hopefully I am reading this wrong and you
are happy with your results because many
of us that have had surgery vs. Drx-9000
or whatever other kind of pt stuff are
pretty much disabled for good.
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sandyallen
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Posted: 05-24-06 12:56pm
I am not a Dr. I do agree with
tamdrummer in some ways, an orthopedic or
a neurologist would be a good idea as I
feel it is always good to get a second and
even sometimes a third opinion although it
is your choice. I have known of several
people that have had back surgeries and
hve gotten worse, that is why I refuse
back surgery and some people have good
luck with back surgeries, my problems are
l4-s1 I too have sciatica nerve problems
and it is heck! I have also had two neck
fusion's snd the dr wants to do another
one but I said, no thatnk you, it seems
the more surgeries you have, th more scar
tissue you have and the more arthritis you
end up with, I was told by my neck surgeon
that one surgery can lead to another, I
really don't see that much difference
between the neck and back but as I said
before, I am no Dr. I really do not see
where a second opinion would hurt! I know
what chronic pain is and I hope you do not
have to live with it the rest of your life
as I do as I have a lot of medical
situations!
I do wish you the best! Be positive!
Keep us posted, it takes time for things
to heal!
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norman12
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Posted: 05-25-06 17:12pm
Who are the moderators inthis forum. I
keep posting and they get deleted
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norman12
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Posted: 05-25-06 17:14pm
tamadrummer
wrote:
thanks shirl,
norman,
i am not too sure I am following your
complaint properly. It sounds as if you
are actually better, right? How did you
get scammed?
Hopefully I am reading this wrong and you
are happy with your results because many
of us that have had surgery vs. Drx-9000
or whatever other kind of pt stuff are
pretty much disabled for
good.
i'm actually doing poorly
right now and i'm in pain and my posts are
deleted-it keeps going back to log in even
though I am already logged in
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IMShirl
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Posted: 05-26-06 08:05am
Norman ~
I don't think there are any moderators
here. :roll:
