no sex (intercourse) is very easy. I don't understand how come people say it is hard. It is a lie. I wanted to clarify on intercourse as there is other forms of sex (oral, masturbation) that don't include intercourse which are safe and easy and you will never be pregnant from.

The importance of keeping our bodies healthy from any diesese of painful procedure is to unfortunately wear a condom, johnny, rubber whatever you want to call it.
Some people would protest in saying that it doesn't feel as good, but it doesn't feel good to have any kind of std either.
I am not for one instant saying that all women sleep around because we don't, but we really need to be careful in this day and age and be responsible for our actions.

well said it is good to see another manc on the board :d

abortions aren't exactly natural, but giving birth is actually just as damaging (if not moreso, in certain situations). Still, it can't be good to have 5 or 6 or more. Still, women do still get pregnant after that many, which is why they go on to have 7 and 8...

what's a manc? Manchester?

Edit: ah, yes... I went and looked at one of fasttricky's posts, and indeed, it was manchester. Sorry for this waste of space post! Xd

i want to say that masturbation totally doesn't count as a form of sex in any way shape or form, unless it's you touching your partner's bits and doing it for them.

As for vaginal sex; once you've had it, it is very hard not to do it again especially if you and your partner are in love; because there is nothing like it. That's just what it was for me, I can't speak for others. Dildos don't get the same feel; and while oral is excellent, there is just something special and connective about vaginal sex that can't be replaced. And if you have good protection, why not do it?

I agree that sex is good in fact it is bloody brilliant. When you are in a stable relationship it feels like the best thing in the world.
To say to a woman.. Refrain from sexual gratification until you are married ... It is never going to happen.
We can at least take all tye precautions we can top prevent anything unwanted. Even if our boyfriend is the most wonderful man on the planet, it doesn't mean he has less chance of being a carrier for any std... My friend who works in the std clinic always tells the girls/women who visit that safe sex can be good sex.

I hope everyone is happy in life and that whatever decisions in life you make, are the decisions that you are happy with. Never let anyone, but yourself make important decisions that affect your bodies. Women and their bodies are the most beautiful in the world (i am not a lesbian or homophobic or whatever!!) I think that we owe it to ourselves to protect, look after and be healthy.

I agree with you in a lot of things that you just said and I am soooo thankful that I am not single or messing aroundt this day and age and neither is my husband! In my era you would get two shots and it was gone unless you were too far gone. Nowadays anyone can have anything and as you said some things do not show up so fast and you could have a b/f, g/f s/o that was so clean about themselves and still not know that they have std's and wearing a condom is not always 100% safe as they break, now adays their are cleaner hookers then those that you meet otherwise and their are times that getting married holds no guarantees either but people will continue to have sex know matted how much you preach to them, pre-teens, teens and those older and they will continue getting pregnant and having abortions because their are too many that feel that they will not get their friend or whatever pregnant and the females will continue to say that getting pregnant will not happen to them. You know it would be great if all people thought the way that you do but this is the real world and in the real world things work differently. Don't get me wrong, I am not judging you, I am just making a statement as long as their is incest, rape abuse, neglect and everything else ssuch as not wanting children or not wanting them at that time or having a medical abortion with reasons their will be abortion and females do have a right to their choice as I said before, you are not living in their shoes, you or I should not judge them, we do not understand what they are going through as I have also said before, I would rather see an abortion than a baby born and a baby killed or an abortion do to the fact that the baby will not make it past birth because not all of its internal parts can be replaced.
The best to you!

masturbation is defined as to be sex with yourself. You achieve orgasm same as with vaginal sex. Eiri think of masturbating with a 9 inch dildo, I don't think any woman doing that is much of a virgin hehe. And there is masturbation as to givin it to your partner which also result in orgasm. Same as oral sex. As long as it result in orgasm it is considered sex.





right but the problem we are having eiri is that the teens are not using good protection and therefore we have the spread of std's and unwanted pregnancies. It takes dicipline to use proper birth control and std protection.

we know sandyallen, we know that we are living in bad times. The only way this world can be fixed is by god changing the hearts of people.

you're very wrong on many levels. Masturbation is defined as touching oneself in one way or another (with fingers, toys, etc) to achieve an orgasm. It isn't called "self sex" by most normal people; at least not people who can tell the difference between sex and masturbation. By religions who view masturbation as wrong, i'm sure it's referred to as a type of sex. But it's just not.

I don't know of any 5 year old girl who accidntally learned to masturbate with a 9 inch dildo; most learn by accidentally rubbing against a stuffed animal or in the bathtub. And they are definately virgins. I personally don't often use a dildo, even after having had a lot of sex. I still just prefer my fingers. This causes a clitoral orgasm; which can be acheived during sex, bu the other thing that actual sex (or g-spot stimulation in another way, by deep fingers or a dildo) can acheive is a vaginal orgasm.



so, there are a lot of kids having sex all by themsleves... Sorry. I just can't view masturbation as sex. Sex involves two people, period.



i totally understand that they aren't, and they obviously aren't following the advice, so they don't apply to the statement "if you use protection, why not?" they are the exceptions. I do think that people need to learn to not have sex until they are more mature.

eiri no 5 year old girl will use a 9 inch dildo! That young you don't have sex. I meant teenagers and on. I don't think any young woman who use a dildo whatsoever is virgin. Sex is a big word and it does involve many forms. Masturbation, intercourse, oral sex are different forms of sex. Masturbation as kids is part of their sexual development and there is nothing wrong with it. If you don't want to think of it as self sex or not i'm not going to fight with ya, it's just a word. Same as fetus called babies. Nobody ask a pregnant woman using the word fetus. But for abortion purposes it is used the word fetus to make them feel less guilty.


Btw eiri, if you want real good masturbation forget fingers, buy a shower massager ;-)

unles you're being molested by a pedophile...



so, once you become a teen, masturbation turns from innocent self-discovery into sex? What?!



i don't know of anyone at all who thinks masturbation couns as sex, except you. In fact, most people I know consider it inferior to any form of sex, including the feeling that having a partner do it for you is better than doing it alone.



i've done that, but I don't have one here. My fingers are pretty dexterous ;)

lol! :)