Re: Exercising the Right to Our Bodies Posted: 05-17-06 14:21pm
draken
wrote:
no sex isn't an option
because its too hard and safe sex isn't as
good.
no sex (intercourse) is very easy. I
don't understand how come people say it is
hard. It is a lie. I wanted to clarify
on intercourse as there is other forms of
sex (oral, masturbation) that don't
include intercourse which are safe and
easy and you will never be pregnant from.
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Fasttricky
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Posted: 05-17-06 14:38pm
The importance of keeping our bodies
healthy from any diesese of painful
procedure is to unfortunately wear a
condom, johnny, rubber whatever you want
to call it.
Some people would protest in saying that
it doesn't feel as good, but it doesn't
feel good to have any kind of std either.
I am not for one instant saying that all
women sleep around because we don't, but
we really need to be careful in this day
and age and be responsible for our
actions.
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diamond splinter
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Posted: 05-17-06 15:01pm
fasttricky
wrote:
the importance of keeping
our bodies healthy from any diesese of
painful procedure is to unfortunately wear
a condom, johnny, rubber whatever you want
to call it.
Some people would protest in saying that
it doesn't feel as good, but it doesn't
feel good to have any kind of std either.
I am not for one instant saying that all
women sleep around because we don't, but
we really need to be careful in this day
and age and be responsible for our
actions.
well said it is good to see another manc
on the board :d
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Re: Unprotected Sex Posted: 05-17-06 15:10pm
fasttricky
wrote:
although everyone can be
entitled to their own opinions, you must
all agree.. Surely that we do have to
think about our bodies and what we put
into them. E.G. Do we really know
how may sexual partners our boyfriends
have had, if they are in perfect sexual
health. I think it would be a good
idea to have std tests done with every new
boyfriend/girlfriend so that we can be
assured of our own sexual health as well
as our partners. Some stds develop at
a later date, we may not even know we have
anything. But this would be in a
perfect world and I don't think this will
catch on!
As well as std's if women do have
abortions it can't be incredibly healthly
to have their uterus go through such a
procedure.
abortions aren't exactly natural, but
giving birth is actually just as damaging
(if not moreso, in certain situations).
Still, it can't be good to have 5 or 6 or
more. Still, women do still get pregnant
after that many, which is why they go on
to have 7 and 8...
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Tylanas
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Posted: 05-17-06 15:11pm
diamond splinter
wrote:
fasttricky
wrote:
the importance of keeping
our bodies healthy from any diesese of
painful procedure is to unfortunately wear
a condom, johnny, rubber whatever you want
to call it.
Some people would protest in saying that
it doesn't feel as good, but it doesn't
feel good to have any kind of std either.
I am not for one instant saying that all
women sleep around because we don't, but
we really need to be careful in this day
and age and be responsible for our
actions.
well said it is good to see another manc
on the board
:d
what's a manc? Manchester?
Edit: ah, yes... I went and looked at one
of fasttricky's posts, and indeed, it was
manchester. Sorry for this waste of space
post! Xd
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Re: Exercising the Right to Our Bodies Posted: 05-17-06 15:14pm
nightangel73
wrote:
draken
wrote:
no sex isn't an option
because its too hard and safe sex isn't as
good.
no sex (intercourse) is very easy. I
don't understand how come people say it is
hard. It is a lie. I wanted to clarify
on intercourse as there is other forms of
sex (oral, masturbation) that don't
include intercourse which are safe and
easy and you will never be pregnant
from.
i want to say that masturbation totally
doesn't count as a form of sex in any way
shape or form, unless it's you touching
your partner's bits and doing it for
them.
As for vaginal sex; once you've had it, it
is very hard not to do it again especially
if you and your partner are in love;
because there is nothing like it. That's
just what it was for me, I can't speak for
others. Dildos don't get the same feel;
and while oral is excellent, there is just
something special and connective about
vaginal sex that can't be replaced. And
if you have good protection, why not do
it?
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Fasttricky
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Sex And More Sex Posted: 05-17-06 15:27pm
I agree that sex is good in fact it is
bloody brilliant. When you are in a
stable relationship it feels like the best
thing in the world.
To say to a woman.. Refrain from sexual
gratification until you are married ...
It is never going to happen.
We can at least take all tye precautions
we can top prevent anything unwanted.
Even if our boyfriend is the most
wonderful man on the planet, it doesn't
mean he has less chance of being a carrier
for any std... My friend who works in
the std clinic always tells the
girls/women who visit that safe sex can be
good sex.
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Fasttricky
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All I Can Say... Posted: 05-17-06 15:38pm
I hope everyone is happy in life and that
whatever decisions in life you make, are
the decisions that you are happy with.
Never let anyone, but yourself make
important decisions that affect your
bodies. Women and their bodies are the
most beautiful in the world (i am not a
lesbian or homophobic or whatever!!) I
think that we owe it to ourselves to
protect, look after and be healthy.
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Fasttricky Posted: 05-17-06 16:01pm
I agree with you in a lot of things that
you just said and I am soooo thankful that
I am not single or messing aroundt this
day and age and neither is my husband!
In my era you would get two shots and it
was gone unless you were too far gone.
Nowadays anyone can have anything and as
you said some things do not show up so
fast and you could have a b/f, g/f s/o
that was so clean about themselves and
still not know that they have std's and
wearing a condom is not always 100% safe
as they break, now adays their are cleaner
hookers then those that you meet otherwise
and their are times that getting married
holds no guarantees either but people will
continue to have sex know matted how much
you preach to them, pre-teens, teens and
those older and they will continue getting
pregnant and having abortions because
their are too many that feel that they
will not get their friend or whatever
pregnant and the females will continue to
say that getting pregnant will not happen
to them. You know it would be great if
all people thought the way that you do but
this is the real world and in the real
world things work differently. Don't get
me wrong, I am not judging you, I am just
making a statement as long as their is
incest, rape abuse, neglect and everything
else ssuch as not wanting children or not
wanting them at that time or having a
medical abortion with reasons their will
be abortion and females do have a right to
their choice as I said before, you are not
living in their shoes, you or I should not
judge them, we do not understand what they
are going through as I have also said
before, I would rather see an abortion
than a baby born and a baby killed or an
abortion do to the fact that the baby will
not make it past birth because not all of
its internal parts can be replaced.
The best to you!
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Re: Exercising the Right to Our Bodies Posted: 05-17-06 21:25pm
eiri
wrote:
i want to say that masturbation totally
doesn't count as a form of sex in any way
shape or form, unless it's you touching
your partner's bits and doing it for
them.
masturbation is defined as to be sex with
yourself. You achieve orgasm same as
with vaginal sex. Eiri think of
masturbating with a 9 inch dildo, I don't
think any woman doing that is much of a
virgin hehe. And there is masturbation
as to givin it to your partner which also
result in orgasm. Same as oral sex. As
long as it result in orgasm it is
considered sex.
eiri
wrote:
and if you have good protection, why not
do it?
right but the problem we are having eiri
is that the teens are not using good
protection and therefore we have the
spread of std's and unwanted pregnancies.
It takes dicipline to use proper birth
control and std protection.
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Re: Fasttricky Posted: 05-17-06 21:47pm
sandyallen
wrote:
i agree with you in a lot of
things that you just said and I am soooo
thankful that I am not single or messing
aroundt this day and age and neither is my
husband! In my era you would get two
shots and it was gone unless you were too
far gone. Nowadays anyone can have
anything and as you said some things do
not show up so fast and you could have a
b/f, g/f s/o that was so clean about
themselves and still not know that they
have std's and wearing a condom is not
always 100% safe as they break, now adays
their are cleaner hookers then those that
you meet otherwise and their are times
that getting married holds no guarantees
either but people will continue to have
sex know matted how much you preach to
them, pre-teens, teens and those older and
they will continue getting pregnant and
having abortions because their are too
many that feel that they will not get
their friend or whatever pregnant and the
females will continue to say that getting
pregnant will not happen to them. You
know it would be great if all people
thought the way that you do but this is
the real world and in the real world
things work differently.
we know sandyallen, we know that we are
living in bad times. The only way this
world can be fixed is by god changing the
hearts of people.
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Re: Exercising the Right to Our Bodies Posted: 05-17-06 23:37pm
nightangel73
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
i want to say that masturbation totally
doesn't count as a form of sex in any way
shape or form, unless it's you touching
your partner's bits and doing it for
them.
masturbation is defined as to be sex with
yourself. You achieve orgasm same as
with vaginal sex. Eiri think of
masturbating with a 9 inch dildo, I don't
think any woman doing that is much of a
virgin hehe.
you're very wrong on many levels.
Masturbation is defined as touching
oneself in one way or another (with
fingers, toys, etc) to achieve an orgasm.
It isn't called "self sex" by most normal
people; at least not people who can tell
the difference between sex and
masturbation. By religions who view
masturbation as wrong, i'm sure it's
referred to as a type of sex. But it's
just not.
I don't know of any 5 year old girl who
accidntally learned to masturbate with a 9
inch dildo; most learn by accidentally
rubbing against a stuffed animal or in the
bathtub. And they are definately virgins.
I personally don't often use a dildo,
even after having had a lot of sex. I
still just prefer my fingers. This causes
a clitoral orgasm; which can be acheived
during sex, bu the other thing that actual
sex (or g-spot stimulation in another way,
by deep fingers or a dildo) can acheive is
a vaginal orgasm.
Quote:
and there is
masturbation as to givin it to your
partner which also result in orgasm.
Same as oral sex. As long as it result
in orgasm it is considered
sex.
so, there are a lot of kids having sex all
by themsleves... Sorry. I just can't
view masturbation as sex. Sex involves
two people, period.
Quote:
eiri
wrote:
and if you have good protection, why not
do it?
right but the problem we are having eiri
is that the teens are not using good
protection and therefore we have the
spread of std's and unwanted pregnancies.
It takes dicipline to use proper birth
control and std
protection.
i totally understand that they aren't, and
they obviously aren't following the
advice, so they don't apply to the
statement "if you use protection, why
not?" they are the exceptions. I do think
that people need to learn to not have sex
until they are more mature.
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Re: Exercising the Right to Our Bodies Posted: 05-18-06 06:08am
eiri
wrote:
you're very wrong on many levels.
Masturbation is defined as touching
oneself in one way or another (with
fingers, toys, etc) to achieve an orgasm.
It isn't called "self sex" by most normal
people; at least not people who can tell
the difference between sex and
masturbation. By religions who view
masturbation as wrong, i'm sure it's
referred to as a type of sex. But it's
just not.
I don't know of any 5 year old girl who
accidntally learned to masturbate with a 9
inch dildo; most learn by accidentally
rubbing against a stuffed animal or in the
bathtub. And they are definately
virgins. I personally don't often use a
dildo, even after having had a lot of sex.
I still just prefer my fingers. This
causes a clitoral orgasm; which can be
acheived during sex, bu the other thing
that actual sex (or g-spot stimulation in
another way, by deep fingers or a dildo)
can acheive is a vaginal orgasm.
So, there are a lot of kids having sex all
by themsleves... Sorry. I just can't
view masturbation as sex. Sex involves
two people, period.
.
eiri no 5 year old girl will use a 9 inch
dildo! That young you don't have sex. I
meant teenagers and on. I don't think any
young woman who use a dildo whatsoever is
virgin. Sex is a big word and it does
involve many forms. Masturbation,
intercourse, oral sex are different forms
of sex. Masturbation as kids is part of
their sexual development and there is
nothing wrong with it. If you don't want
to think of it as self sex or not i'm not
going to fight with ya, it's just a word.
Same as fetus called babies. Nobody ask a
pregnant woman using the word fetus. But
for abortion purposes it is used the word
fetus to make them feel less guilty.
Btw eiri, if you want real good
masturbation forget fingers, buy a shower
massager ;-)
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Re: Exercising the Right to Our Bodies Posted: 05-18-06 06:17am
nightangel73
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
you're very wrong on many levels.
Masturbation is defined as touching
oneself in one way or another (with
fingers, toys, etc) to achieve an orgasm.
It isn't called "self sex" by most
normal people; at least not people who can
tell the difference between sex and
masturbation. By religions who view
masturbation as wrong, i'm sure it's
referred to as a type of sex. But it's
just not.
I don't know of any 5 year old girl who
accidntally learned to masturbate with a 9
inch dildo; most learn by accidentally
rubbing against a stuffed animal or in the
bathtub. And they are definately
virgins. I personally don't often use a
dildo, even after having had a lot of sex.
I still just prefer my fingers. This
causes a clitoral orgasm; which can be
acheived during sex, bu the other thing
that actual sex (or g-spot stimulation in
another way, by deep fingers or a dildo)
can acheive is a vaginal orgasm.
So, there are a lot of kids having sex all
by themsleves... Sorry. I just can't
view masturbation as sex. Sex involves
two people, period.
.
eiri no 5 year old girl will use a 9 inch
dildo! That young you don't have sex.
unles you're being molested by a
pedophile...
Quote:
i meant teenagers
and on. I don't think any young woman
who use a dildo whatsoever is virgin.
Sex is a big word and it does involve many
forms. Masturbation, intercourse, oral
sex are different forms of sex.
Masturbation as kids is part of their
sexual development and there is nothing
wrong with it.
so, once you become a teen, masturbation
turns from innocent self-discovery into
sex? What?!
Quote:
if you don't want
to think of it as self sex or not i'm not
going to fight with ya, it's just a word.
Same as fetus called babies. Nobody ask
a pregnant woman using the word fetus.
But for abortion purposes it is used the
word fetus to make them feel less
guilty.
i don't know of anyone at all who thinks
masturbation couns as sex, except you. In
fact, most people I know consider it
inferior to any form of sex, including the
feeling that having a partner do it for
you is better than doing it alone.
Quote:
btw eiri, if you want real good
masturbation forget fingers, buy a shower
massager ;-)
i've done that, but I don't have one here.
My fingers are pretty dexterous ;)
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Re: Exercising the Right to Our Bodies Posted: 05-18-06 18:07pm
eiri
wrote:
i've done that, but I don't have one here.
My fingers are pretty dexterous
;)
