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expatient

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Wrong Diagnosis - So Often...
Posted: 05-15-06 07:43am

Sijd - the reason for low back pain, scoliosis, lordosis, lumbar/thorax hypermobility, headaches, leg length inequality, knee problems, achilles problems and so many others... Very common problem and yet so poorly understod! :(
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After years of search I finally found one professional who knew how to cure my back pain: to correct my sijd. Before him I met tens of others who did it wrong or didn't know anything at all! I spent thousands of dollars for doctores, physical therapists, pictures, exams, test, ...

My problem was anteriorly rotated left iliac bone (=sijd - sacroiliac joint dysfunction), but all the others were totally lost, or diagnosed it to my right side where the pain was... That is wrong!!

After I got rid of my back pains (and many other problems too connected to sijd) I started to search information about sij dysfunction and to interview patients who have the same problems I did.

This is a common mistake the professionals do:

physical therapy volume 79 · number 12 · december 1999
http://www.Ptjournal.Org/ptjournal/decembe r1999/v79n12p1134.Cfm

research report
measurement of sacroiliac joint dysfunction: a multicenter intertester reliability study
janet k freburger and daniel l riddle

“for example, a patient with symptoms in the region of the right sij, with a right asis lower than the left asis and a right psis higher than the left psis, would have an anteriorly rotated innomimate on the right. Conversely, a patient with symptoms in the region of the left sij, with a right asis lower than the left asis and a right psis higher than the left psis, would be described as having a posteriorly rotated innominate on the left.“

that last sentence is wrong! If right psis is higher it is dislocated ie. In dysfunction regardless where the pain is! But it must not be measured when patient is standing. I have seen patients who have right psis higher when standing and left psis higher when lying. Because iliac rotation effects to the functional length of a leg, psis's must be palpated while lying.

Here is other similar:
physical therapy . Volume 82 . Number 8 . August 2002
evaluation of the presence of sacroiliac joint region dysfunction
using a combination of tests:
a multicenter intertester
http ://www.Udel.Edu/pt/manal/spinecourse/sijla b/riddled.Pdf

reliability study
daniel l riddle, janet k freburger, north american orthopaedic rehabilitation research network*

according to table 3:

1. Standing flexion test: my left sij lifted, so it was hypermobile!
This test alone should give enough evidence that it was left si dysfunction!

2. Prone knee flexion test: I had the pain on right side and right leg was longer, so this test gives the wrong diagnosis to me: posteriorly rotated right iliac. Wrong!

3. Supine long sitting test: again I had the pain on right side and right leg was longer, so this test gives the wrong diagnosis to me: posteriorly rotated right iliac. Wrong!

4. Sitting psis test: this is the worst! I had pain on right side and left psis was higher. According to this test I had posteriorly rotated right iliac. Totally wrong result!

And this is why I had wrong diagnosises and bad treatments for many years. It took 10 years to find a professional who knew how to do it wright! All the other pts and chiros did it wrong like in that paper.

The pain is usually on the other side than the reason. That is where the mistake is made! Left sij dysfunction -> pain on the right side!

This is why the manual treatment is not helping most of the patients... They do it to the wrong side. They try to dislocate the healthy sij!
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expatient

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Posted: 05-16-06 01:18am

My opinion is that there is no such thing as posteriorly rotated iliac. It is (always) a misdiagnose because the pain is very often on the other side than the cause.

If sij is hypermobile it is so because it is dislocated. If psis is higher on the other side it is so because iliac has rotated (dislocated) anteriorly on that side, no matter where the pain is! But it must be checked while patient is lying, not standing!

That is why they say right sij is usually the problem. That is not true! The pain is usually on the right side! But the reason for pain is on the other side. When left sij comes out - the left leg gets shorter - and all the body wight is carried on right side. Thats why it hurts there!

I believe it is so. I have seen and interviewed about 100 patients who have got help same way I did. First some of them got diagnose to wrong side from chiropractors. So those chiros tried to dislocate their healthy si!!
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expatient

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Joined: 24 Nov 2005
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Location: Finland

Posted: 05-24-06 01:17am

I collected few stories from few patients. And many are just like mine... And there are much more those on public forums: sijd patients like I was. I don't know how many, but thousands!

And only like 1% of all sijd patients are on web talking about it, so there are hundred times more of them in real life. And because only 1% of patients have got the right diagnosis, there are again hundred times more of them. That makes millions of people world wide...

Take a look at their stories:
http:// personal.Inet.Fi/koti/faro/selkasivut/othe rs.Html
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acentrella

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Joined: 03 Feb 2005
Posts: 11

Posted: 05-24-06 13:57pm

I suffered from sijd for over 2 years. My si joint was out of whack from straining the surrounding ligaments doing squats with heavy weights. How do you repair ligaments? Prolotherapy, no more, no less.

People - I was misdiagnosed many times, this thread rings so true to me... I'm telling you to do your research on prolotherapy.. Pt does not heal ligaments, ligaments do not heal themselves, they are like plastic garbage bags an osteo once told me, once stretched - thats it.. Prolo forces them to begin the healing process and tighten back up.

Good luck - and save yourself the wasted frustration, learn from those who speak from experience. I'm living a healthy, normal active life again thanks to prolotherapy.

Dont listen to chiropractors!! They do not understand!! These are ligament problems - not alignment issues!! Ligaments are what compose healthy alignment..Treat the ligaments...Not the bones!!!

Anthony
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