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Didier
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Difficulty Taking a Deep Breath
Posted: 05-07-06 14:23pm
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I read with interest the thread titled
"changing symptoms" where dianajj mentions
"difficulty taking a deep breath". I too
had those symptoms for years when I had
hypoglycemia. I underwent cardiac tests
(i was 25 at the time and exercised a lot)
and pulmonary tests but those tests showed
that my lungs and heart were in tiptop
shape so the doctors couldn't explain what
was causing it. I think the doctors
thought it was all in my head. It wasn't
asthma because I get asthma from cats and
it is a totally different sensation. The
doctors gave my asthma inhalers but they
did no good.
The sensation is like you're breathing as
deep as you can but it's never a
satisfying breath and only occasionnally
will you be able to take a deep breath
that is satisfying. Is that what you
experienced dianajj?
I have been having my hypoglycemic
symptoms again as I wasn't watching my
diet (palpitations, optic migraines,
feeling of faintness, etc) and this
sensation of suffocating. When I had the
suffocation symptoms 15 years ago, it was
before the internet became mainstream and
I was never able to find an explanation -
a correlation if you will between this
difficulty breathing and low blood sugar.
I surfed the internet a few days and found
a few studies that link microvascular
angina and hyperinsulinism. Some of the
symptoms of microvascular angina are chest
pain and shortness of breath and I am
thinking maybe this is the connection.
Can anyone enlighten me? Does anyone else
experience this symptom and has anyone
heard of what mecanism comes into play
that would link hypoglycemia and
difficulty breathing?
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Stan
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Posted: 05-07-06 17:55pm
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It used to happen to me. I'd get this
painful feeling that the doctor told me
was my enflamed lungs sticking to the
inside of my ribs and pulling off, which
sounded ridiculous but feasible. I'm not
sure of the mechanism though, but since
many parts of the body shut down when
sugar is low, nothing would surprise me.
It seems the brain cycles through
different things to keep a reserve of
sugar for itself, shutting different parts
of the body almost down in order to keep
them. It would seem then this explains
the cycling of symptoms, because it could
mean the brain is cycling in order to not
damage the areas it shuts down.
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DianaJJ
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Posted: 05-07-06 21:09pm
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Hi,
stan, that is a very good explanation of
why those symptoms occur. Didier, I
couldn't find any answer to why I had the
difficulty breathing either. The doctor
gave me dimatap (a decongestant) and
couldn't find anything wrong with my
lungs. Only years later when I was
diagnosed with hypoglycemia did I make the
connection.
That's exactly the feeling you discribed,
never being able to get a full satisfying
breath. I think it has to do with the
nerves that control the lungs, just as the
palpitations have to do with the nerve
that controls your heartbeat and when your
blood sugar is low the sugar is diverted
from those nerves.
It 's interesting that you mentioned optic
migraines because I have those too
occasionally. It starts with a blind
spot in my visual field and changes to a
jagged pattern that gradually moves off to
the side. Is that what you experience.
The first one I had, I thought it was a
stroke. Very scary. I thought it might
be a side effect of artificial sweetners
(aspartame) so i've given them up and I
haven't had one for a while. Dj
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Stan
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Posted: 05-08-06 08:00am
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I kind of worded it funny, but yeah,
basically I just meant that the brain,
while saving sugar for itself, will cycle
through shutting various parts of itself
and the body down (maybe only somewhat
shut down) in order to save sugar while
not damaging the body. Smart brain.
The lung thing is an early symptoms, I
remember getting this back in the day when
all I was was tired during the day and
sometimes a bit exciteable.
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tygrbabi
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Posted: 05-08-06 10:58am
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I too had difficulty breathing -- my first
episode was in august. My doctor told me
I had asthmatic bronchitis. Even gave me
an inhaler but it didn't help. I never
made the corrolation until I came to this
site. Thanks, stan.
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Raye
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Posted: 05-15-06 20:16pm
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| Quote: |
tr> | the sensation is
like you're breathing as deep as you can
but it's never a satisfying breath and
only occasionnally will you be able to
take a deep breath that is
satisfying |
i get exactly that, I got that ever since
I was a little kid. I have asthma, but it
feels different to asthma and I got this
feeling way before I was diagnosed with
asthma (i first noticed it when I was
betwen the ages of 5-7 and I got diagnosed
with asthma at 11 -12). I dont know if im
hypoglycemic or not but I think I may be
i have a little question for anyone who
wants to answer
when I was 5-7, I couldnt take deep
breaths like I said, but also sometimes in
the morning after I woke up and tried to
go downstairs ide be really shaky and
weak, it got so bad that one day I
actually couldnt walk. I got diagnosed
with anemia shortly after. It may just
have been anemia, but since I got shaky
and not able to take a deep breath, im
wonderin if it was perhaps an early sign
of hypo aswell. Anyone know?
Thanx.
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Stan
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Posted: 05-15-06 20:27pm
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It could be, yes. Most of us, as far as
I know, have had symptoms we can recall
stretching back way in our youth.
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Raye
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Posted: 05-15-06 20:34pm
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| stan stepanic
wrote: | | it could be, yes. Most of
us, as far as I know, have had symptoms we
can recall stretching back way in our
youth. |
:) thanks. The more I find out about
hypoglycemia, the more I suspect I have
it.
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SPZVORAK2
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Posted: 06-08-06 13:40pm
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I know exactly what you mean! I thought
it was strange, but definitely the worst
of my problems. It's not a feeling of
constriction, I can fill my lungs up, but
I sometimes I don't get the sensation that
they are actually full, there isn't that
satisfying rush of oxygen that I normally
get.
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Didier
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Posted: 06-08-06 13:47pm
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Spzvorak2,
do you still experience that shortness of
breath? How long have you had it for?
And are you treating your hypoglycemia
with the low carb diet that stan
recommends?
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Stan
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Posted: 06-08-06 15:31pm
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Here's another symptom that I don't know
how to categorize, this is only one of the
forms it takes. I'm not sure why, but
many hypoglycemics will get odd body
sensations where something they're doing
(even something as basic as breathing)
will feel like it's not working properly,
even though it is. I've had it happen
where I feel like my tongue isn't working
properly and will sit there pressing it
against the roof of my mouth. Weird.
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BDwinsAlt
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Posted: 06-08-06 18:52pm
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I used to have panic attacks (or so they
said). I felt like I wasn't getting
hardly any air in. That's gone now, but
since i'm still growing sometimes I am
about to sneeze and I take a deep breath
and my chest must be too small or
something because all of the sudden I
start hurting and all the air just comes
right out. I couldn't even sneeze. I
will hopefully grow out of it. I've
grown a little since then and I haven't
had anything like that happen in a while.
Every now and then I do have a shortness
of breathe. My grandmother has asthma.
Note: if you think you have hypoglycemia
please get checked.
Take a day off work and get a "glucose
tolerance test". They drawn blood for 5
hours. You can't eat from 10 pm the
night before until the test is done.
For me I didn't eat from 9pm until 3:45pm
the next day. I had the drink they made
you drink too see how your blood sugar
levels adjust. Tastes kinda like
gatorade but sweeter.
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Stan
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Posted: 06-08-06 19:46pm
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The test helps, but people should also
know it's not entirely necessary. It
will only verify for certain you have it
and give you paperwork to back it up.
Otherwise, if you're afraid of crashing
after the test hardcore, you can simply
try the diet and if you notice no changes
at all it's doubtful you have it. Saves
money too.
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BDwinsAlt
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Posted: 06-08-06 21:37pm
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23 dollars wasn't really that bad. But
yea, try the diet first. If you notice
almost immediate results then stick with
it. It's best to be on the diet anyways.
You really don't need all those simple
sugars.
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Stan
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Posted: 06-09-06 09:18am
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23?!!! Man, my insurance payment alone
was like 75 for that test.
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BDwinsAlt
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Posted: 06-09-06 10:00am
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Wow! I went to a place where they do
mainly drug testing. They drew blood 6
times. I must have great insurance. In
alabama they don't charge you retarded
prices as much.
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lauraparis22
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Hypothyroidism And Difficulty Taking Deep Breath
Posted: 07-02-07 14:35pm
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I, too, am on a hunt to find out why -
even when running - I have to bend over
like an Olympic racer to get air into all
quadrants of my lungs. I cannot seem to
get or process enough air just standing
up.
I have been diagnosed hypothyroid which
makes me very tired all the time without
supplemental hormone.
There are some known limitations in lungs
and diaphragm in hypothyroids but I was
hoping this was caused by something I
could reverse!!
People stop me on the track and ask me if
I'm ok because I make so much noise,
trying to get enough air. 
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shamrock32714
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Hypoglycemia
Posted: 12-13-07 10:42am
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 I just spent most
of the night sitting up with my teenager
and when I typed in her symptoms, it took
me to this posting site. For the past
year she has been experiencing a funny
sort of sound, like a rattling or shaking,
when she took breaths (not the rattling
like with bronchitis, totally different,
almost like shuddering). It doesn't
happen all the time. It can occur during
a quite car ride and it can happen after a
strenuous dance workout. Late last night
however, she came and got me because she
was really scared! She could not get a
deep enough breath and she had a pain in
the front of her chest, near her
breastbone, under the collar bone, front
and center. Her legs felt weak, she
described them "like jello". She felt
dizzy. She thought she might black out,
like when she had her ears pierced. This
was all getting scary for her. I tried
relaxation breathing, gave her peanut
butter, honey, & water. She tried to
eat, but felt she could not hold it down.
It took almost two hours for her to regain
herself and feel calm. I remembered when
she had her ears pierced (she was 13 at
the time), everything went black and I
took from the kiosk to a table, she could
barely walk, she put her head down on the
table. Thinking that she must have either
had a drop in sugars, or she was faint
from the idea of the piercing, I bought
her an Orange Julius, which seemed to do
the trick after about 20 minutes. I
vaguely remember having similar "deep
breathing" problems in my teen years, but
they have long since gone away. Is
hypoglycemia something that can disappear
as you grow older? After reading your
posting forum it seems as though
hypoglycemia may be part (or all) of the
answer. If anyone has any "food" for
thought on my daughter's experience,
please reply. Thanks!
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Stan
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Posted: 12-13-07 11:32am
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She wouldn't just be having breathing
problems, and the piercing thing would be
totally unrelated. There is no reason why
getting an ear pierced would cause sugar
to drop. It sounds like she's getting
herself worried, but does she have any
other symptoms?
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shamrock32714
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Breathing
Posted: 12-13-07 13:39pm
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She had already been in bed for almost an
hour last night when she came to me and
said she couldn't catch her breath. She
felt she couldn't get a deep enough
breath. She said she felt lightheaded.
Even when laying down her legs felt funny,
weak. She felt worse laying down. Over
the past few months, she has developed a
"clicking" sound when she breathes. I can
hear it, for instance, when we are in the
car, I am driving, she is sitting in the
passenger seat up front, I hear the
"clicking". It is not coming from her
nasal area, it is coming from her chest
and/or throat. I was doing some more
research and found some information on
"rales" but am not sure if that is
something that can be heard audibly.
Rales seems to be deeper in the lungs. It
is definitely not wheezing. And, it does
not happen constantly all day long. It
can happen when she is relaxing just as
easy as it can happen when she has
finished dancing for nearly 2 hours. So,
physical activity does not seem to be a
major factor.
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