I think it is a good idea; as stated on the previous topic. I also believe that women popping out 7, 8, 9 or more children is also wrong - not so much if they can actually care for them, but definately so if they are just sucking up welfare and child support.

There is a happy medium!!

I pretty much agree with what .Eiri said!
If they want to continue having several abortions they should meet special counselor requirements have special education of b/c methods and should be able to pay for a certain% of them or show just cause, as I have stated before, I am pro-choice but I have my special limits of what choice is. Just like having a baby, that is great as long as the person or persons are resposible enough.

Where do we draw the line on women killing their offspring in the name of a better lifestyle or as a prevention to stretch marks?

Where do we draw the line on women aborting their offspring for the sins of the father?

Where do we draw the line on women aborting to save their jobs?

Where do we draw the line on women aborting just because they can?

here we go insulting again, yes I am pro choice just not for reptitive amounts of abortions, you'd think you'd learn by your second one. Why is it fair for a woman who wants an abortion to have to wait in line for the other idiots who have had one before? Don't you think that alowing full complaint free chioce will make some one belive, "well I can just abort it" what if everyone thought that way, what if a mother wanted an abortion for the first time and the waiting list was so full that she'd be past the point when a doctor won't abort her baby. That's what will happen in your idealism. What you think people aren't greedy, what are you smoking?

Draken you are not pro choice otherwise you would be for every choice and your not you wish to limit how many pregnancies a woman has as well as how many abortions a woman has .

How is that pro choice?

Fine then, i'm caught in the middle. I dont think its right to be able to have so many abortions but i'm for choosing whether she wants or does not want the child, if you don't want a child, and have an abortion how much more carful are you not to concieve again? I don't think its right to be able to cover your ass that many times. At the very least it should be harder and harder to have an abortion done, of course in my way the woman would get it done somewhere else with a bicycle spoke, so there's no way to prevent it. Just the ability to have an abortion done as many time as the mother wishes will probably effect younger teens and thier sex patterns. What if your daighter said she was pregnant and she was 12 and she simply said no big deal I can just get an abortion? What then? Is it still ok if she does it for the fourth time? Wouldn't you want to show her what she was doing is wrong? But how? Giving people chances is ok but too many chances results in people taking advantage of those chances, an if that happens with abortion, we are in big trouble

i am not pro choice and neither is my daughter if she got pregnant there would be no abortion.

Ok then. So you're smacking me around with a stick why now?

sorry i'm not trying to smack you around just to establish your position I know you say pro choice but you come across pro life.

that's actually a very uneducated view about women having multiple abortions. A friend of mine has had three and each circumstance was totally different and it wasn't about her not "having learnt her lesson". Each abortion needs to be considered in it's individual circumstance. I agree that it's wrong to just keep aborting because you cannot be bothered to use contraception or just because you're not thinking before you repeatedly get pregnant but i'd never judge someone for having had more than one abortion the same way I wouldn't judge anyone who'd had one abortion. There needs to be better counselling pre/post abortion (and better sex ed) imo.

i can understand what you're saying, why should someone having abortion#1 have to wait longer because of someone having their #nth but in reality (at least here) it's widley available and privately you will be seen and have the rprocedure within around one week. Almost all abortions here are carried out well before the "cut off" for social abortions (over 80% before 13weeks and half of all before 10weeks - time limit being 24weeks)

that's good. Unfortunately my mum is pro-life and i'm pro-choice

i know that feeling my mum is very pro abort (not to be confused with pro choice)

she is pro abort because if she hadn't needed ny fathers permision at the time she would have aborted .

She is pro abort because she beleives that teenage pregnancies should be forcefully aborted

tell me does she sound pro choice to you?

lol that is my daughter's choice .

lol I didn't disown my mother we now have a very fulfilling relationship thank you.

Also my daughter knows that there will never be a time or circumstance that I would disown her be disapointed in her maybe disown her never.

I don't even know why I am doing you the courtesy of explaining anything about my family life now please do not respond to me there is nothing in my response to you to debate let's just leave it @ that yeah?

Just ignore her completely you don't have to take that crap from anyone.

To answer the question posed in the original topic, I don't tihnk any line needs to be drawn when it comes to a woman making a decision about her body. If she has one abortion, or eight or more, that is entirely her choice. No one has the right to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her own body, even though many of the fundie pro-life extremists like to think otherwise.

Honestly, I think abortions should be made easier to obtain, without the pro-life propaganda being forced in the patients' faces. I think if a woman wants to abort an unwanted child, then there is no reason for doing so that is better or worse than another. Some women don't want to give birth out of fear they won't be able to give their kids up, while some just don't want to be pregnant, or some know they can't afford kids, and it should be left up to the woman to decide what will become of the fetus.

but you're against it if she chooses to keep them all then? This goes either way. I just think that the standards for having sex younger and younger will go away if some kind of limit isn't there. It's not really for the womans sake in my eyes, its for us as a society. I just don't want to see 12 year olds getting abortions super easily, because then its ok to get pregnant and not worry about it because that back up is always there, plus with that kind of a market, who knows, how long on average does it take to get you scheduled for an operation for a non truly needed thing, it took 3 months for me to get one for my leg repair. Cambion, isn't there a limit on the time a woman can choose to have an abortion? What if you needed one and the closest spot was 5 months away? You're screwed right? If that many poeple come to use abortions like that many women won't be able to have them done. Can you understand what I mean?

I'm getting both views which is good. I think my way is punishing the people who don't learn from thier mistakes after a few times by having the child because she is denied the abortion. That's not pro choice nor is it pro life, but not neccisarily anti choice either. Just a compromise I suppose of all three. I'm looking at it from a psychological point of view where if the action outcome is favorable the response to the causing action is more apt to occur again. So people will take advantage of abortion clinics to the extremes (in theory). It should be the womans right to choose, as long as that choice is not abused. Its the pro choices mentality that the woman can destroy any fetus any time that angers pro life off. To them, its a slaughter, a needless one. I just view the whole thing as a potential accident waiting to happen. I could be wrong but if I had a daughter and her demeanor about pregnancy was a oh well one, i'd be worried, it should be scary, fear keeps us from doing dumb stuff, taking away that fear will just encourage your kids to have sex more because there is not a problem anymore.