Hi! I've got it, too. I hope to hear from other folks out their...I'm on a desperate hunt to end this. Their HAS to be an answer. I'm now at my wits end, and have started mailing every Dr. that has written a paper, or even mentions the word palinopsia or persistence of vision. If there are others out there...let's band together and become a force to be reckoned with. I'm on the search for a Dr. that's willing to take this on...If I find one, I'll let them know there might be more of us coming.
Persistent palinopsia started for me suddenly last November when I started seeing trails behind moving objects. To see what I see, set your mouse settings to "display pointer trails.: I see it always. Nothing seems to make it better or worse. It made me a bit queasy at first. Now it is my constant companion. I could learn to live with it, but....
By February, 2007, I suddenly developed severe photophobia with intense eye pain...which invariably leads to a killer ache above my brow. It has been with me daily, ever since. It's not brightness, but light change which hurts me. I find bright sunny days and fluorescent lighting only mildly painful, while a single low light...even a nightlight...will send me screaming. It feels as if I have sprained the muscles responsible for constricting my pupil. Immediately after being exposed to a change in light, I will feel a cramp in my eye. The cramp is most severe in the eye that is closest to the light source. The headache is always over the affected eye/eyes. One thing of interest I found by accident...the pain is relieved by having my eyes dilated. It seems that removing my eyes ability to adjust to light relieves the pain.
I've been checked by a neurologist....who sent me to a sleep specialist, and an ophthalmologist...who sent me to a neuro-ophthalmologist...who sent me to a different neurologist...who sent me to a retina specialist...who sent me back to the neurologist...who has just sent me to an immunologist and an endocrinologist. I wonder who they'll send me to?
I've had 3 eye exams, an MRI, EEG, and an overnight sleep study, all with normal findings. I've used LSD 3 times....in the 80's....If that's it, it sure took it's own sweet time making me pay for my fun.
I started having mild tracers funny light flickers mainly at night in in the morning if I keep my eyes straight forward it is not as bad I used lsd a few times in the 80's as well I just learned that I have a bulging disk in my neck don't know if that has anything to do with it I just had a ct scan and a crap load of blood work done they seen to think it is fluid behind my ears lmao I think this may be a nerve problem please keep updating on any news I am going to try some whisky therapy tonight let you know lol good luck
I recently (about 2 months ago) noticed a tracer image in the dark... I was shutting my cell phone after a bit of texting, then all off a sudden, about a quarter of a second later, a perfectly clear copy of the front screen followed its path.. it wasn't the normal tracer or blurring effect like the mouse tail, it was just one image that followed the same path as the original. it startled me so i played around with it, I would spin my cell phone in circles and there would be this other cellphone light following it around, always about a quarter second behind... if the light is too bright I don't see this so it doesn't ever bother me, i hope it doesn't get worse though. is that normal or is it just that I never noticed this really obvious thing? could someone with normal vision do a little experiment for me? turn off all the lights and sit in a nearly black room, hold your cellphone and make fairly slow large circles in the air in front of you. notice anything like what I am talking about? I'll keep an eye on this thread, thank you
I have been seeing tracers similar to how you describe them for a few years now (I'm 29 and no drugs involved) and have finally decided to look into it on the internet and came across you post. You have been dealing with these for a long time, any new developments or negative health effects you've noticed?
Also, you may have already ran across this in your search but it is the only non drug related stuff i was able to find for tracers so far.
Even so, if you look at the section on the neural pathway damage, I suppose its possible the high percentage of people who have used LSD and are experiencing tracers that maybe they are related through the effects of LSD damaging neural pathways. Who knows though... I'm definitely not a doctor.
I have had tracers for many a year. It started with LSD abuse in my teens but seams to be getting worst. I have panic attacks and extreme anxiety. The tracers seam to be worst when I have had a bad nights sleep. I wonder, has everyone with this problem used LSD in the past?
Or can this be totally natural due to stress and anxiety?
I have them and have never done LSD. I just turned 29 and it just appeared one night in the shower. I got home from work, got in the shower, and within a couple minutes it was multi-colored tracer trails following not just items in motion but items of a different degree of lighting. If I moved my body the subsequest movement of all lit objects produced them. Its not a constant, they come and go and its been perhaps 25-30 times in total, so IDK if its the same thing or not?
i honestly never ever used drugs before.. so i don't think it's just related to using drugs, i don't know what it's from. But i do have anxiety very bad.. But it hasn't gotten worse or hasn't gotten better(the eye thing) it's still the same.. I've learned to live with it
My vision has taken a strange turn. It is not necessarily bright tracers, however if I stare at a laptop screen for a minute and then look away. I will see some light and dark lines associated with what was on the screen for a full 30 seconds later.
A few years ago, this would not have lasted for more than a second or two.
With respect to the tracers, when I do not sleep very much and take a RedBull or Rockstar (Taurine). I get tracers at night when I leave the office.
It seems to be partially related to either the Taurine or the sleep deprivation or both. Funny enough, when I was put under for a knee operation and woke up in recovery is when I have felt the most rested in years.
I started having tracers about 2 weeks ago. I started noticing it in evening - and it freaked me out to no end. I have never done drugs. I have suffered with Migraine with Aura for many years - with the Migraine's being very minor. About 6 months ago I developed strange visual disturbances such as dimmings, flickering of white walls and some glimpses of objects moving. I am also suffer from panic attacks on occassion. The tracers and tails are very bad upon awakening, and farily bad in the evening. My neurologist says it is all migraine related.
so just wanted to check in with all the vision problems has anyone gotten any info on to what this is from?? Mine hasn't gotten worse or better.. still.. and i see it clearly at nite but in the day when it's bright i still see it.. not a white tracers but it's there..
I am finally getting some answers. I saw an Opto Neuro at the University of Michigan. I began to have ghosting images and partial-double vision, along with my former symptoms. He beleives it is actually due to my corneas, and tells me it is not Migraine related. I have an appt with the Cornea Clinic at U of M on Thursday. I am hoping to get some answers at that time!
Did you ever find out what this is? I am a non drug user with the same exact symptoms but my corneas were mapped and judged normal they could never find a cause so I just live with it although i I dont drive anymore. IF anyone has info email me
I Must say that i'm shocked at how many people are out there that have this problem. I have suffered from this issue for about 10 years now. I had always assumed that it stemmed from LSD use (the whole 2 times I tried it) when I was 16. After the 2nd time I tried it I had the ability (or disability) to still see "tracers" and make walls and certain backgrounds seem to move. Years went by with nothing seeming to change or get worse, in fact I pretty much forgot about it . When I was about 24 or 25 I was blessed with a full scale panic attack. I was literally just sitting in a chair and up i popped and was freaking out. I couldn't sleep for 2 days straight. Over the next year I was a train wreck. It seemed as though it was all I could do to fight off another huge panic attack. I then didn't have to try to see tracers. It was way more noticeable at night but I had somehow gained the ability to see it with bright objects in broad daylight. Throughout the years it has gotten progressively worse. I am 34 now and I have taught myself composure and how to deal with anxiety but, My vision is out of control. I can look at an object and not only see a ghostly tracer but I also see what I would call a negative of that object when I close my eyes which lasts for 3-4 seconds . Certain programs on TV when panning any direction my eyes can't see to focus on or the screen seems to be jumpy. I hate looking at checkered flooring!!! I have had MRI's and gone to eye drs etc..
I have to say that I thought I was the only person in the world who has this problem. I guess I was wrong. I will continue to search for answers and post any that I may find here...
I have had the same thing for the past two years. It started with cars that would go by there would be a trail behind them. I can wave my hand and see a slight image of it follow. Then it started with people walking by. It seems to be getting worse. I see the tracer of the cellphone day or night. Sometimes I can even see tracers in the dark when I wave my hand in front of my face. I figured it has to be something in the brain, but I do not have insurance to go to the doctor. Got to admit it is a little frightening to think that you may be going blind and you cant even see a doctor about it. I guess it is a little comforting to know that I am not the only one.
To the people on here claiming prior LSD use and fearing for the worse. What you may have is HPPD (halucinagenic Persisting Perseption Disorder) I am on here trying desperately to prove to myself that my recent eye problems (tracers etc)are not HPPD related as it had been nearly a year since I did any. Unfortunately I recently went on Citalopram for Anxiety and it causes hallucinations (I know this now) and since coming off the citalopram I've been left with Trails and Aura's. I'm terrified I have done this to myself with LSD use in the past. However most HPPD occours immediately after the drug use and I havnt done any hallucinogens in 8 months or so. I've been off citalopram for 2 weeks or so now after only being on it for 6 weeks as the visuals gave me worse anxiety than I had originally but the visual effects wont go away! Im scared as hell and am hoping it doesnt get any worse.
Sorry all but those that have not done any or more thatn a time or 2 of LSD really need answers. I have been having the same tracers mainly at night for several months now. It is a big problem when I drive. It is a big change and it is a little scary. My Dr said migrains without even an exam. The meds for that changed nothing. I guess I need to see an eye doc. But there has to be answers out there about this to at least prepare me if there is something serious going on. I'm sorry that the LSD users are having the same probs I would say hope it is only a residual effect from that and not someting worse. Please help. I need to know some pos reasons for this.
I tried LSD when i was 18 at a festival and have regretted the day ever since because i noticed the problem immediately after. I have had to live with this problem for 10 years and am praying a dr will discover a cure for this.