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Moo I don't understand what is your problem. I mean we are real people and what she reads here is what people will tell her in the real world. She should know everything, she should know what awaits for her, how people will think about her etc, how she may feel etc..I'm actually saying in the forum, you should think of the number of people emailing her. I'm sorry if I dissapointed in the forum but what this lady is going to do aborting a baby at 15 weeks is awful and no way in the world I could reinforce (if this what you call support) her decision on doing such a brutal thing.

If you cannot support/reinforce her decision then don't post there. It's her decision and hers alone, she doesn't need to be told what pro-life people will think of her afterwards because, believe it or not, it's not often you encounter those opinions in 'real' life.
My 'problem' is that i've been in the position where I needed support and I remember how confusing it is without people adding propaganda into their "support" - it's a ****ing joke. If she asked for peoples opinions on abortion at 15weeks then fine, call her names, give your opinion but she asked for support and information about procedure (which doesn't include things such as "chopping up your baby ")
people are provided with information about the procedure before the termination, it's a legal requirement that you understand the nature of it. She's clearly looking for information so she's not going into it blindly and she is questioning it and appears to be looking at all aspects so I don't see why there's this need to prevent her from making her own decision


have you had an abortion? Do you know anyone who's had a late term abortion? Do you personally know what "awaits" you after a termination? Are you basing this on anything other than your opinion?

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I don't want anything 'kept quiet', I believe in informed choice. Telling her that her baby will be crushed/ripped apart etc... Though is not informing her - it's using emotionally manipulative language to attempt to persuade her to not abort. I think she sounds unsure and have tried to offer advice as best I can regarding either decision she makes.

Show her pictures if you must but she didn't ask to see what a fetus (older than the gestation she is at) looks like, she was asking about procedure. My actual ****ing problem is people mentioning "baby killer" in the support forum, that's what annoyed me, that's what made me start this thread. If you cannot support her objectively then why post?


i don't care whether or not she sees those pictures, it's not my choice. I care that things were posted in a support forum that are clearly not supportive. It's her decision, it doesn't affect me either way so I offered my objective support.
Non of this is about me, it's about people being unable to leave their agenda (and note, I didn't say this was one sided) behind when offering 'support'.

Moo, this lady expressed in her first post "she doesn't know what to do". This means she wants feedback not only on the procedure but on what to do. She is definetly unsure and she did not went there for people to just tell her go ahead to abort if that's what you want she is asking "what to do". I did not even said her anything wrong, I simply asked her what difference does it make being suctioned to death than to be chopped into pieces? She should actually see a video of how this suctioning procedure so she has a clear idea if that is what she wants.

Whatever she decides moo it's not going to affect me. God is going to judge me for what I have done not for anybody else. I feel sorry for the little angel and for her because she doesn't seem to be so sure of what she is going to do.

Why call it a baby when it's actually a fetus then?
Why not desibe it using the corect medical terms (i.E d&e fo te getin she was asking)?
That's not "sugar coating it", it's describing the procedure without an agenda.

She said she was unsure, did you need to mention the words "baby killer" in your response or asking why she differentiated between procedures (in vulgar wording)?
The fact is, no-one could tell her either way, just offer her links to resources for either decision she made (and the tone of her post did suggest that she wanted people to reinforce her decision to abort - something that no-one actually did)


have you watched videos of surgery you've had prior to it? I certainly haven't and wouldn't want to - abortion or otherwise. No surgery looks pleasant, it's not a reason to now go ahead with it if you need/want it.

i feel sorry for her, having to make this decision.

And clearly admin thought you said something inappropriate as it was edited/removed.

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this is a 15 week old fetus. In all honesty moo, does it looks like a baby?

I must concur with moo - the abortion forum is for women who are seeking support for a decision they made, one they are going to make, or one they are contemplating. They don't need a bunch of freaking fetus-humping, woman-hating fundies telling them "omg dun kill your baybeeee cuz its a precious myrakul of god and it will make everything good and u is evill 4 wantin 2 kill yer chyuld". I see nothing wrong with explaining the procedure or showing these women pictures of fetuses - it's what will be happening, so it's best that the women are informed. However, it ruffled my feathers when people will post pictures of stillborn fetuses to try and make women feel guilty.



i agree. I watched a video of an abortion a while back, and just by the language that was used, I could tell it was a pro-life fundie "save the babies" type of video. "torn", "crushed", and "ripped" will pluck the heart strings of many women when they are spoken in terms of a fetus. A lot of women are not phased by this, but people spout out such language to try and talk women out of their decisions. Sadly, many of these women allow themselves to be led away from their original decision and regret not following through with it.

This is off-topic, but the fetus in nightangel's picture looks like it has an overbite. Yummy..