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Untimely Blessings

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Posted: 02-03-04 09:48am

Sara that was a perfect example!!

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jessechaseme

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Posted: 02-03-04 15:48pm

I've got an idea....How 'bout we take a fetus and a 2 or 3 year old and ask it to say the word "mommy". In your wise opinion, who do you think has a better chance of getting it out? The fetus or the 2 or 3 year old child? Next, maybe we could get a couple of babies and a few fetuses together and have a two legged race... Who do you think would win that one? Considering a fetus doesn't have legs, i'm going to bet on the baby.

Of course a baby can't support itself without a mother, no one is debating that. However, a fetus is not a baby....Please don't resort to slippery slope, right winged theories in order to back up your claims. I invite you to really think things out before you try to debate your argument. It makes you sound foolish and close minded.

If you don't want to have an abortion, don't have one. Stop judging, condemning and throwing the bible at people who do.
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allusivepond

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Posted: 02-03-04 16:39pm

I dont think thats wot any of the women on this forum have done, they havent really condemned anyone or thrown their biblles at them, ppl in this forum may have put their views thru.

Erica wot u r stating as an arguement is a totally riduculous one u cant compare the life of "fetus" to a "child"they are incomparable it would be like comparing my educational qualities to ur own and two u r also stating ur opinion and forcing ur anti abortion views on ppl.

When ppl enter this forum to make a post they have to know that it is a highly controversial issue, and like any arguement there is two sides to every story, perhaps ppl need to be more understanding rather than either being pro or against. As I have already stated in other posts no one really knows the circumstances around another's life and it is wrong to judge and say we do, we are all suppose to be friends here and the main job of a friend is to not judge. Im not pro or anti I believe the choice is an individual and not to be used as a form of birth control or because u make a mistake, if ur not using protection then of course ur either trying to get pregnant or ur going to end up pregnant.

From someone who cant wait to have a jelly bean all of their own
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jessechaseme

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Posted: 02-04-04 16:22pm

First off, i'm jesse, not erica. And my points are well made.

Secondly, it's what and not wot. Just fyi

aren't we all cramming opinions into this medical forum? I've seen so many anti abortion posts under the abortion question forum that it makes me sick. People telling each other they are going to hell. People calling each other baby killers. And people being down right judgemental making stupid claims about morality. I am stating another side of the coin.... Sorry but I do not agree with your anti-abortion claims. I think forcing this issue is oppressive. So, i'm hear to say no abortion is not wrong.

If anyone would like support from me on this topic feel free to email or post. I'll be watching.
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allusivepond

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Posted: 02-04-04 20:35pm

Sorry for getting u confused and im also not anti abortion I agree that some women do it and others dont and I dont disagree with u being all for abortion.

What I do disagree with is ur riduculous arguement comparing a "fetus" and a "child" is riduculous they are two totally different stages of life and the fact that u would compare killing a fetus and killing a three year old is riduculous think about ur arguement im sure u can come up with something a little more substantial and is acutally a topic for debate instead of this stupid notion of urs, if u want ppl to listen give them something to listen to

from someone who cant wait to have a jelly bean all of their own
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jessechaseme

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Posted: 02-05-04 13:13pm

You hit the nail on the head. A baby and a fetus are two different things. That's exactly my point. That's why I get upset when people jump to conclusions saying you might as well go kill babies when you decide to abort. I said nothing about killing three year olds. Someone else slipped into that uneducated ramble a few posts back. I simply said there is no comparison between a fetus and a three year old as a fetus is a fetus and a baby is a baby. I think people are misusing words on this forum. I'm simply pointing that out. It's really nothing to debate. That's the beauty of science.
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insurancegirl

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Posted: 02-05-04 16:43pm

My son, 4yrs old, grew in me, as he does now (just outside me). And yet at 4...4 yrs after being a fetus...He still could not take care of himself. He can't make his own meals now and won't be able to for a while, he can't do any of the things you listed for a fetus to do. And at 4 mo old, he was a beautiful baby boy, just as he was at 4 mo into my pregnancy. They eat, breath, and grow while in you!

Jennifer Laughing
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allusivepond

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Posted: 02-09-04 05:52am

I dont even think we should bother responding 2 her posts she is ignorant, closed minded and foolish not to mention uneducated she obviously has a medical degree to be preaching to women who are a few years older than her and who have children and who are in actual stable relationships and live in reality which she obviously knows nothing about.

From someone who cant wait to have a jelly bean all of their own
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jessechaseme

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Posted: 02-09-04 13:57pm

You're cute when you're angry. Wink
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Princess33100

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Posted: 02-09-04 15:04pm

Ok I don't agree with abortions I think that a child should have a chance a have a life and if you don't want a child don't spead your legs are get on birth control are tell your partner to where a condom. No kids deserves not to have a life.
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Mystery23

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Posted: 08-02-06 07:28am

Hi ultimate blessing

i totally agree with you me to is an anti-abortionist.
It may be hard but I would never go on an kill my baby.
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Mystery23

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Posted: 08-02-06 07:57am

That's why a woman should talk her problem through with a counsellor before just having an abortion.
I hate people who use any excuse to have abortion.
I know someone who went to see someone twice in the hospital before she had an abortion but it was a late one. It was so sick that she have to push the baby out.
Abortions are wrong and sick because woman who do it again and again just disgust me.
There are many woman who fall pregnant with those circumstance that those woman have there babies.
I do think you get pregnant you have the baby.
It's so hurtful to those who cant have kids and people who can get pregnant like getting rid of the baby like it rubbish. The heartbeat its living thing to me.
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Mystery23

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Posted: 08-02-06 08:04am

Jessechaseme

you one of this woman that use abortion as contraception right well stop spreading your legs and falling and expection the doc to get rid of the babies for you. You have no heart and there woman out there who don't have kids and desperately wish they could have them.
Or someone who keeps miscarrying. You sick and twisted and nasty to me a baby is baby its inside you. Why get rid of it.
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Tazzy D

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Posted: 08-02-06 08:58am

Hello and welcome. I just thought that I would let you know that this thread is very old. And most of these people dont even post here anymore
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sandyallen

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Posted: 08-02-06 19:25pm

I realize this post is old I miscarried twice and I was very sad, hurt when it happened, I had no control of that just like when I had two medical necessary abortions, they were not progressing inside of me, one when I was kicked did not even look like a fetus and the other one, you just knew would never be okay. I agree with the dr on both of those calls but the two that did fortunately did survive were perfect and are now grown and are on their own and doing great and the dr felt I would never be able to produce a normal child but I got lucky. Sometimes m/c and abortionss hurt not only physically but mentally but they are sometimes necessary!
If it discusts you that is too bad but their are times that things happen beyond our control and it is not about quantity it is about quality. Sure if you have a special child or a down syndrme's child that is okay in my book as they are very loving but to have one that is passing on that will not develop that will have an iud instead of a brain among other problems, no thanks, that is why I feel it is up to the mother aand sometimes the father and the dr has a right to put his two cents in.
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